New hunting rifle.....and a scope question.
 

I have had a rifle and a scope sitting around for months, and have literally had no time to set it up. But with whitetail season approaching, I finally got the rings on and took it to the range today (Kenmore, WA).

Weatherby Vanguard .30-06
Burris Fullfield II 3x-9x with Ballistic Plex reticle.
Weatherby rings.

Damn accurate gun given how cheap it is. Kicks like a mule with 165 grain Remington Corelocks. The light weight will be nice to carry in the woods, but it tough on the shoulder at the range.

Pretty happy. Didn't bother to bore sight it. Started at 100 yards, 3 shots, and with the kind of help of one of the old fellas at the range, I had it on the paper. 10 shots and I was driving tacks.

The question. I used loctite blue attaching the bases to the gun, but not when securing the top of the rings. Should I? If the answer is yes, how? You need to the work the screws down evenly, won't the loctite start to setup?

I'm thinking it is probably not needed given that gun will probably be fired less than 100 times in the next 20 years.

PS : This year, I'm taking a permanant marker and writing, "From On-Ramp with love..." on all my bullets :p

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No locktite on any of mine. Get your grain #'s down to about 140 and you'll see faster and flatter projectiles. At least that's been my experience.

Honestly, in the UP of Michigan where I hunt, most of your shots are 25yrds or less. Very dense.

In the past, I hunted with an 8mm Mauser, and used 150grns with that. More than enough for whitetail. I bought the 165s because they were on sale :)

In that case go up.:p J/K, no need to put undue wear and tear on your shoulder. I fire a .270 Ruger. It loves the 130's, and is plenty for me and what I can/do hunt.

Beautiful gun. I'll soon be in the market for another and I'm seriously considering a 30-06 for long-range fun. Enjoy!

Sorry Hard..I don't mean to be mean...but are you crazy...locktite????I have never seen that on a rifle..in 30 years..

Ohhh and 30/06 continues to be one of the best cartridges around. It is very versatile, everything from hunting to match target shooting. It was used in the 1920s and 30s as the 1000 yard Match Cartridge by the US military teams.

Now they (US Military competition marksman and US Snipers) use the off shoot of the 06 the 308..and the 300 Win Mag for longer distances.

You might also dip the tips of the bullets in pink paint, so that as they scream towards their target he will get a hot flash...

As Tabs said, the 30.06 is still a very good round and hard to beat. Been around for years and will still be used years from now.

Wait until you see what happens to the target when you shoot it at 25yds with a 30-06. I shot a hog from about that distance with a 225gr bullet and half of his side was missing. Plenty of knock down power!

I think your scope mounting procedure is fine. Just check their tightness as often as you do the stock bedding screws.
I hope you limit out, too many deer out there. Arkansas had a poor acorn crop this year, giong to be a tough winter for the whitetails.
Jim

Hope you don't mind HardDrive, I have a question for the guru. Tabs, speaking of the 30-.06 military rifles, the 1917 Eddystone specifically, can you tell me the significance of the red band on the barrel end of the stock. The two in the family both have them.

BTW, that is a very nice rifle you have there.

The red band signifies that it shoots the 30.06 caliber ammo.

During the war there was a mix if ammo with some rifles shooting .303 Brit, so some of the rifles were marked like yours to make sure that the correct ammo was used in the rifle.

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"The forend shows a slightly lighter color area about 4 inches wide where it once had the red band which was used to indicate that this took .30-06 ammunition, not the .303 British rounds of the nearly identical looking Pattern 14 rifles."

hunting and murdering poor defenseless animals in the woods makes you very brave.

I also have never seen loctite on a rifle.

Nice rifle and good luck to you. I am going back to Nebraska for Pheasant season this year.

Hope you get a nice deer this season!

I dont get it though?? is On-Ramp against hunting?

On-ramp is against everything. He's a vegan.

Natural predators have been doing it for centuries. Get over sally.

All of my scoped rifles have Loctite on the screws holding the bases to the reciever. They will shoot loose eventually without it, and they are a PIA to get to. You lose your zero when they get loose and have to dissassemble the whole works to fix it. I've never used it on the screws on the rings that actually clamp the scope. They will shoot loose as well, but it gets to be pretty routine to check them every time you clean the gun. You can't do that with the base screws.

165 grain bullets in the '06 are a popular compromise between the traditional 150 and 180 grain weights. They shoot almost as flat as 150's and carry almost as much momentum as 180's. They also tend to be very accurate in the standard 10" twist '06 barrels. They will work great for your application, and kill deer deader than a fence post, but they will tear up some meat at woods ranges.

The Core-Locks and other "cup and core" traditional bullet designs are notorious for inflicting a lot of meat damage. More important in this regard (than weight) these days is the various bullet constructions available. A little bit "tougher" bullet won't tear them up as bad, because it won't tear itself up so bad on impact. I'm a big fan of the old Nosler Partition, but there are others. You can find these "premium" bullets in any weight from 150 to 200 grains in factory ammo from Federal and others. You would have to re-check your zero, even using the same weight, but the difference in performance might be worth it. Hell, you will need to re-check it anyway once you get back to the mid west, so you might look at getting some flavor of "premium" loads with better bullets.

I've killed deer and other critters with quite a few different rifles and calibers; a couple of them '06's (Model 70 Winchester and Number 1 Ruger). My '06 loads have used 180 and 200 Sierras, 180 and 200 Partitions, 180 Barnes X Bullets, and 180 Winchester Fail Safes. The Sierras are the old "cup and core" bullets and tend to do a lot of damage. The Partitions, X Bullets, and Fail Safes are in the "premium" bullet class. They do noticably less damage while still killing as well as anything else.

It takes a good man to respect and value life.

It takes the other to pull a trigger and cause misery and suffering to a living breathing being that is not bothering anybody, just taking a stroll in the woods looking for some water to drink.

you are the same whether you "sport" kill a deer or a dog or a cat, no respect for life.

A good man puts food on the table for his hungry family. A bad man could care less if a car gets mangled because there are too many animals roaming free.

that's BS. nobody HAS to kill for food. you are in AMERICA. food is always close, visit your local grocery store.

too many homo sapiens roaming around free too.. should we kill them too?

a deer MIGHT cross the road and cause an accident, therefore I need to go into the
woods and kill it .

Eventually, some of them, yes. We do our part down here in Texas, time for some of the other states to get with the program.

I am for it! Thin the heard!

On my last trip from Omaha to mpls. I counted 22 dead deer on the side of the road. Personally, I would rather shoot one than have a family member hit it possibly causing harm to one of them. OR you hitting one in your P-Car. I am going back to Neb. for black powder season this year.

If you are going to eat what you shoot, whats your "beef" with that? is it just the killing of a fury little animal looking for a drink of water or what? How do you feel about these animals starving to death when they are not hunted?

Were it not for man farming, giving deer and the like an abundant food source and removing predators, their numbers would be much lower. as it is now the population is out of control most states are giving 2 or more deer per ticket these days.

so you are killing them because you are doing them a favor instead of giving them a chance. i see.

Hunters , like sociopaths and mass murderers, often times in their fantasy minds, conjure up justifications to support their actions.

in this case, reasons are: it's ok because we need to feed our family, it's ok because they might cause an accident, it's ok because they will eventually be eaten by predators, it's ok because they don't make good pets like dogs or cats.

You really are desperate to protect your pathetic little angry world view, aren't you on-ramp?

Right. I'm so angry, I'm taking my rifle and going into the woods to kill something!

I've never felt an overwhelming need to justify my actions to anyone. I eat, therefor I must kill. Either in person or by proxy. I prefer to do it in person and not foist that ugly chore off upon some one else. It takes far more of a man, far more awareness of our place in this world, to look into those big brown eyes and pull a trigger, release an arrow, or employ whatever means you have chosen to end another's life so that yours may continue.

It is the truly pathological that deny our place and hide from this ugly reality by making some one else do it for them. They disgrace and dishonor the very animals that feed them. They are cowards of the lowest order, wringing their hands and quivering behind some delusional world-view conjured in their own addled minds. And please don't think for a moment that because you are a vegan that living things do not die to feed you. It's simply the way of this world. It is innescapable. Denying that and denigrating others for taking a more active role in this life process than you have chosen is hopelessly missguided, delusional, and incredibly stupid.

Nothing I said was a justification. But I also must point out that U forgot to say "its OK because they taste really good and were not raised with drugs and steroids in their feed trough"

The reason there are so many deer is because of man.

Rampy, baby give it a rest!

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Well put,

Look ramp, no one is a bigger animal lover/tree hugger than me, I respect your vegan life'style but I also respect the hunters life'style... as in Jeff's above quote it takes a big man to take responsibility and get up close and personally with bringing home the protein. I personally can't Imagine dropping the hammer on Bambi however a multitude of cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys (mmmmm turkey) an ocean full of fish and even a alligator have given their life's for my meals so I am just as responsible for killing them as the people who did the deed.

Just like I can't imagine being a policeman but I am sure glad there are people out there that want to do that job.

Make sure you wear the orange vest instead of the cammo one.

Someone from Craigs List might mistake you for a deer and "accidently" fill their freezer with you...

As a strict vegan, I have to agree with On-Ramp.

Death penalty for parking violations... problem solved!:p

Although I do occasionally enjoy a good T-Bone and usually have chicken a couple times a week. I do like duck hunting and it's tough to beat fresh dove breasts. And I only shoot ground squirrels because they are so destructive. Same with gophers.

I don't hunt, But I don't hold it against anyone who hunts for meat.

I understand Vegans, but don't try to push your beliefs on me.

I had a vegan chew me out for my leather breifcase..azzwipe!

Ahhh, how can you be a strict vegan and still eat meat, especially red meat? Always thought that vegans did not eat red meat.

Don't you judge me!

Jeez we are antsy today!

Was not judging anyone but curious how someone could be a vegan and eat meat at the same time? If I knew anything about it would not have asked the questions!

Sorry and pls get up on the other side of the bed tomorrow!

I thought we were using BLUE for sarcasm now... Burnin', there must be some blue in there somewhere...

Very well put Jeff.

Right on Jeff.

All this talk about deer is making me hungry. To bad it's not hunting season yet. I have a craving for some back strap, and it sucks that I can't get venison at the grocery store. Guess I'll have to whack a few more this year than last to tie me over for the year.:)