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Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 03:12 PM

Colt 1911 gurus...what's a good clone?
 
I've been looking at vintage Colt 1911's, but I ain't gonna pay the price they're asking. Anyone have opinions as to which clones are decent quality? I've ruled out Llama, but what about Kimber, Dan Wesson, Para-Ordnance? They all look similar in quality to the un-trained eye, but each manufacturer claims theirs is better. Whatever brand I purchase, I will keep it for a long time, so I would like the best. This will be a hip gun.

On a side note...anyone have one of these? I'd also like a concealed weapon...this looks nice!

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/08...3847110093.jpg

scottmandue 09-29-2007 03:33 PM

Turners the the Kimber 45 on sale right now.

Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 3505375)
Turners the the Kimber 45 on sale right now.

Shorthand for.... :confused: Is "Turners" a retailer? Internet?

Edit: Found it. Thanks.

scottmandue 09-29-2007 03:40 PM

Sorry, you sig says southwest so I presumed you had heard of them, they are a chain of sporting goods stores that sells mostly guns and fishing stuff, AFAIK they are only in California.

http://www.turners.com/

stomachmonkey 09-29-2007 03:41 PM

http://www.turners.com/shop/gundetail.php?id=2648

many944s 09-29-2007 03:42 PM

If you are looking for "budget" frames as starters to modify, I would recommend the Charles Daly or Rock Island Armory 1911s.

Both are great frames for modification.

Hope it helps!
Nick

scottmandue 09-29-2007 03:44 PM

Back at you!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191109441.gif

Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 03:45 PM

Not looking for budget. Looking for high(er) quality. I'm probably not going to do any heavy mods. Maybe a custom trigger and hammer...grips. Someone at a gun shop mentioned parts (all?) of the Rock Island guns are manuf. in the Phillipines? Not sure about Charles Daly, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by many944s (Post 3505388)
If you are looking for "budget" frames as starters to modify, I would recommend the Charles Daly or Rock Island Armory 1911s.

Both are great frames for modification.

Hope it helps!
Nick


Eric Coffey 09-29-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 3505392)
Not looking for budget. Looking for high(er) quality. I'm probably not going to do any heavy mods. Maybe a custom trigger and hammer...grips. Someone at a gun shop mentioned parts (all?) of the Rock Island guns are manuf. in the Phillipines? Not sure about Charles Daly, though.

Kimber makes one of the best quality mass-produced 1911's out there. For slightly more "custom" variants, I'd look at Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, STI, SVI/Infinity, & our own Dane Burns. Just keep in mind the cost of "high quality" rises sharply in the 1911 world.

tabs 09-29-2007 04:37 PM

Take a look at Ed Brown 1911s...that what I want...a Custom Classic.

http://www.edbrown.com/

Took my Colt National Match out today and shot it, what a dream. That gun is so tight...

jt1 09-29-2007 04:47 PM

Para Ordnance Limiteds are nice pieces. I've been very satisfied with mine. You need to check out which grip size suits you best, PA's are double stack mags and the grip is pretty wide. The Kimbers are nice, and single stacks are thinner and carry a little easier.

John

Shuie 09-29-2007 04:51 PM

This one is hardly stock, but I'd rather have the pony on the slide every time :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...delta_left.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...elta_right.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...delta_grip.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...lta_muzzle.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../delta_top.jpg

Seahawk 09-29-2007 05:00 PM

I'm still waiting for my Dad to part with his vintage Colt Commander, which he bought before going to Korea, and later Vietnam. We wear each other out who needs it more:)

Non-vintage, and a shooter, hard to go wrong with any of the good manufacturers. I have a Kimber and it has been excellent.

jt1 is on the button concerning grip size.

Go rent a variety at a range and shoot until you're happy.

Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuie (Post 3505483)
This one is hardly stock, but I'd rather have the pony on the slide every time :)

Very nice piece.

Your statement, however, is the root of my internal debate. When I look at other brands, they all claim "improvements" of this or that over the Colt... yet Colt is right up there in price. Not trying to start a Colt vs. Clones war, but what's the real deal? I'm smart enough to not believe every advertisement I read.

BGCarrera32 09-29-2007 05:09 PM

http://www.springfield-armory.com

rouxroux 09-29-2007 05:12 PM

+1 on Kimber
...........or.............

www.clarkcustomguns.com

will build any flavor you want up to full-race.;)
I live less than 5 miles from their shop. Like having the RUF shop in your neighborhood.

Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGCarrera32 (Post 3505499)

They are on my "not totally U.S. made" list:

The company imports the Croatian XD pistol series, and manufactures M1911 clones (largely built with Brazilian components, including frames), M1 Garands, and the M14-based M1A Rifle series.

Shuie 09-29-2007 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 3505496)
Very nice piece.

Your statement, however, is the root of my internal debate. When I look at other brands, they all claim "improvements" of this or that over the Colt... yet Colt is right up there in price. Not trying to start a Colt vs. Clones war, but what's the real deal? I'm smart enough to not believe every advertisement I read.

Don't worry, Im not interested in a Colt vs. clones thread either, that's not my intent. I've been where your at. The best advice I can give is as follows: Go for the Pony.

Seriously, unless CA law prevents you from doing so, buy a recent 70 series reissue. If you cant do that, buy a used worked over full house job from a known smith and enjoy.

Danny_Ocean 09-29-2007 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuie (Post 3505515)
Don't worry, Im not interested in a Colt vs. clones thread either, that's not my intent. I've been where your at. The best advice I can give is as follows: Go for the Pony.

Seriously, unless CA law prevents you from doing so, buy a recent 70 series reissue. If you cant do that, buy a used worked over full house job from a known smith and enjoy.

OK. I'll give 'em a closer look. I live between FL & NM, so no gun restrictions.

id10t 09-29-2007 06:16 PM

I love my Rock Island 2500 rounds, 4 jams all in the first 100 rounds. Only thing I'd change would be to spend the extra and get the "tactical" model - but mostly for the sites. Otherwise, my GI is fine. Or the shop I help with computer stuff has a Ballester Molina in at the moment... just like a 1911, but no grip safety.


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