More Evidence Cali Should be Abandoned

[Mule]

Sink holes, Earthquakes, Mud slides, wild fires, land slides. I propose to all those who got on board with the bulldoze New Orleans concept that this shows that NO MORE federal money can be wasted here.

[Tobra]

whole heartedly agree

Building on an unstable hillside or in an area prone to flooding is irresponsible and ridiculous. Both happen all the time in California, among other places.

[Mule]

In the case of N.O., moving the port, oil industry & seafood is a little tough. Porn flics can be made anywhere.

[Joeaksa]

My property in Arizona might just be "beachfront" someday.

Hope that we can get some notice so that we can move Pelican East to Arizona as well...

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Maybe we could excavate a 100-mile wide moat between what's left of the USA and Mexico.

[Jim Sims]

[Rearden]

Originally Posted by Tobra

whole heartedly agree

Building on an unstable hillside or in an area prone to flooding is irresponsible and ridiculous. Both happen all the time in California, among other places.

+1
If somebody is foolish enough to rebuild on a flood plain, or on a hill subject to landslides, then the government should absolutely stay away from that.

[lfot]

Originally Posted by Rearden

+1
If somebody is foolish enough to rebuild on a flood plain, or on a hill subject to landslides, then the government should absolutely stay away from that.

So by that reasoning, everytime a floodplain reclaims it's namesake in the midwest....

BTW... Seattle sits next to a still active, and overdue for eruption, volcano.
So anyone that builds there now, knowing what we know, should not be covered by the Feds?

How about the rebuilding of New Orleans?

And for that matter, why do we keep rebuilding in Florida after every hurricane if we know it will just happen again.

Also, every small town in Tornado Alley is now officially on their own.

[Rearden]

Exactly. Lots that are repeatedly flooded in the Midwest, New Orleans, Florida, etc and the private insurance industry considers it to be too risky to insure, then so be it. The rest of us shouldn't have to pay for the looming disaster over and over. Build somewhere else.

[lfot]

I'm just saying don't everybody go and make California the scape goat.
I've lived all over this country, and there are risks everywhere you live.
The rest of the country views CA as a big target.

We all know that Florida is the true evil.

[on-ramp]

just give California to Mexico. problem solved.

[2.7RACER]

I don't know how to break this to all you California bashers. I expect most of you have heard of Universal Studios?
For many years now Universal has been making various disaster scenes for distribution on the national networks. The purpose? To keep outsiders from moving in.
Frankly, keep bashing. It helps keep the trash out.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by on-ramp

just give California to Mexico. problem solved.

That's pretty much already happened, or didn't you get the memo?

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by lfot

I'm just saying don't everybody go and make California the scape goat.
I've lived all over this country, and there are risks everywhere you live.
The rest of the country views CA as a big target.

We all know that Florida is the true evil.

Bull *****, we only have canes, Cali has quakes, sink holes, mud slides( when is the last time you heard of a home sliding down a hill in FL or off a cliff) fires, cold ocean, storms & san Fran, Rob Riener, babs and a bunch of other nutz. If anyplace is true evil, by the punishment that what ever God you choose to believe in, has given it, it is Cali

[on-ramp]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Bull *****, we only have canes, Cali has quakes, sink holes, mud slides( when is the last time you heard of a home sliding down a hill in FL or off a cliff) fires, cold ocean, storms & san Fran, Rob Riener, babs and a bunch of other nutz. If anyplace is true evil, by the punishment that what ever God you choose to believe in, has given it, it is Cali

you still believe Iraq attacked "us" on 9/11 ?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I'd be just fine with making CA its own country. Our economy would get about twice as strong overnight without all those deadweight red states helping themselves to our tax dollars and doing oh-so-necessary things like paying off farmers not to plant crops.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by on-ramp

you still believe Iraq attacked "us" on 9/11 ?

I never did, but at least I'm smart enough to know that they were funding terrorist activities, and I had friends who were shot at on a daily basis while patrolling the no fly zone. So IO guess you don't think Cali has quakes and the other stuff???

[Jim Sims]

There are more sinkholes in Florida than any other place in the nation.

http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/guide/sinkholes.html

[nostatic]

Yes, all those who moved to CA from another state should go back. No need for anyone to considering moving here either...it is a cesspool.

We'll annex Baja, form our own country with three states (north CA, south CA, baja CA), and have a festive time. Spanglish will be the official language, and we'll likely move up to #5 on the world economy list. Meanwhile the US will drop to #2 or #3. Happy trails!

[lfot]

Uhmm... yeah. Hurricanes aren't nearly as bad as earthquakes.

original article here:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/historic_disasters/tp/deadliest_us.htm


Top 10 Deadliest U.S. Natural Disasters

1. Galveston, TX Hurricane - September 18, 1900
Estimated death toll: about 8000
The deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history was the hurricane that ripped into the rich, port city of Galveston, Texas, on September 18, 1900. The category 4 storm devastated the island city, killing 1 in 6 residents and destroying most of the buildings in its path. The building which housed the port's immigration records was one of many destroyed in the storm, and few Galveston ships manifests survive for the years 1871-1894.

2. Great Okeechobee Hurricane, Florida - September 16-17, 1928
Estimated death toll: 2500+
Coastal residents living along Palm Beach, Florida, were basically prepared for this category 4 hurricane, but it was along the south shores of Lake Okeechobee in the Florida Everglades that most of the 2000+ victims perished. Many were migrant workers working in such an isolated location, that they had no warning of the impending disaster.

3. Johnstown, PA Flood - May 31, 1889
Estimated death toll: 2209+
A neglected southwestern Pennsylvania dam and days of rain combined to create one of America's greatest tragedies. The South Fork Dam, built to hold back Lake Conemaugh for the prestigious South Fork Fishing & Hunting Club, collapsed on May 31, 1889. More than 20 million tons of water, in a wave reaching more than 70 feet high, swept 14 miles down the Little Conemaugh River Valley, destroying everything in its path, including most of the industrial city of Johnstown.

4. Chenier Caminada Hurricane - October 1, 1893
Estimated death toll: 2000+
The unofficial name of this Louisiana hurricane (also spelled Chenier Caminanda or Cheniere Caminada) comes from the island-type peninsula, located 54 miles from New Orleans, that lost 779 people to the storm. The devastating hurricane predates modern forecasting tools, but is thought to have had winds approaching 100 miles per hour. It was actually one of two deadly hurricanes that hit the U.S. during the 1893 hurricane season (see below).

5. "Sea Islands" Hurricane - August 27-28, 1893
Estimated death toll: 1000 - 2000
It is estimated that the "Great Storm of 1893" that struck the southern South Carolina and northern Georgia coast was at least a Category 4 storm, but there is no way of knowing, since measures of hurricane intensity weren't measured for storms before 1900. The storm killed an estimated 1,000 - 2,000 people, mostly from storm surge affecting the low-lying barrier "Sea Islands" off the Carolina coast.

6. Hurricane Katrina - August 29, 2005
Estimated death toll: 1836+
The most destructive hurricane ever to strike the United States, Hurricane Katrina was the 11th named storm in the busy 2005 hurricane season. The devastation in New Orleans and the surrounding Gulf Coast area cost over 1,800 lives, billions of dollars in damage, and catastrophic loss to the region's rich cultural heritage.

7. Great New England Hurricane - 1938
Estimated death toll: 720
The hurricane dubbed by some as the "Long Island Express" made landfall over Long Island and Connecticut as a category 3 storm on September 21, 1938. The powerful hurricane decimated almost 9,000 buildings and homes, caused over 700 deaths, and reshaped the landscape of the south Long Island shore. The storm caused over $306 million in damage in 1938 dollars, which would equal about $3.5 billion in today's dollars.

8. San Francisco Earthquake - 1906
Estimated death toll: 700 confirmed, estimates of up to 3000
In the dark morning hours of April 18, 1906, the sleeping city of San Francisco was rocked by a massive earthquake. Walls caved in, streets buckled, and gas and water lines broke, allowing residents little time to take cover. The earthquake itself lasted less than a minute, but fires broke out across the city almost immediately, fueled by broken gas lines and a lack of water to put them out. Four days later, the earthquake and subsequent fire left more than half of San Francisco's population homeless, and had killed somewhere between 700 and 3000 people.

9. Georgia - South Carolina Hurricane - 1881
Estimated death toll: 700
Hundreds of people were lost in this August 27th hurricane that struck the east U.S. coast at the juncture of Georgia and South Carolina, causing severe damage to Savannah and Charleston. The storm then moved inland, dissipating on the 29th over northwestern Mississippi, resulting in about 700 deaths.

10. Tri-State Tornado in Missouri, Illinois and Indiana - 1925
Estimated death toll: 695
Widely considered the most powerful and devasting tornado in American history, the Great Tri-State Tornado ripped through Missouri, Illinois and Indiana on March 18, 1925. It's uninterrupted 219-mile treck killed 695 people, injured more than 2000, destroyed about 15,000 homes, and damaged more than 164 square miles.