so I guess the point is people are either going to support Gore's views or they are just not getting it' or otherwise are deniers?

Yes. That's it exactly.

that sounds a lot like a religious litmus test

whatever your thoughts on global warming are, giving Al Gore the peace prize for a work of fiction, that will contribute nothing to peace, makes a total joke out of the prize. The list of people more deserving is so long as to make Al Gore the biggest joke since he invented the internet.

I meant "the Messenger", Al Gore.

It's not about the science? What are you smoking?

The film is about a pack of lies dressed up as science.

OK, you've persuaded me on that point (after you posted Alfred Nobel's original intent for the Peace prize) I honestly thought it was about Peace.
I'll save irrational for another subject ... :)

If man can truly control global temperatures, then I promise there will be wars over WHO gets to control the Global Thermostat. -thanks Al.

Environmental responsibility is inconvenient. Especially for the oil industry. And so, there is a very successful propaganda strategy going on out there, and some very vulnerable people.

Last week we heard the results of humidity studies. Yup, the amount of water in our atmosphere is rising, predictably, along with the temperature rise.

Yes, I know. The response goes like this:

1) Deny. And when data is presented that cannot be denied, and that data shows indisputable warming, then....

2) Adopt the conclusion that current warming has nothing to do with the millions of tons of carbon and sulfur we put in the air each day and that.....

3) The decrease in protective ozone either:
a. also has nothing to do with chlorofluorocarbons or....
b. is of no consequence....no impact

Of course, these convenient assumptions are virtually impossible to defend in light of the evidence, so when the above assumptions come under scrutiny........

4) Call scientists "liberals" and pretend there is a communist plot. Pretend there is a sizeable scientific community that draws the conclusions above. In fact, if you're really bold, pretend that community is somewhere near as large as the scientists who are studying the changes.

Yes, there have been Ice Ages. Are we pretending they were not caused by anything? Are we denying that current temperature increases are being caused by the millions of tons of pollutants will place in the atmosphere daily? In fact, are we thinking that humans could not possibly impact the environment, and that therefore it is useless and inappropriate to even discuss the role of humans?

Your "president" does not like science. Or any other source of information besides his press secretary. Or books or newspapers. If you prefer an exceedingly simple way of looking at complex problems, then this is your guy. It's probably just coincidental that his family makes its money selling oil to you.

Forget about who is causing or even if the is climate change. Does Big Al deserse to win the NPP for making a movie about a issue that is not DIRECTLY related to peace? There many more people that are risking thier lives to forward peace in thier own countries but they don't have a movie to promote thier issues.

If the movie is "peace" related, who are the two parties that are fighting? Who is the enemy? And don't give me this crap about man is the enemy and we are fighting for the world.

It's just a joke.

Exactly.

LOL ...supe...

Hey, this just in; Big oil is actually funding Al, and the whole Global warming issue.:eek: ..that's right, and it's a Big sham! They want us to all Believe thatthe planet is getting warmer ... when Actually the "experts" of the 1970's had it right... we are cooling ...Big Oil wants to sell more oil to the unsuspecting. Meanwhile, New zelanders are thinning the flocks of sheep as the price of wool is expected to plummet with the "expected" Balmy global temperatures. :rolleyes:

seriously super, you need to have a better technical understanding of it all. Sheesh, even GW. says global warming is man made.... and you know how wrong he is.:cool:

Man Bear Pig :eek: -- and the award goes to....

I know. I'm the guy that's buying up all the sheep futures.

Meanwhile, scientists all over the world are being fooled into concluding that humans make an impact on the environment in ways that might be, in some instances, suboptimal.

Superman
"Your "president" does not like science. Or any other source of information besides his press secretary. Or books or newspapers. If you prefer an exceedingly simple way of looking at complex problems, then this is your guy. It's probably just coincidental that his family makes its money selling oil to you."

Can you list the oil companies GW owns or has stock in?

Your "data" most certainly can be denied, along with the fraudulent conclusions derived from it.

I don't know about vulnerable people, but I do recognize gullible when I see it, especially after reading your post. It is you who doesn't like, or should I say understand, science. There is no consensus among climate scientists, as has been fraudulently portrayed, to support the conclusions of the IPCC report or the recommendations of Kyoto.

If carbon dioxide is a pollutant, then please stop breathing. You are destroying the planet.

Lastly, you still believe that stratospheric ozone layer crap? That was debunked years ago when it was proven that the ozone layer was much thinner and UV penetration higher by more than an order of magnitude long before humans ever walked the earth.

Did you not read your communist newsletter. You were instructed to let that one go in favor of the new hysteria producing plot.

Assuming the carbon-causes-global-warming meme is true, then adding sulfur into the atmosphere (reversing the clean air revolution of the past several decades) would cause the sunlight to reflect off the sulfur particles again, like they used to.

Means a lot from a socialist who started a post trying to avoid paying a tax:rolleyes:

There is no consensus on the precise details - and you wouldn't expect there to be. But there is a broad consensus on the trends, and causes and what we are able to do about them....unless of course you get your "hard" information from the "Science & Public Policy Institute."

Great post!

I hate to break this to you - but having the gipper as your avatar does nothing for your reputation as a deep thinker.