Chuck Norris doesn't cry, he's frowns and tears run from his eyes fearing a lethal round house kick.

I have a confession...I used to believe in Santa Claus.

Like I said...I resigned. Also, like I said, there are many nice guys in the gruppe. There are some who aren't. It was kind of funny...I just took a look around, decided I didn't want to hang with the ones who weren't nice guys. Knowing they would always be part of the scene, I decided to leave the scene.

I participated in some events...I'll just leave it at that.

"California only group" - they aren't -- there is a lot of mis-information around, including the claim that everything is on Early 911S bbs, tho a lot is.

There are chapters in Portland & Seattle areas. Not sure about Memphis. if you are talking to Chris, ask if anyone in or near Memphis belongs. Go ahead and hook up with any driving group in your area, even if they are in 550s or 908s...

It is limited to the early cars, that have been modified in a certain hot rod way. I think There are a couple of bumper cars in, but they are not your normal bumper car by any means.

sounds like a bunch of arrogant jackass' that the pca wasn't good enough for....and the pca is generally a bunch of arrogant jackass'

Jeez, this is like rush week on sorority row.

I guess Groucho Marx was right.

One great thing about being an R Gruppe member is that you get a great discount on Duct Tape. It really is quiet a sight to see a line of R Gruppe cars with hydralics go bouncing by....and they plan their runs based upon where the Starbucks are located. So if you wana be a Hard Drivin Porsche man that has to been in by 8 PM or the old lady will get on your case the R Gruppe is FOR U.

PWD really quit the R Gruppe because he found out that he couldn't bring his machine gun along with him to the meetings

Nope, but they have a secret milkshake:cool:

RGruppe Bubbas, I would recommend never posting counter posits in these threads, it gives life.:cool:

But, who the F am I? While I own the best looking, least loved post 1973 Porsche concoction, son of a bastard spawn, adulterated roof line mutation, I remain alone and unafraid.

SGruppe: Our S doesn't stink.;)

I'm still looking for Gruppe W.

i hearby call this meeting of NO'MAAM to order!!!

I like machine guns...

PWD was planning on going to the meeting with a stop over in Stockton, CA.

Does it bring all the boys to the yard?

and the secret answer is:

"Damn right, it's better than yours....I can teach you, but I have to charge";)

You know...that's not far from what has happened...ever inches higher of "tall dawg" pee marks up the proverbial fire hydrant...all wanting to own the "latest and greatest" R Gruppe car featured in EXCELLENCE.

I kinda wish Cris would go back and read the article in EXCELLENCE that started it all...a pretty cool article featuring his car, his brothers cars, his friends cars. The theme being that blue collar working stiffs could still have the 911 experience.

But then, I guess, money and arrogance always takes over...when something becomes suddenly "in".

Paul, us "working stiffs" that spend our time getting greasy and banging up our knuckles on these old cars (when we aren't driving them) are still the heart and soul of it all. Yes, there are some guys with some serious money tied up in some beautiful cars, but that is hardly the norm. They are all great guys with something to add to the club; their machinery is an inspiration to many of us. Not everyone has to bomb around in an old beater like me, or turn their own wrenches to do so. It really is a good cross-section of means and mechanical know-how, all tied together by a love of these cars. So, while I do see the "money" here with some guys (just like in any car or bike club), I certainly don't see the "arrogance". In all of my years of running with all kinds of different car and bike clubs, I've never actually met a more down-to-earth bunch.

Heh heh. .Jeff, you so silly. :D

Oh boy.. I always enjoy a good Rgruppe thread... I think it REALLY is nothing but an "Ole boys club" They either have to like YOU or your CAR. You simply don't ask to join the group.

I say go build a ***** hot 911.. and when they ask you to join .. say no thanks! ;) hahaha!

Damn I wish I could find that BAW thread....anyone else searched for it?

Erik, Is yours done yet?

Dang, Scooter; that has to be tough. I'm sorry he let you down like that. Especially after you worked for him for so long.

Last time a saw it, it was loud & nasty, and he was taking all kinds of stuff off of it to make it lighter. I wouldn't be suprised if it was windowless and doorless now :D

Me and the other fellas quit making toys because the old man lied to us and wouldn't pay minimum wage.

I refuse to belong to any club that would have me as a member. So I started my own Short Wheelbase Wine and Cheese Club.

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We meet online once a month and join hands and don't think about R U S T.

Brilliant Herr Cramer. :D Wait a sec... Is that wheel of cheeze cast! :eek:

and Jeff, how's that saying go? ... those living in a Santa physique should not be throwing Reindeer turds...

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Harvey Weidman could get that imperfection out for you...

I've heard the stories about R-Gruppe's exclusivity, but never fell victim to it. I've driven a couple times with the so-called "snooty" Cali members at track events, and they seemed like good people. I have a '74, btw - first year of "the ugliness." :p

That's why my 911 is set up so stiff and so grossly over damperingerereded, to support my svelte Santa-esque physique.

LOL . .. ya sleigh me! (cough cough) From now on it's the Blue Sled.

I know EXACTLY what Paul was talking about, but I think it related to a particular person in this local group, not to R-gruppe as a whole. Certainly, several other members I've met don't act like that.

Paul also inserted some economic class separation language (and imagine! he thinks I'm a liberal). The cost to fix up or even buy these cars has gone way way up in the last decade or two. Some people work on their cars themselves (sometimes, not always, for economic reasons); others will pay big $$ to have the car prepped for them. Rgruppe contains both types. All these cars are increasingly being bought by people with a lot of $$ - whether they are hot rods or concoursey cars or just an early driver. There is no way to 'fix' that unless you are waiting for the impending economic crash (at least in these cars) - I guess Paul & I both are doing that.

I initially brought up the Black Audi Wagon as a joke. People & groups should be able to joke at themselves, tho I wasn't there when the Black Audi spoiled a yearly photo op. Rgruppe had reserved a parking lot just to take the annual ducks in a row pic, but a traffic cone had been moved and the Audi had intruded into an open space. It got elevated a bit out of context -- nobody stared to death by a warlord, or killed by an IED...

The emblem should be centered on the cheese wheel, and is not period correct.

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That glass of oil is making me thirsty.

there is always nogruppe, in fact i still have some of the stickers the founder of nogruppe sent me before he became a card carrying member of the real deal. funny how that all went..

T$

It seems illogical that nogruppe would have stickers. :confused:

Not really, they're blank.

Randy? Wrong-oh on both counts. But only partially so. The "particular person" you mention? An egocentric A-hole, no doubt. At least as far as my opinion goes.

But, NOT a particular person...he was only a part of it...it really is an attitude thing.

Like Jimmy Buffett said in his song...changes in attitudes... Some very wealthy people have a good attitude. Some semi wealthy people don't...

All of this, of course, is my reaction to my observations...just my opinion. My decision to leave R Gruppe as #15? Many factors were involved ..also, many factors were involved in my decision to pass the car along to Evren.

On one respect, I agree. R Gruppe has a LOT of members who "get it". You are among those. Hang on to your enthusiasm. Mine is gone...

I think there's room for yet another Groop. I'm thinking this one should be dedicated to crashing R-Gruppe events, and stealing their thunder (and any complimentary wine and/or cheese). :D

I even have a sticker:
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:cool:

Viva La BAW!

The No Gruppe is legendary in spite of the fact that there isn't one. They have never existed and have never met. They never even had their own "sticky" about their non-meetings at the XXX Root Beer Drive-In located in Issaquah, Washington.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/pacific-northwest-us-wa-id-ut-hi-ak/267147-porsche-saturday-breakfasts-2nd-saturday-monthly.html

There is a group of Porsche enthusiasts that just happen to show up at the XXX every second Saturday for breakfast. PCA dropouts and ne'er do wells one and all. Last month's non-event:

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Most of the local R Gruppe members are regulars. Can you spot their cars?

And yes, there actually is a window sticker. I inherited them from rdane. That's all you get; a window sticker. You can't join; no one can. You also can't quit. Or get kicked out. Everyone is a member; no one is a member. You're probably not a member right now and didn't even realize it. No officers, no meetings, nothing. Except for a window sticker.

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They actually go quite well together...

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Looks like the yellow Mustang is the No Gruppe black Audi.

It's owner actually owns Mark Wilson's old SC, "The Duck". That's a Parnelli Jones edition, one of 500 (I think). He's been a regular for years. You would be amazed what shows up. Everyone, everything is welcome. We get mostly Porsches, but just about everything else to boot:

The "Kakabox" is an absolute autocross weapon. Only weighs around 1400 pounds:

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Weighs a lot more than 1400 pounds:

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And they show up in all kinds of weather. Yes, this car was in Excellence a few months back. He drives the Unimog on the nice days and the ST in the snow. Go figure.

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This one made it from 30 miles away in the snow. Probably never make it into Ecellence, though.

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