ricer encounter
 

I was at a holloween party last night, and somehow ended up talking to a kid who had his acura integra there. I asked him to estimate the power in the car. He guesses around 480hp. I asked what he did to it. He said "everything man, everything." I asked him to elaborate, then he proceeded to say "The company i bought it from hooked it up. It's a real sleeper." Then he pushes a flashy button on his key ring and the car starts up. I asked if it had a turbo. He then proceeded to say he was pushing 45 (lbs or psi i forget which one) but either or seem pretty unreasonable for a car he owns that he has no idea what is done to it. And how could he spend all this cash on a car if he has no idea what was done to it? I asked how much the car weighs he had no idea, not even a guess. Its so hard not to laugh at these people right in front of them as they make their claims.:rolleyes:

very funny
 

You can certainly make a ton of horsepower by stuffing massive quantities of air or NOS into the cylinders of modern engines. Who knows what the reality of this engine actually is. Or even it has forced induction.

mmm…. Does it really matter? If he believed it maybe that’s all that counts. Maybe reality gets in the way of happiness too often. If he believes it makes 480 hp, then good for him.

I like my 200hp 3.2 engine.... God forbid I ever take it to a dyno.


Todd, Minneapolis

Don't know about the guy you met but I did a quick scan of the internet and found this 570 hp Acura so it sure is possible that he was truthful - if a bit clueless!

I have a very good friend with a 600hp 1997 Supra turbo. The key there is Methanol injection. The power curve is more like a power spike, but believe it - these can be some seriously fast cars.

Seriously fast ... and seriously dead is what they can do to driver and passenger if said driver gets his driving style from watching Hollywood garbage! And, in some cities/states ... if one/both of the drivers happen to survive a fatality-involved street racing incident, they get a felony idictment to worry about after leaving the hospital!

The insanity of car advertisements on TV imitating/promoting and suggesting humor in the 'drifting' style of driving ... to is beyond irresponsible!!! It is criminal by the effect it has on the attitude of young teen [and older] drivers!

Well, hmmm.

Certainly what you say is true and without question, but I have to say that I have witnessed that driving style in every Marque. It is not exclusive to Japanese cars, nor is it unknown to Porsche drivers.

While I do appreciate the undesirable effect that new styles of auto competition can have on young people, I do not believe this has anything to do with the manufacturer.

we've got several vw's here ( 1.8T, 2l 16v) getting 380 wheel hp on the dyno with room for more. One guy spent about $30,000 on a 1981 rabbit to get 340 hp on the dyno. If money is no concern then it's amazing what can be done.

I know an older feller who just recently bought what is supposed ot be the fastest Supra in the world.

At least 1000HP and it is very unassuming. This same guy sold a 2004 Turbo 911 and a 500HP WRX STi. If you go to Google and type in World's fastest Supra, you will see David's car. The story goes that the guy in Chicago couldn't get races anymore so he sold it off to David.

(oh, he has a Z06 pushing what he claims is around 650HP.)

I have a young friend who is into Fast Japanese Cars. He let me drive one, and it was faster than my Euro SC by a long shot, and man could it corner ! I scared him in his own car! I really wasn't trying to either.

A lot has happened in the engineering world since the 80s. Check out cell phones VS mobile phones. It is hard for me to say I would want a Japanese car, but I do respect them, and that AC stuff is nice too . Old school or new school, we are all car guys.

Enjoy. SmileWavy

I have to agree. Anyone who underestimates the performance of late model ricer cars is nieve. Fact is, a whole lot of them are a lot faster in a straight line than most of our Porsches ( unless you're driving a serious turbo ). Two years ago I daily drove a Nissan R34 GTR with minor mods that was making 390whp, and would run an 11.9 quarter on street tyres every day. I've had friends with 10 second WRX's that are daily driven.

Fact is though, I love my Porsches. The GTR was fast, but frankly too fast for the street, and not that fun on the track. I like how everytime I get in my RS replica it's an event, and it puts a smile on my face, and I love it on the track.

Maybe guys get the same feeling from their 500hp imports, and I guess all power to them.

yes, high hp is possible...
 

I've been involved in the building of my share of Asian hand grenade motors.

Yes, it is certainly possible to run enough boost, Nitrous, methanol, etc. to get impressive-sounding hp numbers.

But there are several major issues: getting the power to the ground, engines that self-destruct, and high hp with low of torque and thus unusable performance.

I respect some of the efforts I've seen, much as I admired muscle cars with Holley double-pumpers, 6-71 blowers, and radical cams.

I've met a few clueless muscle car & hot rod drives as well. Usually at car shows - people who bought the car as an "investment" or paid someone else to do all the work. Like the guy 3 weeks ago who tells me his '58 vette with a stock '95 or so 'vette engine and stock '58 drivetrain is worth high 5-figures, low 6 figures and could break 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile....

I'd much rather have a more mature, well-engineered, historically significant car.

911 ...there is no substitute...

;)

gotta love torque steer if you go that far in terms of power on FWD

You never know. The "rice" crowd meets every Friday and Saturday at a Taco Bell by my house. Well, come to find out, it's not all "rice." Some of those guys have seriously fast cars, with seriously high horsepower. ~600HP TT 350Zs, wicked high strung turbo 240s and RX7s. Of course, some standard rice. Knew a guy with a Dinan blown M5 who decided to race a guy with an Eclipse for some large $$. Eclipse whipped his ass and took his money. After the race the guy in the Eclipse opens the glovebox and out falls time slips from the 1/4 track, super low 11 and high 10s. No body mods.

A kid that dated one the cashiers at the JLube I worked at drove an honest to God right hand drive Skyline. That car got him laid ALL the time. And it was pretty fast.

There are tons of super modded American and import cars running around my home town.

I don't know where these kids get the money, but I wish I had it...

You're right- a LSD helps but you'd better hold onto that steering wheel. It's especially noticeable in a Honda or Integra!
The 911 may not be as fast but it has alot more style:)

warren i don't disagree with you.....but i seem to recall watching a lot of dukes of hazzard and smokey & the bandit.

the original post is describing a 'check writer'. dw1 nailed it. checkwriters are just no fun to talk to.

a buddy saw a t-shirt that said 'you don't hunt....i see no reason to talk to you'. perhaps a 'you don't turn your own wrenches....i see no reason to talk to you' would be a good seller.

:confused: I must be doing something wrong. Never got laid because of my car(s). Maybe it's my breath...?

Or it could be one of those "cumulative horsepower calculator" types...e.g. fart can adds 20hp, turbonator adds 50hp, smooth intake tube adds 30hp, so therefore I must have an additional 100hp by adding all that stuff, right? :rolleyes:

My cars never got me laid either; and they still don't. Although I got laid IN one, but that's different.

No bull****, my ex, the one I wrote a thread about on here, admitted to dating guys for their cars.

Are we talking about a woman or a girl? Perhaps I should start cruising high-schools...
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Shhhhhh!! You guys are messing up my 1.3 liter 500HP sleeper.

I love the look on the Porsche and Corvette guys faces at DE's when I suck out their headlights with my crappy ricer car with its fart pipe that weighs 2400 lbs.......

I met a guy with a turbo Integra making over 500 to the wheels, the problem is most of your FWD cars cannot put that power down, race them from a standstill and you'll eat them alive, well until they catch back up to you. Do not race these guys from a roll. They will destroy you.

Yep, Supras are known to be able to make 1000+hp, but that's a far cry from an integra. It's much easier to do with the engine in the supra.

I had a good friend when I lived in Texas who had an integra very similar to mine, when he started anyway. He put the supercharger, and the suspension, limited slip, brakes, all that. He gave the BMW M3 guys all they wanted and then some on the track. Fun, fast car. Problem with big power in a front driver though

I don't care how much power it makes - having big tires on the front wheels ALWAYS looks stupid and makes me laugh. I don't care how fast it goes. It looks ridiculous.

Also guys that put high-downforce wings on FWD cars. Cracks me up. Don't they realize they're decreasing the traction to the steering (and drive) wheels? I'm sure that's real good for cornering at high speeds. :rolleyes:

LOL!

Tom had big tires on the front and back, don't think he was all that concerned about how fast it went straight, more how it would stop and corner. He had similar power to the M3's, but was lighter and would outbrake and corner them. The suspension on the integras is the best thing about them, never understood the guys trying to turn them into drag cars.

Don't get us started...

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Cesiro's wing...

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Here's my ricer photo from this evening. It's proof that the TypeR really does exist here :D.
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Somewhere I have a picture of a Pontiac 6000, blue with bald tires and a "Type R" sticker. Laughed my way along for several more miles after seeing that on the freeway one day.

My brother does a lot of illegal street racing. He currently uses a Nissan 200 SX. It is the turbo model with originally 200 bhp. So far with a little tinkering of his own, he has got some 320 bhp out of it. A friend of his have the same model and with further modification he recieves just about 480 bhp. Ridiculous IMO.

If anybody has 45#s of boost on a stock anything, I wanna watch when the hit the gas. I hope he has a basket under the engine. I hear all this crap about how indestructible rice burners are but they seem to break a lot with 20 or so pounds of boost. No surprise. Top Fuel runs 60 something pounds of boost. You can count on one hand the number of street cars with over 30 #s of boost & you better not have a buffoon behind the wheel. This car has about 30.

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You never know what you are facing nowadays. Just about anything can be made fast.

This is the quickest street car (or race car) that I have ever ridden in. Car has run 9.20's and 150+ mph......but never on the same pass. If it would go straight, it would be a solid 8 second street car. (must have something to do with the stock VW suspension and brakes......) :D

Big VW air cooled flat 4. Runs on methanol with a giant ball-bearing turbo and a huge shot of nitrous. Nicknamed the Devils Hot Rod, the car ironically made 666HP to the ground this month WITHOUT THE SPRAY!!!!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/fork_off.gif

It will light up the tires at 100 mph on the street. I rode in it once - never again!
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Here is a video from a couple weeks ago. Missed second gear, but still ran 9.4's
http://www.dragracingtv.com/vw/misc/drag-racing-unlimited-street-vegas-2007.html

I was having a drink in Chattanooga one Monday evening when a guy walks in with a NOPI shirt. I had just come back from Bowling Green with a friend's 1800 hp Super Street Outlaw Mustang. I ask the NOPI dude wheres the closest NOPI event. Nashville, he says. I say, how fast are the streetable classes going? 7's, he responds. I say I meant, in the quarter mile, not the eighth. He states that he meant the quarter, tells me that on Friday nights the import heavyweights meet right where we are, & asks if I have a car. At the time I had a 630hp, 3000 lb, car sitting in the parking lot. I say yeah, & give him a few details. He states matter of factly, "Oh V8's can't run with these imports. The V8 crowd meets at another place."

There is a guy near by me now with an 8 second Civic. It is about as streetable as the space shuttle.

At an NMRA event in Bradenton Fl, a guy shows up with a Supra with much work, 2 big turbos and spray for days. Puts it on the dyno, pulls 900+ at the wheels. Somebody comments about how fast it is. Import man stated matter of factly, "None of these Mustangs out here have anything for me." That word gets around the pits fast. Most of these guys have street racing backgrounds. Soon, a racer in the 3rd fastest class shows up on a golf cart, puts $5k on his hood & says, "come on, lets take 'em to the line! Put that in your pocket & if I win we'll settle up at the other end!" The Supra went on the trailer & Import man & his Supra left.

I'd "estimate" that my car had at least 100 hp, DECLARE that I once had her up to 43 mph, LAUGH and then walk away...why bother :)?

Car guys are car guys, no matter what they drive. A real car guy appreciates a capable car, regardless of where it was built. Anyone that passes off all Japanese cars as "rice" is a fool, soon to have his a$s handed to him on a track. Going fast for cheap, Japanese turbo sports cars are the American muscle car, 40 years later.

You find the "check writer" type in any circle. God knows there's plenty of Porsche owners that fit into that mold.

I had some sideways-hat, baggy-pants jackass come up to me at a gas station when I had my 951 one time looking to start some schit. He had a bondo-ed up Civic or some other similar POS and starts in with "hey man is that car fast"? (I responded by saying "depends who's asking"). Finally he asks me if I want to follow him and we can race 0-60. I responded by saying that street racing is for *********s but if he wants to meet me at Willow Springs some weekend I'd be happy to race him 0-160. He just slinked off.

Who breeds these people, anyway?

I've had this conversation w/ import guys before. They take a fwd 4cyl, apply some technology, race a stock Mustang & think they are fast. A guy I know bought a stock 2003 Cobra new, replaced the stock blower with a Kennee Bell unit, added a chip & an x pipe, drove it to work every day & ran low 9's on drag radials. Any way you slice it, a 4 cyl is half a V8.

Actually, youhave to give the Sport Compact guys more credit than that. Many of the hard core racers get more power per CI than any production based V8's. So in a way they are more than half a v8 :)

I pulled out of our local grocery store a couple of weeks back. The light went to yellow as I was passing though the intersection. The mighty 2.0T was wailing away behind me when I looked in my rear view mirror. A mid-80's 300ZX came screaming up behind me. He had pulled out behind me and absolutely blew the red. "Dumb ass" I think as he pulls up along side. He wants to go so I hammer the Mighty 2.0T up through third. I pull away and at the next light he pulls up, rolls down is window and asks if it's a Turbo....I guess the 911T badge must have fooled him. I informed him he was just beat sensless by a 38 year old bone stock 2.0L T.

Yes, he had the fart can and no, he did not attempt it again.

Last week a guy with an R34 (6 cyl + sick turbo) handed it to me (V8 + supercharger) at Brands Hatch. It was just a track day, his car was track prepared whilst mine is completely stock....

Still my car is putting out close to 530 rwhp.... and it is no slouch.

Yet he was pulling away from me...

Yes the track was more suited to a 4x4,... i didnt want to push etc... Still it was a very well sorted car, possibly pushing 600-650 rwhp and was driven right...

I would not dismiss them so lightly...