..

Is that right?! Wow!

What is it that YOU want (besides wanting the problem to disappear at no cost or effort to yourself)?

Dear illegal aliens,

There are fires in California, consider yourselves warned......

:rolleyes:
Facts are facts, orig. article published in The San Diego Union-Tribune


Thursday, October 25, 2007
Two looting arrests in Tecate

Two additional looting arrests were made Wednesday evening, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Kolender said.

The men were spotted on Tecate Road near the border with items in their hands taken from burned-out residences, sheriff's officials said. They were arrested as they tried to cross into Mexico at the Tecate port of entry.

Yep, these should have been shot!!! It amazes me that some here still defend these looting thieves.

http://i15.tinypic.com/66vsiev.jpg

Yeah, I know. Did the paper you read also state that all the crimes were commited by illegals? Or that a high percentage were commited by illegals? Or give the ethnicity of those looters who weren't illegal?

Oh, a word of warning; not to say that the paper is wrong here, but beware of extreme political slant when reading anything in that publication (many call it a rag). Best to read the LA Times, the Guardian or SOME newspaper of some stature - glad to see you're reading though; puts you one up on many.

LA times? ROFLMAO that is the most biased liberal rag i've ever read.
The weekly world news is more accurate than the times.

Nice to know how much respect you have for the law and those who defend it. ZBrave illegals, they should have shot them in the knees and let them burn:mad:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193874320.jpg

SmileWavy, understood Darisc, not starting a flame war, its just a hot button issue with me. By the way here's the LA Times....

Six illegal immigrants arrested at Qualcomm

San Diego:

Six undocumented Mexican immigrants were arrested today by U.S. Border Patrol agents at Qualcomm Stadium, after a report that they were stealing food and water meant for evacuees, according to spokesman Damon Foreman.

San Diego police responded to a call about alleged theft from the evacuation center and encountered six people in a van who didn't speak English and didn't have California driver's licenses, Foreman said. The police officers called the Border Patrol, who arrived at the stadium and made the arrests, he said. Foreman said the immigrants admitted they were Mexican citizens and that they were stealing.

Border Patrol agents are not looking for illegal immigrants at the center but will continue responding to police calls for assistance.

"We are not in any means at Qualcomm for enforcement capacity," he said. "We are not there to take advantage of a situation."

Foreman said the agents have been helping in the evacuation and rescue effort in addition to carrying out their main duties.

"We are dedicated to our primary mission to securing our borders," he said.

-- Anna Gorman

A person breaks into your house intent on taking your stuff...presumably to improve their quality of life at your expense.

How is that different than a person breaking into your country intent on doing the exact same thing?

Answer...it's NOT different.

Moderator, I think its time to shut this one down.

The funny thing is? I'll get told to cool it for calling this what it is, the ranting of a violent minded kook. But he won't get called for advocating maiming and killing of people. Now, which is whack?

You are defending criminals who are hurting this country. Why don't you sponsor the illegals, use your money. I work to hard for mine to give it away to criminals. If they are caught in the act of looting a home, they should be punished.:mad:

Learn to recognize tongue-in-cheek/sarcasm.

Firefighters are true heroes. I count a number of them among my friends. They would be as disgusted as I am by some of the comments here suggesting that they give preferential treatment to ANYONE! All they care about is saving lives, ALL lives, and they risk theirs doing that the best they can and will NEVER turn away from saving one life to save another!

And, no, I don't defend ANYone looting, illegal imigrant or otherwise. Gee, is it rally "AHA! Suspicions confirmed! Some illegal immigrants will commit crimes just like other people!" Gimme a break - of course!

I also strongly support the volunteers who are making headlines patrolling the border to try to help the border patrol stop illegal immigration. Our govt. should be ashamed that their laxity has led to this.

Sammy - yup - and so's the NYTimes. What about the Wasnington Post or the Christian Science Monitor?

Point is, read as many as you can and try to develop an INFORMED opinion based on more than the info in one paper - especially such a low grade paper as the S. D. Trib (regardless of its particular political bias).

ALL papers have their biases (as do all people). I prefer to try to figure out what mine are by reading as many sides of issues as I can and then THINKING a bit rather than latching on to a sloganistic existence and being perpetually angry and/or unhappy for the rest of my life because the world just aint the way I want it to be.

Vilifying illegal immigrants serves no purpose whatsoever as far as dealing with the illegal immigration problem. Most all of us hate to see the invasion of our country from the South! OK! RIGHT! Now, what do we DO to solve the problem? I'm really not asking bottom feeders this question - they've already given their answer here.

Darsicko did you learn you fair and balanced approach from Fox News?

All have committed crimes, that is why they are called illegal

and I'm for punishing anyone committing a crime:mad:

Uh no. I never suggested shooting anyone who fell out of status. Those who BREAK IN were never in status and never intended to be and for breaking in probably never would be able to be in status.

Tabsicko do you often answer questions with questions? Fox Noise! Are you drinking while posting? To not think that plugging illegals as they come over the border is an unbalanced viewpoint? Ohhh, the humanity!

I'm seldom clear whether you jest or whether you are serious - I guess I'm not that clever...or you aren't (One liners can be difficult).

I would like to know the answer re the paintings, though. I'll have to look up the thread and see if the answer is there yet.

I don't think all illegal border crossers should be shot, but they should know they can be shot. As it is, they literally have nothing to fear other than the harsh desert. There are zero consequences for ignoring our immigration laws. Border Patrol agents have to fear going to prison for doing anything more than catching and releasing. I can't imagine a more thankless job. Why do they even carry guns? Just changing the policy so that Border Patrol agents CAN use deadly force would slow the problem to a trickle. One or two examples would dry the problem up completely. I've been to plenty of countries' border regions where there was no doubt whatsoever of the consequences for crossing that line. And I didn't even think about it.

That is what I have been saying. People seem to have no problem over looking the fact that they are breaking the law:mad:

do you know that the countries these folks come here from deport people for doing what these folks do in our country? And nobody gives it a second thought. But somehow, braking the law here is ok and saying otherwise is 'not ok'. this is what the our nation has come to, cowing ourselves so that we feel better about ourselves and so that those who don't have our national interests in mind, can manipulate them. Our founders must be very proud, oh wait I almost forgot, they were all racist jerks, opps.

Yes it is, or they would not be coming in the dead of night.

They know they are breaking the law, but think it is okay because their country gives them written instructions how to do it and says it is okay, and folks like you in this country say it is okay too.

Point is: someone who walks across the border w/o permission is illegal and should therefore be shot - according to your earlier post.

Compare this person to someone who scams their way into the US (by whatever means), and doesn't do the paperwork absolutely right and is therefore also "illegal"; i.e., they are not there legally.

As a matter of law, both are in country illegally and both are in the same boat.

But according to you, the person in the first example should be shot; while the person in the second example should not be shot - at least not yet - because they might just be your newly wedded wife.

Can you appreciate just how ridiculous this position of yours is?

Dottore, where do you live? I need to come get your 88 Carrera to put in my garage, that is okay right? You have it and I don't, so to be fair you have to give it to me, as I am poor and disadvantaged, with only a four cylinder Porsche. You can keep the newer car, so there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Is Friday good for you?

I think you're missing the point.

I'm talking to someone who thinks it's right to shoot people just because they're on the the wrong side of some arbitrary line, and yet then go ahead and marry someone who did a bit of smart paperwork to get across that very same line, and think that's all right, thank you very much.

Sorry, but I believe that you have to be a moral/intellectual pygmy to think that way.

No offense Rick - but I think you have issues.

I see sick people.

Just sent you a pm.

Now, I'm not in favor of undocumented immigration by any means. I think they should be deported but before they can be called criminals they have to be convicted of a crime and by and large these folks haven't.

They are allegedly here illegally, until they is a trial and a conviction they are just undocumented.

Where are your American sensibilities Racer?

It's funny how the gov't is losing are tax dollars on the #$%^ illegals while we are spending much more in Iraq.

Let's make sure these tax dollars can go to a country 99% of us will never visit.

Yeaayy!!!!!

Some disgustingly sick MFs if you ask me. Would any of you put a "welcome, come on in & don't bother knocking'" sign in front of your house, and then shoot anyone who entered? That's essentially what your hero GWB has done, despite what the laws state, and now you want to KILL them? It seems to me that some of you guys would like to take the mantra from our disgusting past: "The only good "injun" is a dead "injun", replace "injun" with "illegal alien", and some of you would be delighted. I'm not at all in favor of illegal entry, but look no further than the the current administration's policies for the REAL source of this problem imo. They are coming accross the borders (and on airplanes) in droves because Bush's policies (and the special business interests) have essentially laid out the "welcome mat" for them. Should we also shoot "professionals", college students, etc. whose temporary visas have expired? Damn, my day is off to a great start after reading some of this stuff...

Maybe they should sue the Mexican govt. 'Cause in their instructions about how to illegally sneak into the USA they left out, "Eef ju see a lot of smoke, run like Speedy Gonzales or your wetback ass will be "al carbon."

I don't want to shoot all illegal border crossers. But use of deadly force should be authorized so people start taking the border seriously. The signs and fences are more of a joke than 55mph speed limit signs on our roads.

And Dottore, whether one makes a mistake on their paperwork is not remotely comparable to those who don't ever intend to even try to do the paperwork and break in via the desert. I never said anything about shooting all illegals. I said it should be authorized for the Border Patrol to defend the border with deadly force. That's got nothing to do with people who came here 100% legally and then fell out of status because of some bureacratic snafu, usually through no fault of their own. Bottom line is that such people came here legally and made good-faith efforts to stay here legally. Those coming in through the desert have no such intentions and are the most blatant of lawbreakers.