Interesting Social Security Calculations

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Seahawk the system is not broken, it is corrupt. until congress learns to keep their grubby paws off our money we are screwed.
They use it as a pork grab bag and I can't stop that.
What am I supposed to do? Ranting about it won't help. I vote for people with more fiscal responsibility but they rarely win the election. Instead the idiots I am forced to share this state with vote for vultures like feinstein and boxer who spend our money in a way that make Paris and Brittney look like cheapskates.
I write to my congressional and senate representatives, they don't listen.

So instead of being a perpetual victim I decide to be self-reliant and prosperous.
I deal with the issue in the most productive and logical way I know how.
In the end, I will be well off and those who do not save will be crying themselves to sleep in a cardboard box blaming others for their misfortune when they could have prevented it and did nothing. Which situation would you rather be in?

As I have stated, I don't need SS, never will...but your giving up in the face of a certain crisis is weak. The most logical and productive way is to work towards change. Whine about it all you want.

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Again...wtf

The system is broken, must be fixed...not for you and Sammy but for those who would benefit most.

I will never use SS other than as yet another investment source...so what.

I am only giving advise to a young guy just getting out in the world.


Depend of the government to help you and you'll be in a rut.

Make plans at a young age to take care of yourself and you'll be fine.

I agree its broken and its in the governments hands to fix it which means it will stay broke.

Trillions can be spent to free Iraqi's but our baby boomers are going to be left out in the cold.

All Politicians are corrupt and they will never fix it.

[Wickd89]

SS sucks.
My mom was getting her check and then they told her that her company retirement was too high and they reduced her SS Check. My dad died, and because she was a county employee, they said she did not qualify for his portion; they kept that.

And because they did a small error for around 6 months, they are not paying her until it is reversed. No money period.

If she were alone, the government would definitely have killed her!

I am 20 years away from hitting my 62 retirement age, but I hope to start collecting at 67 and take the larger monthly amount. Now I have to figure how to keep alive from 62 to 67!!

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

As I have stated, I don't need SS, never will...but your giving up in the face of a certain crisis is weak. The most logical and productive way is to work towards change. Whine about it all you want.

Wow, where did that come from?
You brought it up, not me.
I already stated that I do things about it, more than most people do. I write to my congressmen on a regular basis and I vote for fiscal responsibility. How can you call that giving up?
What else would you have me do, a terrorist act or something? Walking around with a sign so everyone can think i'm a lefty wacko?
Maybe ranting and raving about it so everyone knows that I'm pissed about it? Lots of good that will do.
As long as there are greedy libs who want something for nothing, there will be people in government willing to give it to them in exchange for votes. The only place they can easily steal the money to give to those who don't deserve it is SS.

The solution is to stop giving away money to those who don't at least try to earn it. Then they will either have to knuckle down or starve, either way is fine with me but the bleeding heart left would never let that happen.
They want to turn this country into a socialist or communist state where everyone gets an even share even though they don't contribute. That might sound good on paper but if you take away the incentive to get ahead, the very small percentage of people who support everyone else will stop trying. Then you will have nothing. You can't steal from the rich if you eliminate the rich.
With no rich, everyone will be poor.

[stevepaa]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

They want to turn this country into a socialist or communist state where everyone gets an even share even though they don't contribute. That might sound good on paper but if you take away the incentive to get ahead, the very small percentage of people who support everyone else will stop trying. Then you will have nothing. You can't steal from the rich if you eliminate the rich.
With no rich, everyone will be poor.

No one ever talks about taking incentive away. Another tin hat gross generalization.

There is no small group that supports everyone else. It is the spenders who support the US economy and from which we all are supported. And the spenders are all the average people buying groceries, gas, appliances, haircuts, etc. Why do you think Bush told everyone to just go out and spend? He did not want a depression along with a war.

The last statement is ludicrous. " With no rich, everyone will be poor". What a joke. So you magically make all the money in the economy disappear?

[rammstein]

Originally Posted by Wickd89

SS sucks.
My mom was getting her check and then they told her that her company retirement was too high and they reduced her SS Check. My dad died, and because she was a county employee, they said she did not qualify for his portion; they kept that.

And because they did a small error for around 6 months, they are not paying her until it is reversed. No money period.

If she were alone, the government would definitely have killed her!

I am 20 years away from hitting my 62 retirement age, but I hope to start collecting at 67 and take the larger monthly amount. Now I have to figure how to keep alive from 62 to 67!!

Can you imagine putting the federal government in charge of more? Health Insurance? Good god, imaging socialist paradise now! Glad to hear that in spite of the government's best attempts, your mom has pulled through.

[Jim Bremner]

the scariest words in the English language, : Hi I'm from the government, I'm here to help"

Government always finds a need for the money it gets

Ronald Reagan

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I am so tired of my tax and SS dollars being used to support special interest programs and government leeches. There is obviously a problem with our dollars being used on a national basis, when our country is so regionalized when it comes to demographics, interests, social programs, etc. I would think one fix might be to capsulate the funds on a state-by-state basis. This way, you could choose to live in a conservative or liberal state and contribute your dollars appropriately. For example, Billings Montana just last week was reported to have the lowest personal debt of any city in the U.S. Imagine that, a little town of 100,000 people in Montana behaving responsibly. I wouldn't feel so bad paying into SS for the state of Montana when I know it's residents are serious about fiscal responsibility. On the other hand, I have paid into SS while living in California for the past 23 years. I wonder if my investment in the state of California was handled responsibly?