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K. Roman 12-16-2007 10:42 AM

Mitt wept when church ended discrimination!
 
“I can remember when I heard about the change being made. I was driving home from — I think it was law school, but I was driving home — going through the Fresh Pond rotary in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I heard it on the radio and I pulled over and literally wept.

“Even to this day, it’s emotional,” Romney went on...:D


Sorry for the swipe, but I woke up and saw this on Drudge Report and litterally laughed!

what BS!

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 10:53 AM

I went down to the rotary (live 5 minutes away) and stood at the very spot he pulled over.

I wept as well.

or was that sleet?

I was for this man a few months ago based on his business acumen alone. been disappointed ever since.

lendaddy 12-16-2007 11:02 AM

Romney is a douche. That's the guy you like right Shaun? And you think Thompson is manufactured? :D

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 3649100)
Romney is a douche. That's the guy you like right Shaun? And you think Thompson is manufactured? :D

Exactly Joel. see above. Months ago I really liked the guy, he's certainly a great businessman. But since then he's disappointed me at every turn. I've been officially anti-Romney for a month now.

the difference is that Romney re-manufactured himself. Thompson is a product of a marketing committee, more of a ragdoll than anything else.

As I said back then, I also like the Huckabee fellow, but his denial of Evolution is a non-starter. Pretty slim pickings.

K. Roman 12-16-2007 11:16 AM

I'm still not sure who I'm for, but check this out. Romney on video.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=14824

:D

Neilk 12-16-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649111)

As I said back then, I also like the Huckabee fellow, but his denial of Evolution is a non-starter. Pretty slim pickings.

How about his '98 article where he says that Jesus is the answer to our problems?

1fastredsc 12-16-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649111)
Pretty slim pickings.

I'm already preparing myself for the inevitable, choosing the lesser of two evils come election time. Which evil is lesser i'm not sure of yet, because it will depend on who gets the nomination on both sides.

MRM 12-16-2007 11:56 AM

What's wrong with McCain? Very pro military, took huge hits for promoting the surge. Now that that the surge is working maybe it's time to take a second look at him

the 12-16-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 3649126)
How about his '98 article where he says that Jesus is the answer to our problems?

Wouldn't any real Christian, who is being HONEST, say pretty much the same thing?

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3649195)
Wouldn't any real Christian, who is being HONEST, say pretty much the same thing?

As a pastor or in a Christian theocracy, absolutely.

In the context of political leadership in the U.S....not so much.

put In God We Trust on money, insert "under God" in The Pledge, heck, hang the 10 Commandments on the wall in government buildings, I don't care.

But don't tell me Jesus is the answer to our problems.

the 12-16-2007 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649210)
As a pastor or in a Christian theocracy, absolutely.

In the context of political leadership in the U.S....not so much.

I thought all good Christians looked to Jesus for answers, I didn't know Jesus only gave answers in certain contexts.

JCF 12-16-2007 03:31 PM

Romney - yeah a great business man - like all snake oil salesmen.
Make a good Sec. of Commerce.

Guiliani is good in a crisis but a kook.
Ask'em about him in NYC. - Start with the Firefighters.
Sec of Defence maybe.

I am starting to like McCain more and more.
Don't always agree with him , but I trust his motives.

Olympia Snowe for VP.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3649566)
I thought all good Christians looked to Jesus for answers, I didn't know Jesus only gave answers in certain contexts.

Well, now you do. Just like Federalism, what is good for one religion and followers thereof may not be good for another. So when struggling with your own personal faults, Jesus may be your answer. For the Jew, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist next to you, he may not be their answer.

Like I said, and I don't think I could be any more clear. Political leaders turning to Jesus for answers works great in a Christian theocracy. For the U.S., not so much.

here's an example: George Bush said that Jesus told him to invade Iraq. Understand now?

lendaddy 12-16-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649620)
here's an example: George Bush said that Jesus told him to invade Iraq. Understand now?

Just when I think you're borderline rational you go and expose yourself:D

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 3649642)
Just when I think you're borderline rational you go and expose yourself:D

He gave an interview to the BBC. His words. (or maybe God's, can't be sure):D

lendaddy 12-16-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649646)
He gave an interview to the BBC. His words. (or maybe God's, can't be sure):D

No he didn't and you know better. That's the claim of someone that translated a translation in the middle east. It's complete BS and in no way fits with any past comments. Even MoveOn knows that's bull.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-16-2007 04:09 PM

LOL! C'mon, don't take all the fun out!:D:D:D

the 12-16-2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3649620)
Well, now you do. Just like Federalism, what is good for one religion and followers thereof may not be good for another. So when struggling with your own personal faults, Jesus may be your answer. For the Jew, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist next to you, he may not be their answer.

Like I said, and I don't think I could be any more clear. Political leaders turning to Jesus for answers works great in a Christian theocracy. For the U.S., not so much.

here's an example: George Bush said that Jesus told him to invade Iraq. Understand now?

Jesus was just some dude to me, I can't look to him for answers for my own personal faults because he's not here.

I didn't say that political leaders turning to Jesus works well in the U.S.

But I didn't realize that a Christian who lived in a Christian theocracy would look to Jesus for answers, but then "turn it off" and not look to Jesus in the U.S. That wasn't my understanding of how Christianity worked, I always thought it was more universal (principals don't change depending on the political environment). Either Jesus gives guidance and answers to tough questions to his followers, or he doesn't.

Rick Lee 12-16-2007 04:33 PM

I'll never forgive McCain for his campaign finance reform law or support for amnesty for illegals.

I'm bothered by Huckabee being a Jesus nut too. But I don't see how his belief in evolution is any more far out than Hillary's or Obama's belief in communism.

lendaddy 12-17-2007 04:13 AM

I agree Wayne, the guy has always held the same views and those views resonate.

Regarding Shaun thinking he's manufactured by committee...whose committee? There is almost zero institutional support, itjust doesn't hold water or frankly even make sense.


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