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lonewolf 12-22-2007 06:51 PM

this is strange .can connect to pelican but know where else
 
any computer or internet specialists out there?
i came home from shopping and went to check my email but could not connect.
i thought my wireless was down again but I can connect to the pelican site and search around with no issues.

I can't connect to google or any other shortcut i have .
i can't connect to my outlook account .allways get the same message.
page cannot be displayed,cannot find server. no matter where I try it's the same message.

this has never happened before and I can't figure out why the bird site is the only one it will connect to.
does that make sence to anyone?
I have dialup as backup but we know what thats like . on dialup i can connect to everywhere no problem other than being dialup slow.

stumped . any ideas?

slodave 12-22-2007 06:54 PM

Try this:
Click Start > Run.
Enter ipconfig /flushdns in the Open: textbox.
Hit OK.

lonewolf 12-22-2007 06:57 PM

tried , got the message connot find the file

slodave 12-22-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonewolf (Post 3661656)
tried , got the message connot find the file

Huh, worked for me. What OS?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 07:02 PM

XP
When on dialup everything is fine . unfortunately someone has sent me some pics in an email and by seeing how slow it's dowloading they are probably big and will take hours to download on dialup so checking email is out for now .

slodave 12-22-2007 07:04 PM

If it's XP, the file has to be there. Copy this:
ipconfig /flushdns

Paste it into the "Run" box and hit OK. There's no way, that ipconfig is not on your system.

lonewolf 12-22-2007 07:23 PM

same thing " cannot find file (or one of it's componets) make sure the path and file name are correct

slodave 12-22-2007 07:35 PM

OK,

In the run box, type "cmd" and hit OK. A black box should appear. In that box, type ipconfig, hit enter and report back.

Dave

lonewolf 12-22-2007 07:41 PM

same message

i clicked out of here a minute ago and tried google and few others but won't connect.
came back here and connected instantly

slodave 12-22-2007 07:47 PM

Have you tried a reboot?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 07:51 PM

oh ya , rebooted 3 times and ran every repair program I have before posting here

slodave 12-22-2007 07:54 PM

What are you running for a firewall? Can you turn it off for 5 minutes and see if that fixes things?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 07:58 PM

no firewall

I don't understand why i can connect here and nowhere else when on wireless.
If i switch off and go dialup everything is fine but on wireless pelican is the only site i can connect to .

slodave 12-22-2007 08:01 PM

Have you tried to unplug the wireless router, let it sit for about 5 minutes, then plug back in (to wall)?

Dave

lonewolf 12-22-2007 08:06 PM

I did unplug it ,not for 5 min ,maybe 1.
but is it the wireless?,my reciever outside is fully lit up and I can connect here.

slodave 12-22-2007 08:16 PM

Can't say. Just trying to relay to you, the things I'd do if I we're there.

I'd still try and unplug your DSL/Cable modem and any other router/wiress AP for about 5 mins. If it is a cable modem, plug that in first, then any other router/AP.

Dave

robs944 12-22-2007 08:17 PM

Hey guys,
This may be a pre-existing problem from a update or corrupt file???

Copy and paste the text below in your run box and click ok

%SystemRoot%\system32\cmd

do you get the same error?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 08:32 PM

Dave ,tried 5min ,no change
rob tried ,got same error message

slodave 12-22-2007 08:36 PM

Right click on "My Computer", select "Manage". Double click on "Event Viewer", select "System". Any errors?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 08:42 PM

no

robs944 12-22-2007 08:42 PM

ok, if you are getting that error it sounds like you are missing the file, or it's not in the correct location.

can you launch the command prompt by going to
Start > Programs > Accessories >

If you still get an error then do a file search for cmd.exe and see if it finds it.

lonewolf 12-22-2007 08:48 PM

i can go to start,program,acce, then what?

slodave 12-22-2007 08:50 PM

Look for "Command Prompt" and select it.

Dave

robs944 12-22-2007 08:50 PM

do you see command prompt?

lonewolf 12-22-2007 08:59 PM

no

i left the house for 2 hours and it was fine ,come home doesn't work,no-one else hear to screw with it .
pc is just sitting here i don't understand what could have happened ,has work fine for years,never had this problem before.
was online from 6ampst till 4pm and was fine. then went out

why will it only connect here and no-where else?

slodave 12-22-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonewolf (Post 3661815)
why will it only connect here and no-where else?

It's a sign!

But really, we're trying to help. It's not always easy to diagnose these issues.

Dave

robs944 12-22-2007 09:12 PM

Did you leave it up and running, connected to the internet while you were out?

Possible software updates were installed that could be causing this, or virus.
Do you have Anti Virus software running?

Did you do a file search for cmd.exe?
Short of manually restoring files that don't appear to be there, maybe running system restore would be the quickest fix.



I'll say it now before someone else jumps in "a mac wouldn't have this problem"

I have nothing against mac's, but microsoft = employment for me ;)

lonewolf 12-22-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robs944 (Post 3661826)
Did you leave it up and running, connected to the internet while you were out?

Possible software updates were installed that could be causing this, or virus.
Do you have Anti Virus software running?

Did you do a file search for cmd.exe?
Short of manually restoring files that don't appear to be there, maybe running system restore would be the quickest fix.



I'll say it now before someone else jumps in "a mac wouldn't have this problem"

I have nothing against mac's, but microsoft = employment for me ;)

yes it was on when i left and msn mess window was open. i leave it on to get email alerts and forgot to tuen off when i left.
AVG is allways running
been thinking about a mac for sure for some time now.
whether it is only to boost sales or what ,lets face it microsoft,2000,NT,office,vista even XP all have problems, Macs ,At least the ones I know of just don't

now it's getting slower, and i"m pissed off
I don't want to take up anymore of your time tonight .I appreciate the effort.

robs944 12-22-2007 09:38 PM

I agree most MS products have there share of "issues", if it's getting slower it might be sypware/virus related, we could try a hundred different things but may still end up with the same issue.
If I was working on this for someone I would try the system restore, it is kind of a shotgun approach but you'll consume more time troubleshooting this issue (others may exist as well).

System Restore:
Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore

Check "restore my computer to an earlier time"
At the calendar window the restore dates will be in bold text
Click on the restore date/time when you know everything was working
Click "Next"
Confirm your selection by clicking "Next" again

Your pc will start to restore then reboot automatically, after the reboot it will tell you if it was successful or not. If the restore date/time didn't work you can always go back and select another restore point.

Good luck with it, your in good hands with Dave if he's still online.
I just finished wrapping presents and it's after 1:30 AM EST I'm going into sleep mode.

If problems are still there tomorrow (Sunday) let us know.

Night

slodave 12-22-2007 09:48 PM

I'm up for a little bit longer. Try what Rob said above.

KFC911 12-23-2007 04:38 AM

Go into a cmd window as above and type in NSLOOKUP, then enter Pelicanparts.com and an address will be returned (for me it's 66.236.61.165) and note it, then type in google.com (64.233.187.99 is the first address returned for me) and note it. Now open up a browser window and try both of these "native addresses" (instead of google.com) and let us know what happens. You don't appear to have a Windows issue, but some sort of DNS or IP routing issue from my perspective or else Wayne has "taken over the entire Internet" :).

widgeon13 12-23-2007 05:54 AM

do a system restore and see what happens! Can't hurt.

KFC911 12-23-2007 06:21 AM

From my perspective, if he can access Pelican with no problems, then his "system" is healthy, and I personally would not amputate an arm due to a hangnail. I highly recommend eliminating potential DNS or IP routing issues (which are not unique to Windows, and can occur on all operating systems, including Macs) before breaking out the BFH unless you just like to "whack" things :).

lonewolf 12-23-2007 07:00 AM

Guys , just got up ,turned it on and is working fine. only thing I did was run defrag when i went to bed..it was down to 66% (not defragmented) which is one of the lower numbers I have seen. my auto fix utilities run overnight but none show any problem.
I never bookmarked anything, did not use restore.
I tend to agree with Kevin.if i could get into pelican then the system must be ok. I don't like taking drastic measures untill it is a last resort.
Virus scans overnight and found nothing.I ran and do run Adaware every morning.
So i will see how the day goes. I don't want to start the day getting frustrated trying to figure what it may have been. I did nothing yesterday on the PC that I don't do everyday so it makes me think of an old car problem I had 25 years ago. when I went into a shop and told the owner of the problem , he said ,"has it happened since" and I said no . so he said "don't worry about it then" So for now that's what I'll do here.
To everyone who took the time, at this very time restricted time of year to help me out I truely appreciate it . You are all Gentleman, Thankyou .

robs944 12-23-2007 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 3662125)
From my perspective, if he can access Pelican with no problems, then his "system" is healthy, and I personally would not amputate an arm due to a hangnail. I highly recommend eliminating potential DNS or IP routing issues (which are not unique to Windows, and can occur on all operating systems, including Macs) before breaking out the BFH unless you just like to "whack" things :).

His browsing problems very well could be DNS not able to resolve to IP, but from his earlier posts he can't access his command prompt to repair DNS, he gets "cannot find file (or one of it's components) make sure the path and file name are correct" error message when trying to run cmd, ipconfig, etc. Command prompt is not listed in his programs list, I never heard if he found anything doing a file search for cmd.exe, so I am assuming that the file is missing or misplaced. A DNS problem would not cause this.

A windows system restore is not that drastic, probably the best utility MS has included with the o/s, I'm sure you know that you can spend hours/days fixing this issue but others may be present as well. Sure you can replace individual files from the CD or i386 directory but who's to say that is his only problem.

Of course another way to flush your DNS cache would be to do a "repair" on your network connection. :)

EDIT: I was typing when you responded, glad to hear it's working.

Merry Xmas everyone!

cstreit 12-23-2007 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 3661921)
ALL YOUR SITE ARE BELONG TO US!

I'm guessing that you bookmarked Pelican at the IP address instead of the name, and you have a DNS problem now.

-Wayne


Yup. Call your internet provider. Tell them you can connect to IP addresses but regular addresses are not being resolved. To verify try:

http://64.233.167.147/

If this goes to google, your DNS isn't working.

lonewolf 12-23-2007 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 3662170)
Yup. Call your internet provider. Tell them you can connect to IP addresses but regular addresses are not being resolved. To verify try:

http://64.233.167.147/

If this goes to google, your DNS isn't working.

Hi Chris.
I never bookmarked anything. when I hit that URL it does go to google instantly.what should happen? my desktop is full of shortcuts I put on there and I hit those to go to the respected sites. been working for years that way.

cstreit 12-23-2007 07:43 AM

Well i see above that you're working so it's a moot point I guess...

But here's the deal.

DNS is what takes a typed address such as http://www.google.com and translates it into an IP address (the physical address of the server). You computer will often cache these translations locally.

So if your DNS server went down at your internet providers location, and address you typed in wouldn't get resolved and would error out like you saw. However those addresses which were cached locally would still work because your computer retained the IP.

So they probably fixed their DNS server overnight. If it happes again, try that link I gave you. If you still error out, your connection is down. If it goes to google, your DNS server is down.

lonewolf 12-23-2007 07:58 AM

Ok I understand what you are saying Chris. That could be a possiblity because my provider has had issues over the past few weeks. Pelican is the site I visit more than any other so perhaps it was saved. last night on dialup everything worked fine so I tended to think my system was ok but because it would connect to pelican when on wireless obviously part of the wireless service had to be working and that was the confusing part.

KFC911 12-23-2007 08:02 AM

Glad it's resolved! Hindsight being 20/20, obviously your "problem" was not with your pc, but with your ISP, DNS server, or potentially an IP routing issue. I just approach things logically, knowing how things "should" work, and follow the trail to whereever it leads, without getting sidetracked on non-related issues that only seem to "compound" the problem for many. Happy surfing!!!


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