Originally Posted by idontknow (Post 3667117)

One more thing, can we please move past this so I may be entertained by political banter and vitriol!

Originally Posted by idontknow (Post 3667117)

I believe his point was this:

From http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221011.html
"we're going to have kind of a nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not"

From http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/10/11/politics/main240442.shtml
"we're going to have kind of a nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not"

From http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/2000debates/2ndebate2.html
"I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not."

Something close, it's a transcript of Al Gore's speech "Iraq and the War On Terrorism" where corps was used instead of core. Note: this website says in versus from after corps. From http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2002/iraq-020923-gore01.htm

"If we end the war in Iraq, the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today. When Secretary Rumsfield was asked recently about what our responsibility for restabilizing Iraq would be in an aftermath of an invasion, he said, "that's for the Iraqis to come together and decide."

During one of the campaign debates in 2000 when then Governor Bush was asked if America should engage in any sort of "nation building" in the aftermath of a war in which we have involved our troops, he stated gave the purist expression of what is now a Bush doctrine: "I don't think so. I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I'm missing something here. We're going to have a kind of nation building corps in America? Absolutely not."

The events of the last 85 years provide ample evidence that our approach to winning the peace that follows war is almost as important as winning the war itself. The absence of enlightened nation building after World War I led directly to the conditions which made Germany vulnerable to fascism and the rise to Adolph Hitler and made all of Europe vulnerable to his evil designs. By contrast the enlightened vision embodied in the Marshall plan, NATO, and the other nation building efforts in the aftermath of World War II led directly to the conditions that fostered prosperity and peace for most the years since this city gave birth to the United Nations. "

Now, should that not indicate to you that Gov. Bush said "korz" since it IS listed in 3 other news websites as "Maybe I'm missing something here. I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation building corps from America? Absolutely not."

One more thing, can we please move past this so I may be entertained by political banter and vitriol!

Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667080)

Okay then, so in the context of how it was written in the transcript by the CDC on this website http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000b.html (it's still there by the way) should that not indicate to you that Gov. Bush said "kor" since it IS listed as "Maybe I'm missing something here. I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation building core from America? Absolutely not."

That was my point.

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 3667175)

What dimension are you from where that would make any sense at all? That would be like saying you served in the Marine Core instead of Marine Corps...The singular version of "corps" is spelled "corps" and is pronounced the same as "core"... Since "corps" makes sense in the sentence and "core" does not...why on earth would you assume "core" is correct just because you found it misspelled in one place...even though it was correctly spelled as "corps" in most other transcripts...including the one by the interviewer/moderator?

Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667187)

Then you tell me why the Commission on Presidential Debates, who conducted the 2000 debate where Bush made the statement, would still have it listed that way on their website and in the transcript?

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 3667191)

Because both words are pronounced exactly the same...like "or" and "ore." LIke "right" and "write" or "there" and "their" or "two" and "too." The person doing the transcription for CDC either didn't realize what the correct word was by the usage or simply was not listening critically. Pretty much everyone else got it right. I just listened to the tape of the debate and the word is pronounced perfectly.

Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667195)

I have never listened to the tape. Does he say "kor" or "korz" as you hear it?

BTW, "perfectly" is not a word that you often hear when describing Mr. Bush's grammatical or speaking skills. Gosh, "nuclear" still has him confused.

However, you could be right and perhaps Gov. Bush was not as linguistically challenged back in 2000. ;)

Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667195)

However, you could be right and perhaps Gov. Bush was not as linguistically challenged back in 2000. ;)

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 3667209)

The President pronounces the word "corps" as the singular \ˈkȯr\ which is correct since the rest of the sentence is clearly singular ("a kind of nation building corps in America?").

The plural version of "corps" and "core" (spelled "corps" and "cores") are pronounced as \ˈkȯrz\

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 3667212)

Nucular? Nuclear? Unclear (to George)?

I can't help but think that his refusal to say nuclear as opposed to nucular is simply another example of his pugnacious stubbornness.

Originally Posted by K. Roman (Post 3667228)

If you read WI Wide Body's posts, which are great, no sarcasm, but imagine Triumph the Insult Comic Dog's voice, then this thread will absolutely rock your world!!!
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Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667219)

Well, actually he was "the Gov." back when he said that.

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 3668130)

Yes, but since he is the President now, that is how it is appropriate to refer to him. Even when you are discussing things that happened previously.

Originally Posted by Moneyguy1 (Post 3668184)

Fellas....

The pi$$ing contest has been called off because the horse you all have been beating is dead.

Originally Posted by K. Roman (Post 3668301)

Wide Body is owning this thread.

Originally Posted by WI wide body (Post 3667187)

Then you tell me why the Commission on Presidential Debates, who conducted the 2000 debate where Bush made the statement, would still have it listed that way on their website and in the transcript?

Originally Posted by idontknow (Post 3668565)

How would they know it's wrong if there's no way to tell them?