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Maybe time for an update, after the calamity lately. I think I'm back at square one.
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Ask and ye shall receive!
PPOT Port as of close 09/17/2008: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1221687006.jpg I still think the PPOT Port is beating the S&P! |
If I was around when this thread started, I would have said Yamana gold (apparently a very bad choice), Barrick Gold (ABX), which was also a bad choice, and Silverado (pink sheets, SLGLF), a horrible choice. Since then, I've lost almost everything I had in Silverado (all of $100!! WooHoo!!) and lost about 10% in my other gold stocks, which I cashed out to buy the 911. I consider the car to be a better investment than the stocks right now ;)
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And I'm in the lead with my PPOT bear short fund:)
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Crap! And I'm listening to you guys? I can loose money that fast without the "Brain Trusts" help.
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How about an update?
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But as Dylan said, "For the loser now will be later to win . . . " I'll post the updated chart later today. Best, |
Here's the close for 10/09/2008:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1223583802.jpg YTD, SP is off 38% Best, |
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Yea! My pick is winning! GSS is down the most! Wait. Were we trying to pick stocks to buy or short? :( The year isn't over yet. I just bought more GSS last week. The governments' (worldwide) printing presses are running full blast; I'm still confident that gold will skyrocket and miners like Golden Star will rebound dramatically.... ....it might not be this year, but later in 2009. |
You had the same idea I had with Yamana gold. Since you had to pick a stock to be in the contest, my only criteria was "what will do best/least worst when we are in full economic meltdown mode?" My first thought was gold.
Apparently, stock in gold mining companies does not very closely follow the price of gold! You'd think that when the price of their commodity/products goes through the roof, the price of their stock would rise, but I guess that's not the case. |
I admit it's nothing more than my sizable gut but I still think gold will ultimately prove to be a suckers bet. It just makes so little sense to me as a wealth parking vehicle that I have to believe a new standard will emerge and people will be stuck with their shiny metal.
Anyone know what the institutional vs private ownership numbers are on gold as compared to say 50 years ago? It's been marketed so incredibly hard to Joe Blow over the last ten years or so that I get the feeling the institutions are unloading. Hey, we all get one crackpot theory :D |
I agree. I think money can be made in gold, but only because it fluctuates in price, and you'd have to somehow figure out how to buy low and sell high. Just like any commodity, I guess.
And, apparently even worse than gold, is stock in a gold mining company. But I'm with you. I would never buy gold myself. I don't think your theory is crackpot, I think gold is for crackpots! (Remember, during the last big "gold rush," gold was at $800 in 1980. If you bought at that time, it took almost 30 years to get back to that. |
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I'm hoping you just lack an understanding of what "money" is. When you have a few minutes, I would suggest you read: http://mises.org/story/3122 Gold is the "practical" money; there is nothing "crackpot" about it. |
Compe, perhaps you can enlighten us on the definition of what "money" is. You know, what separates money from barter. If you can do that, perhaps I'll allow Tabs' to engage you in conversation.
I'll give you a hint, "money" has three properties. Name them and you'll define money. Gold is a metal. It has no inherent value. It is valuable because we place value on it. It is also one of the worst historical investments you can make. Factoring for inflation, gold has about another 50% to go before it hits its 1970s-era highs. I can tell you from personal (family) experience, that when the revolution comes and society collapses, gold has no value. After you give us a good definition of money, I'll tell you the story of the gold ingots my wife inherited that made it through the 1930s to 1980s without being spent - in the PRC. |
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