The best tip I can give is be a guy who listens instead of a guy who waits for his turn to talk. You'd be surprised how far the details will get you...

Trust me.

Yes. The Hoff has nothing on me. WTF is a butterfly collar? I'm really not into butterflies. Not that there's anything wrong with butterflies.

Listening does work wonders .

In my single days a seeming lame line worked well for me .

"If I said something about your body would you hold it against me ????"

Golden I tell you .

Golden :D

If on the first date they seem like they may have a tendency to be weird or crazy trust your instincts, and run like hell.

Best line I have heard (never used it)

'' I think I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body"

Any pointers on how to acquire a FB?

Saying from back in college days when walking into the bar, "Go ugly early, beat the rush at the end of the evening."

1. Let her talk, and don't try to sell yourself. (See CJFusco's comment above)
2. Speak quietly and look her in the eye. They really like that, and they move closer to listen.
3. Pay her sincere compliments. Make her laugh after the compliment- that way she doesn't necessarily have to respond.
4. Reassure her.
5. Tell her about something sad that made you cry. You will be surprised at how many points that scores.
6. Defend her. They like that too.
7. Remember: The crazy ones are crazy in the sack too, but they will mess with your head and ruin you before you know it!
8. Read books about chicks. Dr. Deborah Tannen, Gary Smalley, John Gray and Willard Harley are all good.

All the above are based on my experience; your milage may vary. But they worked for me!

Cheers,

Paul.

Never, every try. Just be.

Listening is a good idea. I'll have to try that sometime.

..don't be afraid of a little self deprecating humor; i.e., don't take yourself so seriously. Tell her you were a carney in your younger days...every woman was once a teenager who fantasized about doing the skinny young guy with the tatoos in the straw cowboy hat who ran the tilt-a-whirl.

...always have an extra toothbrush or two (new, stoopid) in your medicine cabinet. Have a fresh bar of soap in the shower and on the vanity. Ditto fresh roll of tp. If she is going to take a shower lay out the towels so she doesn't have to snoop. Have a guest bath robe.

...keep a box of tampons (the variety pack with the three different sizes) in the back of your linen closet. This serves many purposes. She may think you're the ultimate boy scout. It keeps you from making a trek to the c-store at 4 a.m. and ultimately buying the wrong product ("Dammit, they're all in a blue box"). Make her wonder....act as if every male keeps a supply. If she should ask you why you have a box of tampons, tell her they're the best disposable shoe polish applicators known to man.

...learn to give good bed; i.e., invest in a feather bed, 4 down pillows, a down comforter and high thread count sheets. Only 100% cotton. Makes em never want to leave on sunday morning...which may not always be a good thing. Good bed=good head.

...sleep on the wet spot...at least during the first two over nighters.

...down play your professional/financial accomplishments.

....never date a woman with mispelled tatoos.

....always have a bottle of inexpensive champagne and at least frozen OJ in the fridge. Even rotgut mimosa's will cheer 'em up in the morning. Toasted plain bagels and cream cheese with some fresh fruit on the side makes a great brunch over the sunday paper...even if you're alone since she slipped out while you were sleeping. Real cloth napkins are a nice touch.

...leave a clean but wrinkled white dress shirt somewhere convenient in your bed room. Nothing like a sleepy eyed woman walking around your place with nothing but that on in the morning.

...rid your cave of all pictures/memorabilia of past relationships. Even if it was the best picture you've ever taken while skiing in Vail 8 years ago with the woman who broke your heart and bank account.

...no matter how great the first few dates are going, hold back a little. Fer chrissakes don't tell her every thing about yourself and your past. Be a little cautious and mysterious.

...Dating in middle age is both wonderful and problematic because the age span of available women is so broad. 22 to 52+ is likely available. I've found if they're between 22 and 32 and the wanna date me they're looking for a daddy or a sugar daddy and I don't wanna be either. If they're between 32 and 42 they've usually just gotten out of a marriage or LTR and there is a certain amount of anger towards men: either their ex was a jerk or abusive or delinquent on child support or their lawyer screwed them over...lotta anger. And if they're 32-42 and haven't been in a marriage or a LTR there's likely a reason...and it usually ain't good. Between 42 and 52+, they've likely come to grips with their hatred of men, got the kids pretty much raised and have establish themselves professionally and are interesting and independent. As a result they set their expectations so high of who they "should" be dating that you'll never be able to live up to their ideal. So....you're screwed no matter which way you go.:D

But it beats the hell outta eating cheetos, watching porn and wonderin' why your johnson has turned orange.

When I was a young man a more experienced man told me that smooth driving skills put a women at ease with you and I've found that to be true .

And all the stuff Wayne said.........


except the
part .

Lies I tell you !

Lies

I didn't know your wife was a member ...........;)

Only put it half way in. Give her something to look forward to.
Don't make her gag on it after dinner.

This one gets my vote for quote-of-the-year!!! LMAOhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo.../gaapslaap.gif

I'm still trying to figure out why this guy is still single at 42 years old. I just don't get it. . .:rolleyes:

Furry ears are also a turn-off:D

I love it. There are so many great posts here! A lot of them are even good advice!

OK, Wife will kill me buttttt:

In ALL that you do, be sincere. If you cannot be sincere with her just walk to the next one.

Be polite and courteous. Use proper manners. Do little things for her. A single rose will go further than nothing at all. A small love note, even if it is an obscure poem you like/wrote, is a gem. Just drop a card saying you had a great time. Shows you will think about them and care enough to spend free time on them.

Be a listener, talk very little and talk mainly about her.

Look into her eyes!! You can watch her breasts later but NEVER acknowledge they exist until much later in the relationship. Remember her eye color and comment on how nice her hair, eyes, etc look. She is always the only one you are watching.

Find women who are interested in what you are interested in. Conversely, find things you both have in common. You don't have to agreeon everything but should agree to disagree.

If you are just going to flirt with the waitress or other person, be VERY obvious in your affection towards the woman WITH you not the new one. Then reassure your date of your interest in her. Tell her how you like her better. Women love to be a better object than the next one.

Don't watch other women. Don't do it, especially if they are hotter than your girl!!! Just don't!!! She will notice this, trust me on this one!

Go with a group of girls, but available.

Don't get stuck on having to have the prettiest, best endowed, tallest, shortest, whatever. You will never get her!! Look out for the quiet girls who want to talk and who think. They WILL rock your world!!! Scientists are fun as are women who LOVE things outdoors. Combine the two...

Older women like attention as well!!! Many are passed over for the younger crowd and they WILL appreciate what you can offer mentally. They will also be in better positions to offer something themselves. Just trust me on this one. Even if you are the decade younger, why should this really matter?

Good hygene is NEVER overrated.

Keep a clean, orderly home. Never show to have financial difficulties. Always pay when appropriate and allow them to pay when it is appropriate.

NEVER say bad things about their friends/family. If the relationship blooms, you will be stuck with these people.

Don't spend time trying to get them into the sack. They will get you there soon enough if you treat them well and it is meant to be.

That's not a tip. It's a confession!

:)

A lot of sound advice, but of no value if you fail in the first 30 seconds, which is all the time it takes for a woman to decide. Sometimes less.

I've never dated a "slab".....I don't think. I always aimed high - usually models. There are 3 things that get you past that 30 second mark and into 30 minutes. You're on your own after that.

1. Massive self-confidence (absolutely not to be confused with arrogance). I don't care what you look like, your chances increase tenfold with self confidence. The mindset you should adopt - "I don't care". If one shoots you down, there's another just across the room. Don't waste time on lost causes or let rejection demoralize you. One trick I used to keep myself "up"- If I got rudely shot down, I went to the next closest girl and tried it on her. It even occassionally works, but the main idea is to shake off the rejection right away. The "I don't care" effect it has also knocks the smugness right off the previous girl which will make you feel better about yourself. I've actually had the "1st" girl approach me later to win me over because she felt demoralized by my indifference. She felt a need to prove herself.

2. Smile and a sense of humor. Nuff said.

3. Create "good" tension. Disagree with her on something light (not world peace or love of kittens). If she says she likes a certain actor, tell her you "So disagree". Cite humerous examples as to why he is less than a man than he should be. It breaks down barriers and creates "good" tension.

If you don't already know to dress nicely, smell good, and in general, maintain yourself, get used to "slabs". No tip will help.

Dueller is ON!
To attract the lady, wear an expensive watch-not your favorite camo plastic Timex.
Wear expensive shoes and clothes. These are what the lap dancers look for in a male to get big tips...
If you prefer to meet a normal woman, head to the after hour golf tournament parties like the FBR Open in Phoenix.

John_AZ

Pretty much says it all - attracts lap dancers. Watches attract men and strippers. Not that I don't like a nice watch. I do. But, don't buy one for trolling.

Shoes, on the other hand, do matter. Any self respecting woman with any style will look at your shoe/sock selection. Leave the tennies and topsiders at home. Opt for some Paul Smith boots or at least Bruno Magli. All that can be undone by lame socks. Do not wear white athletic socks - ever. Go cashemere. Chicks dig it.

Some may say to spend $500 on a pair of shoes is foolish. But, for purposes of this discussion, better to spend $500 on some shoes that help your cause than $5000 on a watch that will make a lot of women roll their eyes. Trust me on this one.