So the shiny chrome ones are okay?

Ummm, that Toni chick is very attractive.

I had a long time girlfriend once, for the sake of this discussion let's call her Lisa Sheppard.

Lisa was on an emotional rollercoaster constantly. For about three days she would call me about 5 times a day at work to tell me how much she loved me. For the next week she was a nice normal girlfriend. The next week she was a bit businesslike when I spoke to her "Yes" or to answer a phone message with "You called". The next week was "Look I'm really busy - what do you want" or "Fark, there's more going on in my life than just you - piss off for now would you". Now us kiwis are pretty thick skinned people so that was ok but week number 3 or 4 she wanted full on yelling matches and she would say some really nasty stuff. So at this point she was very much 50% 50% I could take it or leave it and was probably more on the side of not seeing her again. But what really wound me up was the only thing that really got her hot was showing her tits off to every man she ever met. She wore very low very loose tops with nothing on underneath and loved an audience. Yes it does sound fun but only if you are the other guy. Kiwis being thick skinned are also liberal with our GFs topless or nude at the beach, but after about five years of wondering what the hell she has been up to in the Jacuzzi at the hotel or what ever I dumped her.

Now I have a certain level of what is acceptable and when they pass it - bye. Their emotions are their problem.

Yup. Can't imagine keeping a woman around for the frustration. We keep women around for the purpose of receiving a certain amount of comfort. Sex. Food. Companionship. And sure, we're prepared to deal with a certain level of difficulty. A certain amount of effort from us men is available. But if the scales begin to tip too far toward the frustration thing, then some men quickly wonder why they should continue to tolerate that. I certainly do. My life is good. I'm busy. Good career. Family and friends. Projects. The LAST thing I need is a primary relationship that brings more frustration into my life than it helps me to resolve.

If it's fun, do it. If it stops being fun.......STOP DOING IT!

LOL! Parts of this thread remind me of the time a car salesman here was telling me how to cheat on Cindy....he'd been married 5 times.

Whole-heartedly agree. The Kiwi fellow was dating a psycho, don't know why he stayed with her for five years.... Oh wait. Yes I do. I'll bet it relates to the following story.

My husband has a good friend named Kevin who was dating a psycho. He was over at our place one night relating the last few weeks of woe with the psycho-girl. After he explained everything she had done, I said,

"Okay Kevin, let me get this straight. She stold and cashed a check that was your mothers. Got fired from her job. Cheated on you. Emptied your bank account, locked you out of your own apartment (and didn't pay the rent - got him evicted), and wrecked your Blazer. All in the space of about 5 weeks.

Tell me, Kevin, why are are you keeping her around?"

To which Kevin looked at me as if I were completely stupid and said, "She's got great tits!"

Of course. Why didn't I think of that...:rolleyes:
angela

Something like that.

Yes we were great for eachother in lots of ways. Plus she was VERY good looking and lots of guys would be very pleased to take over from where I left off.

I love this page :D

Boy can I relate.
I used to be one of those nice guys who took all the crap and apologized just to make her happy or end the friggin argument. lolo, my friend's mother was right. "Be a man!"

You get into this funky groove and you let the other person just steam roll over you. By the time you finally wake up, you have been through X number of years of drama city and find half the furniture missing and your bank account has about $7.53 in it right before the rent and bills are due.

I totally agree with Superman! Emotional games are probably the worst. Don't play them.
From my ex I did learn that I don't put up with that anymore. My current GF started up once, so I just picked up my jacket and said -- cya -- I was out the door. Didn't need that.

A Japanese 18 year old kid once said to me, "you need to be a man - whack her one"
I thought he was an arse. Whack her one???? WTF !!!!

But the more I thought about it. You don't need to be physical (I am against hitting any woman!) but the idea being a man and go about your business was actually good advice. (Here in Japan at least).


Back to topic:

Another tip:
Related to the confidence thing. You have to know who you are. It doesn't matter what you look like or what you have in monetary terms. It matters what you have on the inside. If you are confident, walk and talk like you have game, you will.

I think that too many guys feel they need some kind of doodad or snappy pick up lines. That will never happen. It's what you feel and believe.

I use the lamest lines probably around. The funny thing is ... it doesn't matter! So, I just end up using, "Hi, what's your name?"

So go out there and work on that batting. You'll eventually hit a home run.

Getting back to TIPS. Face hair. Are the women into all of the bits and blotches I see. Randy on Idol has sharp burns but Howie on Deal looks creepy. The high school male with a stringy goatee? You old farts, when it gets discolored around the lips due to chew or disease, Cut It Off! If you need an opinion go to a stylist. Reminds me of an old saw, "Why does a cowboy have ***** on his mustache? Looking for love in all the wrong places".
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John_AZ

Personally, I'm pretty flexible regarding the hair thing as long as good grooming is evident. There is one real obvious exception and that is the really weird chiseled kinda gothic lookin facial hair some guys sport. I can't help it, as soon as I see that I think "serial killer."

Now as far as bald guys go - wow! BALD GUYS ARE HOT!!!! My husband has a pretty full head of hair but each spring he shaves and goes skull-naked all summer. I find it completely delightful if you know what I mean...;)

angela

While on the subject of hair.......dork knobs are the mullets of the new millenium.:eek:


Don't EVEN think about it.

What is that?

The short pony tails graying, balding middleaged guys sport.

For the most part, women prefer men to be men. And they will test to see if that's what you're going to be. Like teenagers testing to see if behavior really will be monitored and addressed. It has the appearance of being rebellion sometimes, but it's just a test. Parents need to pass this test. Boyfriends need to pass it too.

Man, are you on a roll:)

I could not agree more.

My tip: Watch her carefully in a restaurant and compare her actions with your expectations. I know that is an old saw, but its old for a reason.;)

In Japan they say bald guys are hornier!
hmmmmmmmmm, if my hair starts getting worse, I'm shaving!

Speaking of shaving, what's up with trimming the pewbs ????
My step-brothers swear by it!
What the heck?

If it's a girl ... well,well,well :D

Yep! Superman kows all. He's only been divorced once. My advice? No advice. It works...or not. Sex hasl little to do with it...

:D Well, I guess I should chime in.
The number one thing to remember, you will not find True love in a bar (unless it is a bottle) I say this as one who has worked in & out of the business since I bar-tended, Worked the door, DJ sometimes to help a friend, in college. Great place to get laid, but not to find the lady to spend the rest of your life with.

Like Wayne & others have said, be a gentleman, we are getting to be a rare breed, but a quality lady still likes to have the door opened for her, drinks refilled & if she smokes, those lit, don't give her a chance to do it her self or ask, pay attention, details are were it is at:cool:

Again, always be a gentleman, if you are sitting at a bar, and a lady pulls out a cigarette, lean over & light it, don't try and start a conversation, just light it and go back to your business, if she is interested, she will say something and you aren't looking pushing, just being a gentleman.

Dress to impress, but don't over or under dress. Dress for the location/event. Women do notice what you wear, just last week, I pulled out my wallet to pay my tab, a girl 2 tables over noticed it was a Michael Toschi and came over and commented on it. Women to look for men with style & class, that doesn't mean that you have to follow trends. Yes, there are some high $$ shirts, I have some that cost over $600, but you won't catch me wearing one of those to a bar, mostly corperate, upper end events or very upscale plaCES. Shoes, very true, but location matters too, in FL. Sperry Topsiders can be worn just about every where as many of us have boats, friends with boats and spend time at country clubs. True fashion, never goes out of style, watch a old James Bond movie, Lacost shirt, Rolex Sub, Sperrys that worked in the 60s still fit in today.
Which brings me to amother thing, watches, a nice Rolex (I don't wear one much any more, but do have a few), as others have already said, just (this also depends on where you are) attract the wrong women (like our Porsches some times do) and wearing a fake, well, if you meet a quality lady, and she knows her stuff , will run from a guy trying to pass himself off wearing fakes (include clothes too) don't be a poser!!

Be confident, carry your self well, this too has been covered, just be your self.

Just be a nice person, be nice to animals, if a girls pet likes you, you have a better chance to build with her, if it doesn't, don't let the door hit you on the ass, animals are a great judge of charitor, and I don't say this just because most animals like me:D

Colone, just a small bit, don't bath in it, no one wants to smell you before you come in, and us guys will rag you about it too.

Girls love a guy who will cook for them, and entering a chili cook off is a good way to make a positive impression. I use a modified Shelby recipe.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1200669824.jpg


Let her choose the music, sure it may suck, but this is about her, not you.
OK, now a few things that don't match what I have said, but is interesting (any one who knows me can back me up too)


I have stopped at a local bar, after working on the track car or just been out for a bike ride, sweat, t-shirt, checkered Vans, felt like a bum, only to pick up some hotties (one nurse I use to date, use to swear that I put out a scent that drove her crazy, at first I thought it was a line, but I have met many others who said the same thing) so it really is how well you carry your self.

I almost never drive one of my Porsches to a bar, generally my old truck or ride a BMX bike to some of the closer ones, it is much more fun when they see your beat up truck @ your business and stop by to see you and find a bunch of old Porsches, and one time when I rode my bike, met a hot little red head who rode with friends (and yes, I bring my BMX bikes right into the bars, I'm not leaving them out side) I told her that I just lived down the street and would go get my car. Well, as I drove back up, she was walking down the street, towards my house, you should have seen her face when I picked her up in the 911 cab :D
Reason not to drive the Porsche or dress well for some places;
Years ago, a buddy who owned a bar moved it to a not as nice area, being loyal to my friends, I stopped by for a few drinks after working an event. As soon as I got my drink, a red neck chick comes up, grabs my drink and ask if I'm a car salesman, since I'm wearing a suit:rolleyes: This was the late 80s and it was a $2,000 suit, and I got insulted. It gets better, I throwing darts with another girl (just killing time, not hitting on her, I use to like to play darts) and she tells me she has to leave, I say fine. I tab out, go to my Porsche (it was only a few years old at the time) and as I'm heading out, I hear someone yelling at me. Yes, the same girl that just blew me off when I wasn't hitting on her, comes running to my car, then tells me I don't want a woman who is more interested in what I own than who I am.

A final thing, the best advise that I didn't take (don't make this mistake guys)
About 20 years ago, I got pulled over and Patty was with me (yes, the same one who just destroyed my phone:rolleyes:) and of course, she smarted off to the cop.
He said I said .
He then said, If I had listened to him, my hair might still be dark instead of gray.

If all else fail, this won't

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I hope this helps, I'm off to the pub:D

Sorry, but Peppy takes the cake with these:

Nearly fell off my chair!

ianc

Interesting thread.
A female co-worker sent this to me (cut-and-pasted below) just yesterday- I've tried to edit for Pelican parts. Hope I was able to camouflage all the naughty bits.
-Nos

You know how Seventeen and Cosmopolitan and all those gay magazines have
"boyfriend tips" or "how to please your man"? Well, here's something
similar, but for dudes instead. Pay attention! this could save your
relationship!

1. When she asks how she looks shrug and say "could be better", this will
keep her on her toes, and girls love that.

2. Never hold her hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness. (Or
if she grabs your hand squeeze hers really really hard until she cries.
This will impress her by showing her what a strong man you are.)

3. Once a month sneak up on her from behind and knock her over. Girls are
like dogs, they love to be roughed up.

4. Call her in the middle of the night to ask if she's sleeping. If she is
say, "You better be." Repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will
show her you care.

5. When she is upset about something, suggest to her that it might be her
fault. This will pave the way for her own personal improvement and every
girl needs some improvement.

6. Recognize the small things . . . they usually mean the most. Then when
she's sleeping, steal all her small things and break them, because jewelry
is for p__sies and Asian ladies.

7. If you're talking to another girl, make sure shes looking. When she is,
stare into her eyes mouth the words "f you" and grab the other girls
a_. Girls love competition.

8. Tell her you're taking her out to dinner. Drive for miles so she thinks
it's going to be really special. Then take her to a burning tire yard. When
she starts to get upset tell her you were just kidding and now you're
really going to take her to dinner. Then drive her home. When she starts
crying and asks why you would do something like that lean over and whisper
very quietly into her ear "...because i can."

9. Introduce her to your friends as "some chick". Women love those special
nicknames.

10. Play with her hair. Play with it HARD.

11. Warm her up when shes cold...and not by giving her your jacket... then
you might get cold. Rather, look her in the eye and say, "If you don't stop
b_ching about the cold right now you're going to be b_ching about a black
eye." The best way to get warm is with fear.

12. Take her to a party. When you get there she'll have to go to the
bathroom (they always do). Leave immediately. Come back right when the
party's dying and yell at her the whole way home for ditching you at the
party.

13. Make her laugh. A good way to do this is if she has a small pet. Kick
the pet. I always find stuff like that funny. Why shouldn't girls?

14. Let her fall asleep in your arms. When she's fast asleep, wait 10
minutes then JUMP UP AND SCREAM IN HER EAR! Repeat until she goes home and
you can use your arms for more important things. Like basketball.

15. Spit often. I hear girls like guys that spit.

16. If you care about her never ever tell her. This will only give her self
confidence. Then you can never turn her into the object she deep down
desires to be.

17. Every time you're in her house steal one of the following: shoes,
earrings, or anything else that comes in pairs. Only take one of the pair.
This way she'll go crazy.

18. Take her out to dinner. Right when she's about to order, interrupt and
say "No, shes not hungry." Make her watch you eat. Girls love a guy that
speaks for her.

19. Look her in the eyes and smile. Then clock her one. Girls love a
spontaneous guy.

20. Give her one of your t-shirts......and make sure it has your smell on
it. But not a sexy cologne smell. A bad smell. You know what I'm talking
about.

21. When it's raining keep asking her if she's crying. She'll say "No, it's
just the rain." Ten minutes later, turn to her and just scream at her to
"Stop crying you f ing baby." Girls like a tough man as I've already
stated.

22. T__ty twisters and plenty of them.

23. If you're listening to music, and she asks to hear it, tell her no.
This way she'll think you're mysterious.

24. Remember her birthday but don't get her something. Teach her material
objects aren't important. The only thing that's important is that she keeps
you happy, and your happiness is the greatest present she can ever get.

25. When she gives you a present on your birthday, Christmas, or just
whenever, take it and tell her you love it. Then next time you know she's
coming over on a trash day leave the trash can open and have the present
visibly sticking out of the can. Girls actually don't like this one that
much but I think it's funny.

26. If she's mad at you for not calling her when you say you will promise
her that you will call her at a certain time of the day. This will make
sure that she waits by the phone. Tell her when you call you're going to
tell her a special surprise. Now she'll be really excited. Now don't
call....

Angela, this is incredible insight! After reading this, I gained a better understanding of women in relationships. You put into words an intangible thought that I could not pin down. Thanks!

David