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Nope - I'll watch it tonight though (I don't have sound on this computer at work, so videos don't work here).

I'm curious to see what he has to say. Thanks for posting in any case.

Even if true, I don't know if it'd steer me over to a party hack. I'll have to see how "out there" his position is and think about it, but I suspect at the end of the day I'd still prefer a president with some occasional screwy beliefs on things not related to government over a plastic, fabricated party hack or a theocratician.

We'll see.

"I think it's a theory, you know...the theory of evolution and I....I don't except it...as a theory"

People are now pointing fingers at Lew Rockwell* as they guy who wrote the off-color material (such as "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks") in the Ron Paul newsletters.

* the guy Fastpat swooned over daily

Hehe, I like how Ron Paul is really getting under the skin of so many hardcore Republicans. Good stuff.

I do doubt Ron Paul will get the Rep. nomination, so I'll have to seriously study the Dem and Rep candidate when election time comes. My growing ignorance is increasing the odds that I will vote Dem for the first time in my life.

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Originally Posted by turbo6bar (Post 3708436)

Hehe, I like how Ron Paul is really getting under the skin of so many hardcore Republicans. Good stuff.

Like who? I'd like to see!

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3708485)

Like who? I'd like to see!

Indeed. He;s anything but under my skin. The guys main message is pretty basic Republican platform, but wrapped in a nutty shell:D

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Originally Posted by turbo6bar (Post 3708436)

Reardon seems to have a point of contention with Ron Paul.
I have never voted with a party affiliation. That said, I will vote for the third party candidate regardless of the his chance to actually win. I would like the rest of the voters who are fed up with the Dem/Repub charade of a representative government to vote third party as well. Perhaps laying the groundwork for a future groundswell of discontent with these knuckleheads. My eye is on the future, our kids and thiers deserve more choice than what is currently foisted upon us.
I'm with Moses on page 1 of the thread, "nobody represents my view in washington"
Paul won't win, but if I vote for any of the candidates who are currently running then I/we won't win.

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 3708605)

Reardon seems to have a point of contention with Ron Paul.
I have never voted with a party affiliation.

I am not a registered Republican and I have voted for the Libertarian Party candidate for POTUS more often than I've voted for the Republican candidate. Ron Paul is a conspiracy-obsessed nut (and his whiney performance in the debates drives me crazy). His platform would have made sense 100 years ago, but that train has left the station.

Exactly.

Unless you happen to be one of the very small percentage for whom the "party line" satisfies, the only thing you do by casting a straight (D) or (R) vote is validate the current sham of a partisan system.

Party politics was neither intended nor provided for by the framers of the Constitution. It's one of the biggest obstacles standing between the public-at-large (you and me) and a true representative democracy.

Sorry, but two lists of dumbed-down bullet points do not make a satisfactory choice for elected officials, IMHO.

Good on you for voting third party. I would have guessed by the tone of the political discussion you would be a card carry Republican. Who has your vote this year?

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 3708617)

Good on you for voting third party. I would have guessed by the tone of the political discussion you would be a card carry Republican. Who has your vote this year?

I can't vote in the primaries since I'm not registered D or R. I can't vote until November. But the smart money would be on the Republican candidate as the better of two less-than-ideal choices. During the 2004 election, there was a quiz where you could enter your positions on a variety of topics and the web site would tell you which candidate came closest. Mine was Joe Lieberman. Sounds about right to me.

Good to know that as much as you seem to be repulsed by the republicans, at least you positively wont be voting for Obama or Hillary come election time. Every little bit helps. Thanks in advance. I used to worry that all the folks who hate Bush would vote for the the other side. Instead it sounds like many of you guys will simply not vote or vote for someone who does not have a realistic shot at the presidency. ;):D

FYI: free book in pdf form.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1575290&posted=1#post1575290

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Originally Posted by falc39 (Post 1574969)

Hey all, quick update of a finding of a book I'm now currently reading:

I already own Ron Paul's book on foreign policy, A Foreign Policy of Freedom. I have an electronic copy of his most recent, Pillars of Prosperity. But on the 200th anniversary of the constitution (more than 20 years ago), Ron Paul wrote the book Freedom Under Siege. I find this book interesting because it is not like the previous two that I've been reading, which were mostly a collection of all his speeches made in congress. This book is Ron Paul, written more than 20 years ago, speaking directly to the book reader. He touches a lot of his inner beliefs, like how morality fits in with government and the sources that have influenced a lot of his views (quotes a lot of Mises and history in general). Much more personal than his speeches in congress. I actually enjoyed reading the critique of the absurdness and hypocrisy of the draft. There's also a lot of monetary policy too (like always). I think what is most remarkable about his book is that what he has been saying and writing 20 years ago, is still relevant (maybe even more) when read today. Compound that with the fact that he has been saying the same thing, never straying from his principles- I'm really beginning to see Ron Paul as a statesman, because he sure as hell doesn't portray your average politician.

Here's a free copy for those who are interested:
http://www.mises.org/books/freedomsiege.pdf

I think I already posted his Pillars of prosperity link earlier in this thread.

I believe there's another book on economics that ron paul wrote a while ago with someone else. I think it's called The Case for Gold. I'll probably check that one out next.

Has anyone on this forum been reading any of his books?

Cool, thanks for that. I'll read it entirely before commenting further or making any firm decision.

It's Friday morning. Still no chance.

I propose that all who support the current administration "write in" George W. Bush one more time :)

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 3712069)

I propose that all who support the current administration "write in" George W. Bush one more time :)

Make it "Laura Bush" and she will get more swing voters than Hillary.;)

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3707836)

We need CANDIDATES, not parties. Ron Paul is a candidate first and doesn't particularly give a damn about the "party line". For that alone, he gets huge bonus points (at least from me). Political parties are neither provided for in the Constitution, nor do they serve the best interests of the voting constituency (quite the opposite in fact). The fact that Paul is so obviously just sticking a party "tag" on himself just to get in the game is something that I (and others) see and admire.

I am not alone! (now sitting here doing a mental happy dance)