Pic the Prez - whose it gonna be?
 

I'm guessing Obama. Note that I said "guessing" not choosing. I think He'll get the Democratic nomination. The Dems know that they'll lose for sure if Hillary gets the nod. That and she just isn't likeable. I think Romney (again - not my choice) will get the Republican nomination. When those two face off Romney's amalgam of slimy insincerity will turn off some would be Republican voters while Obama's more sincere (in appearance at least) presence will rally Democratic voters unlike the previous stiffs who ran uninspired campaigns.

I thought this before he dominated South Carolina btw.

I don't agree with much of Obama's platform, as I typically vote conservative, but his speech tonight was inspiring and uplifting. Hillary's speech after was flat, dull and hopeless, IMO.

The contrast of the two speeches may have created a turning point in the campaign for the Dem. nominee and perhaps the president.

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

I still think it will be the machine, the Clinton Machine for the Dems
Romney for the Republican side.

Remember - not who do you want, but guess who it will be. You don't even need to give a good reason. I'm looking for gut feelings, guesses, or thoughtful consideration, but a definite answer as well. For posterity. :)

That's what I gave you, Bob! :D

I think Obama has a great chance and is the most inspired candidate - this coming from a conservative voter (registered Ind.).

Do you want one of my kidneys as well? :)

Best,

Kurt

It is a little scary that Hillary has the lead...if she wins the Dem nomination then
the Replicans surely will win the election, McCain whomever gets that nom.
Personally Id like to see a more closely contested Pres. election, therefore hopefully Hillary loses.

Just like a Democrat! Gives a "maybe" and calls it an answer.

:D

I posted a poll to make this more definite.

I think that most Dems are beginning to realize that Hillary might be the only Democratic candidate that could lose. Hubby, while being a great asset also brings baggage. Obama has some momentum (even tho SC is not that important) and unless he does something incredibly stupid he appears to have the upper hand right now. His lack of a record is probably an advantage during a time when our nation's leadership and direction apears to be so screwed up.

The GOP is in a similar quagmire. McCain is probably the most likely to have a chance of actually winning the election except that he is viewed as a watered down version of Bush. And that equals loser. Romney has the bucks and in a normal presidential election would far and away be the GOP insider favorite because of business background. And like Obama he benefits by not being a Washington insider and being able to distance himself from President Bush. It would be interesting to see just how far he might take that tack if he gets the GOP bid. One of his biggest flaws might be the perception that he not only resembles John Kerry but that he acts like him.

My way back in time fav was Rudy to beat the clinton machine. That seems unlikely presently.

That said my bet's on the clinton machine. Somehow bill will pull it off.

He's the best.

Hoping Obama, suspecting Clinton.

Obama will get one term as prez & then the voters will swing Repub again but with a milder choice than the current admin.

Just my interested outsider point of view, so no hate or venom, please.

Ian

[QUOTE=WI wide body;3730207] Obama has some momentum (even tho SC is not that important)

I dissagree, it was very important. Ex President Bill Clinton was "The first Black President". He called every SC Black minister to support Hillary. Result-Obama win with 55%, Hillary 27%.

John_AZ

Wherez ron paul? :D

not bad prognostication, will elect a democrat, they will turn out to be a disaster in every conceivable way(both in office, and even worse after serving), then we will elect a Republican in a landslide and have them for another dozen years.

That is what we got in the mid 1970's and into the 80's

Wow! I'm shocked! I thought you would all think I was nuts thinking Obama will win.

FYI - I didn't include Paul because I don't want someone who doesn't have a prayer taking votes from someone else. Brrrrrr. I just got a glimpse of the future. ;)

I don't think Obama can win, I don't think Hispanics as a whole will vote for him, I think about 11% of the US is black, maybe 70% of them are Democrats but maybe only 30% of them vote. Maybe more this year ? They are congregated in certain areas, many states don't have a large black population, so I just don't think you will be able to count the black vote as that big of a voting block. It will be offset by in some cases, the whole rest of the state. SC is different, not at all the norm.
Hillary will win the Democrat bid, ALL Democrats will vote for her. The Blacks will lose interest because Obama isn't there. Or, if we are lucky vote against the #$%%^&. The country is more or less 50/50 so only swing voters that really hate the #$%$$ make the difference.
These numbers are just my guess, I am too lazy to look them up.

I don't know. It's a mystery.

Looks like the media is setting up Obama-McCain. But this thing hasn't even started yet. The voters will decide, not MSNBC.

The Obama win in SC is being way overplayed by the media. He won because of the black vote. period. He will have to win the white vote in the big states to be considered seriously. Blacks are only about 13% of the population.

The guy who could win is Gore. But he is so politically inept, he can't even see it.

if Billary get's the dem ticket, the dem's loose and a repub win's

personally i like what i've seen from Obama, but i fear that he has no chance if winning the prezzy race, just because he's black and the USA probably isn't ready for that just yet... (although i give him more chance of winning then Billary)


don't know much about the republican's, but maybe mcCain ? at least he has been in a war, which gives him at least some credibility in managing one...unlike the current batch of chickenhawks...

Algor? Hillary has bigger balls than him and sleeps with better looking, smarter women. Not that it matters.

Have you watched or listened to Algor? He is as interesting as wall paper paste. Hillary would kick him around just like she used to, he wouldn't know what hit him after the machine rolled over, they have to be somewhat pleasant to Obama, not Algor, no race problem there.

mid last year I was supporting Romney and Rudy. Both men have been extremely successful in their careers and I thought they could make a difference as President: Romney for business skills; Rudy for his Iron Fist.

Both have disappointed me almost as much as McCain.

I also liked Huckabee almost solely due to his preventative approach to problem solving. But he doesn't believe in Evolution, and may not even believe in photosynthesis, so he's out.

And then there's Ron Paul who probably has the best ideas of all the candidates. But he's borderline insane.

the rest of them, forget it.

I just gave a small donation to Obama. Doesn't mean I'll vote for him, but I thought he earned it. He's running a great campaign. But he has little real experience and I don't think he can get Oprah to beat up on Corp. Lobbyists that are really running this country. he needs a little more time.

I have to agree with your assessment, but mostly because of the mess that any President will inherit. Who would have thought 3 years ago this country would be at an all-time low? It is indisputable that Republicans have driven our country into the ground. I can't even imagine the job of getting it back on top, but it's got to include:

1. A national high-speed data infrastructure necessary to keep our businesses competitive in a global market and all of our citizens, from the the inner city poor to the suburban middle class connected, informed, and educated at rates 60 times our current infrastructure. JOBS.

2 A "Transportation Energy Independence" program on the scale of The New Deal, Tennessee Valley, Man on the Moon such that 5 years we will reduce our dependence on foreign oil for transportation by 35%. JOBS.

3. A topshelf education system in which teachers are held accountable and the very best ones are just breaking 6 figures, every student has a computer that is theirs to keep, every student has books, music class and fully funded after-school programs. THE FUTURE.

Interesting that he is left out. He has more votes than Guliani.
Of course he has no real chance to win, but he'll have my vote.

Again, I left him out because I didn't want this to be a voting poll - it's a guess the winner poll. I believe Paul would throw off the poll because he has such a passionate following that there could be "wishful thinking" votes for him. Like you said, he has no real chance to win. You could also say that Edwards is so far out he has no real chance also. I just wanted the Dem/Republican balance to be there. :) I also wonder if real life could imitate my concerns here. will Paul run third party after he folds for the Republican spot? If so, I think it strengthens my prediction of an Obama win because Paul will steal Republican votes much the way Nader stole Democrat votes last time around.

If osama wins, the dems loose too!

At this point I think Obama will win even without an independent splitting the Republican vote. People who understand nothing about policy will vote for Obama because Hillary is so unpleasant.

Hillary cried WAY to early in the process. She should have reserved her Oprah moment for a more critical stage. If she gets tearful again, it will really hurt her chances.

By the way, Guiliani is not out of this. I expect him to score big in New York and California. He'll be in the thick of the race at the end.

+1

I expect Clinton to win, but am hoping for pretty much anyone else.

When voters have to get serious they will choose a good manager for the job. ...not a preacher, or a power-crazed Clinton; not a beat-up old war hero, or a yappy deconstructionist.

Guiliani or Romney

+2

A very realistic and possible scenario, if you ask me...no venom here...

Ted Kennedy threw his support behind Obama - that pretty much settles it - Obama will be our next POTUS. :D

Well, maybe not. I do, however, think it is a good indicator that he will get the nod for the Dems. Not so much because of the pull Ted has, which he does, but more because Ted is smart. He's not going to back a loser. He will most certainly toss his hat in the ring with the man -yes man- most likely to win. No, he won't jump on as VP. Even he knows he would ruin Obama's chances.

I think the Obama campaign was glad to get his support, but according to Fox News they placed one stipulation on it: Obama wasn't to go any car rides with Teddy.:D

Maybe the Kennedys just don't like the Clintons.

I think any politician, especially a Kennedy, would sleep with whomever the gain would be the greatest.

I don't think Clinton has reached very deeply into her bag of dirty tricks yet. None of the Republicans have taken a shot at him either. There is a LOT of material there for whoever chooses to look for it. The Tony Rezko thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

Prediction:

Republican candidate will keep the 20% Bush deadenders, 50% of Republicans who consider themselves traditional conservatives and get 30% all Independents.

Obama will take 100% Democrats, 70% Independents and 30% Republicans thoroughly disgusted with the state of the party.

That's pretty optimistic Shaun. And that assumes no one realizes Obama is a hardcore liberal socialist before the general election.

Nope, this election will be the same story with different candidates.

Although I don't expect to hear a peep about "voter irregularities" if a Dem is elected. ;)

I didn't put numbers to it, but I agree with your theory. I also believe that Democrats will rally an unprecedented turnout at the polls.

I predict whoever is elected, they will be a one-termer. The economy is going to tank the next few years, and may not recover before the next general election.

That could be the opening for Newt and Condi to start their campaign in about two years. Newt for Pres and Condi for VP of course.

For sure if Obama gets elected, but I'm not so sure if Romney gets elected. Imo, we need a Republican prez now more than ever.

[QUOTE=John_AZ;3730393] The reason I said that is because SC has a far out of whack percentage of black voters that most likely will not apply in any of the other truly important states. Obama might have gotten a false bump because of the % of blacks among SC Dems.

Besides, SC is probably gonna vote GOP when it counts in Nov.