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stealthn 01-28-2008 11:39 AM

Anyone see 60 Minutes - Sadam interviews
 
Did anyone catch 60 minutes last night? They had the FBI agent on who was the only one interviewing Sadam during is prison stays and it was incredibly interesting.

Some of the highlights:

The WMD were destroyed (prior to invasion) by Iraq and the UN Inspectors but he (Sadam) wanted to keep everyone thinking they still had them to prevent Iran from invading.

Sadam didn't think the US would invade, and he was more worried about Iran anyway.

Sadam/Iraq never housed terrorists, and Sadam said Osama Bin Laden was a zelot whom he would never trust or support


Once again interesting stuff that puts a lot into perspective.

speeder 01-28-2008 11:44 AM

Did you transpose "Iraq" and "Iran" in the WMD sentence?

Other than that, I believe it.

island911 01-28-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 3733257)
Did anyone catch 60 minutes last night? They had the FBI agent on who was the only one interviewing Sadam ....

Once again interesting stuff that puts a lot into perspective.

. . .for those who choose to beleive that the Lebonese-American was out-smarting Saddam ... so much so, that Saddam broke.

Rearden 01-28-2008 11:48 AM

You forgot about the part where Saddam said that after the sanctions collapsed, he would have resumed his chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons programs.

stealthn 01-28-2008 11:52 AM

Denis - thanks yes

Island - i expected comments like this, take it for what it's worth, but don't you think the FBI knows what they're doing in respect to unforced mind games? And really wouldn't it be in the FBI/U.S.'s best interest to change the story?

Yes Rearden I missed that part...

hardflex 01-28-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

he (Sadam) wanted to keep everyone thinking they still had them to prevent Iran from invading.
Saber rattling to scare Iran, I'm sure.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-28-2008 11:59 AM

who believes, or even watches, CBS anymore?

Rearden 01-28-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 3733290)
Yes Rearden I missed that part...


In fact, Piro says Saddam intended to produce weapons of mass destruction again, some day. "The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," Piro says.

"And that was his intention?" Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.

"What weapons of mass destruction did he intend to pursue again once he had the opportunity?" Pelley asks.

"He wanted to pursue all of WMD. So he wanted to reconstitute his entire WMD program," says Piro.

"Chemical, biological, even nuclear," Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.


The interview is online here

island911 01-28-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 3733290)
... but don't you think the FBI knows what they're doing in respect to unforced mind games? And really wouldn't it be in the FBI/U.S.'s best interest to change the story?...

but don't you think that Saddam knew what the FBI agents were doing in respect to unforced mind games? Saddam had been playing chess with the US for a decade+. He had well established stories. He knew that every thing he said could and would be used against him, and his history.

2nd, The FBI had a very small pool of Arabic speaking officers. --That guy didn't strike me as a world-class mind-player. ..though I'm sure that he had help.

3rd 60-Minutes, as always, certainly has an interest in which stories get told. ...and how.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-28-2008 12:11 PM

you fella's need to pick one strategy and go with it.

legion 01-28-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3733312)
who believes, or even watches, CBS anymore?

Even a broken watch is right twice a day...

island911 01-28-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3733312)
who believes, or even watches, CBS anymore?

--Writers Strike. Choices are limited.

Rearden 01-28-2008 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3733337)
you fella's need to pick one strategy and go with it.

Was the FBI agent making it up? Or did CBS edit the interview to change the meaning of his words?

WI wide body 01-28-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rearden (Post 3733315)
In fact, Piro says Saddam intended to produce weapons of mass destruction again, some day. "The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," Piro says.

"And that was his intention?" Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.

"What weapons of mass destruction did he intend to pursue again once he had the opportunity?" Pelley asks.

"He wanted to pursue all of WMD. So he wanted to reconstitute his entire WMD program," says Piro.

"Chemical, biological, even nuclear," Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.


The interview is online here

I fail to see the relevance of any of this. Any weapon that kills large numbers of people can be an WMD. Tim McVeigh proved that fertilizer and kerosene can be a WMD.

So Saddam "wanted" weapons. Big deal. There are probably only about 1,000 despots or strong men around the world to whom this would apply. If we start invading nations that have goofballs that "want" or would like to have WMD's then we probably had better go alphabetically since there are a whole *****load of them!

stealthn 01-28-2008 06:22 PM

I'm just saying I thought it interesting to get an insight into his thinking, even if he was smarter than the FBI's tactics (doubtful), let's say he was lying; there were WMD's and they did house the masterminds behind 911 - Well the "coalition of the willing" didn't find jack...I guess he outsmarted them one more time ;)

Oh yeah and the 2 minutes of the address tonight I saw Bush saying the "Iranians are training terrorists in Iraq" WTF... will it ever end.

fintstone 01-28-2008 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=WI wide body;3733583]I fail to see the relevance of any of this. Any weapon that kills large numbers of people can be an WMD...QUOTE]

Only according to a moron that makes up his own definition of WMD.

hardflex 01-29-2008 03:51 AM

Saddam said he invaded Kuwait the first time was because the Emir of Kuwait said "he was going to keep stealing Iraqi oil until all the Iraqi women were $10 prostitutes".

You can watch the full interview on the web.

Joeaksa 01-29-2008 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3733337)
you fella's need to pick one strategy and go with it.

How about telling the truth? Worked this time but most do not want to believe it...

island911 01-29-2008 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hardflex (Post 3734713)
Saddam said he invaded Kuwait the first time was because the Emir of Kuwait said "he was going to keep stealing Iraqi oil until all the Iraqi women were $10 prostitutes". ....

Simple as that, eh?

I'm shocked at how readily people will embrace Saddam's version. ...as given while under arrest by a country he loathed. "It was all just a big misunderstanding... don't kill me."

Rearden 01-29-2008 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 3735075)
Simple as that, eh?

I'm shocked at how readily people will embrace Saddam's version. ...as given while under arrest by a country he loathed. "It was all just a big misunderstanding... don't kill me."

Saddam knew he would be executed when he was transferred into Iraqi custody. These interviews were conducted before that, while in US custody, and had nothing to do with the trial that would come later.


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