Anyone see 60 Minutes - Sadam interviews
 

Did anyone catch 60 minutes last night? They had the FBI agent on who was the only one interviewing Sadam during is prison stays and it was incredibly interesting.

Some of the highlights:

The WMD were destroyed (prior to invasion) by Iraq and the UN Inspectors but he (Sadam) wanted to keep everyone thinking they still had them to prevent Iran from invading.

Sadam didn't think the US would invade, and he was more worried about Iran anyway.

Sadam/Iraq never housed terrorists, and Sadam said Osama Bin Laden was a zelot whom he would never trust or support


Once again interesting stuff that puts a lot into perspective.

Did you transpose "Iraq" and "Iran" in the WMD sentence?

Other than that, I believe it.

. . .for those who choose to beleive that the Lebonese-American was out-smarting Saddam ... so much so, that Saddam broke.

You forgot about the part where Saddam said that after the sanctions collapsed, he would have resumed his chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons programs.

Denis - thanks yes

Island - i expected comments like this, take it for what it's worth, but don't you think the FBI knows what they're doing in respect to unforced mind games? And really wouldn't it be in the FBI/U.S.'s best interest to change the story?

Yes Rearden I missed that part...

Saber rattling to scare Iran, I'm sure.

who believes, or even watches, CBS anymore?

In fact, Piro says Saddam intended to produce weapons of mass destruction again, some day. "The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there," Piro says.

"And that was his intention?" Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.

"What weapons of mass destruction did he intend to pursue again once he had the opportunity?" Pelley asks.

"He wanted to pursue all of WMD. So he wanted to reconstitute his entire WMD program," says Piro.

"Chemical, biological, even nuclear," Pelley asks.

"Yes," Piro says.


The interview is online here

but don't you think that Saddam knew what the FBI agents were doing in respect to unforced mind games? Saddam had been playing chess with the US for a decade+. He had well established stories. He knew that every thing he said could and would be used against him, and his history.

2nd, The FBI had a very small pool of Arabic speaking officers. --That guy didn't strike me as a world-class mind-player. ..though I'm sure that he had help.

3rd 60-Minutes, as always, certainly has an interest in which stories get told. ...and how.

you fella's need to pick one strategy and go with it.

Even a broken watch is right twice a day...

--Writers Strike. Choices are limited.

Was the FBI agent making it up? Or did CBS edit the interview to change the meaning of his words?

I fail to see the relevance of any of this. Any weapon that kills large numbers of people can be an WMD. Tim McVeigh proved that fertilizer and kerosene can be a WMD.

So Saddam "wanted" weapons. Big deal. There are probably only about 1,000 despots or strong men around the world to whom this would apply. If we start invading nations that have goofballs that "want" or would like to have WMD's then we probably had better go alphabetically since there are a whole *****load of them!

I'm just saying I thought it interesting to get an insight into his thinking, even if he was smarter than the FBI's tactics (doubtful), let's say he was lying; there were WMD's and they did house the masterminds behind 911 - Well the "coalition of the willing" didn't find jack...I guess he outsmarted them one more time ;)

Oh yeah and the 2 minutes of the address tonight I saw Bush saying the "Iranians are training terrorists in Iraq" WTF... will it ever end.

[QUOTE=WI wide body;3733583]I fail to see the relevance of any of this. Any weapon that kills large numbers of people can be an WMD...QUOTE]

Only according to a moron that makes up his own definition of WMD.

Saddam said he invaded Kuwait the first time was because the Emir of Kuwait said "he was going to keep stealing Iraqi oil until all the Iraqi women were $10 prostitutes".

You can watch the full interview on the web.

How about telling the truth? Worked this time but most do not want to believe it...

Simple as that, eh?

I'm shocked at how readily people will embrace Saddam's version. ...as given while under arrest by a country he loathed. "It was all just a big misunderstanding... don't kill me."

Saddam knew he would be executed when he was transferred into Iraqi custody. These interviews were conducted before that, while in US custody, and had nothing to do with the trial that would come later.

"It was all just a big misunderstanding... don't let them kill me"

Better?

The bottom line is, Saddam KNEW that guy was there to get his story.

Better? No. I take Pirro at his word. He knows more about the interrogation than you or I do.

Solitary confinement, loneliness, and implementation of world-class interrogation techniques to exploit the psyche of a particular subject can be very effective.

Well then, you should follow Pirro's lead and only take it as 'that's what Saddam said.' Pirro himself had some opinions on where he thought Saddam was being truthful . . but still, all he was getting from Saddam was what Saddam wanted him to have.

It seems to me that if Saddam had been broken, that he would have shown some emotion on the news of his sons deaths. He certainly didn't let anyone -in- there, and even got Pirro to back-off when Pirro pressed him on it. --You can be impressed if you like, but what I saw of the interview ... it was nice-nice. --Saddam broke with cookies from home? . .enjoyed in his garden? :rolleyes:

I don't think it matters. People will believe whatever they want and if the facts contradict that, they'll cherry pick or twist it. Either way, the Bush haters will always say he lied. If WMD turned up tomorrow, they'd use Saddam's confession as evidence that the WMD were planted. If they never turn up, they'll say Bush knew it all along and still lied about them. Nothing will ever convince anyone who already believes what they want to believe.

Saddam also was asked about his son ( was it Udo?), known as a rapist. Saddam replied "you're stuck with the kids you get" or something like that. That made me chuckle.

Island, you should watch the interview. It won't kill you. Saddam was ready to die, and not afraid of it. He had lived longer than most men in his country anyway. You should try to learn what you can about the man we spent a trillion dollars to kill.

pick a version, I don't care which, but you are destabilizing Republican dogmatism. no good can come of that.

You really shouldn't be playing at the top of the stairs, Shaun.

There is only one version of the interview. Are you posting in the correct thread?

It took American know-how to really drive those prices down.

I thought the quote was "You raise the kids you have, not the kids you want." or something like that.

something like that. It sure sounded like he wasn't proud of him about that.

here's the exact quotes

"asked how Saddam reacted to the deaths of his two sons, Uday and Qusay, Piro says, "I was surprised. He didn't show any remorse. He told me that he was, of course, proud of his sons. They died believing, or fighting, for what they believed."

Piro asked Saddam about his son Uday, a notorious rapist and murderer. He pressed him until Saddam didn’t want to hear anymore. "He tells me to stop. Basically stop asking these questions. You don't get to pick your kids. You're kind of stuck with what you get," Piro recalls.

Among the most important questions for U.S. intelligence was whether Saddam was supporting al Qaeda, as had been claimed by some in the Bush administration.

What was Saddam's opinion of Osama Bin Laden?

"He considered him to be a fanatic. And as such was very wary of him. He told me, 'You can't really trust fanatics,'" Piro says.

"Didn't think of Bin Laden as an ally in his effort against the United States in this war against the United States?" Pelley asks.

"No. No. He didn't wanna be seen with Bin Laden. And didn't want to associate with Bin Laden," Piro explains.

Piro says Saddam thought that Bin Laden was a threat to him and his regime.

I think he stole it from this guy, or vice versa.

"As you know, you have to go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want,"

yeah maybe so :-)

[QUOTE=fintstone;3734513] The only "moron" would be someone who is mentally unable to recognize that the second biggest terrorist attack with-in the USA was done by using fertlizer and kerosene.

Now please give us your learned version of what a "WMD" might be?

You are actually correct. Bush is now in the exact same position as he put Saddam when he was asking Saddam to prove that there were no WMD's in Iraq or else we were going to invade. Now Bush himself is being asked to prove a negative...which is often impossible.

Maybe it's poetic justice.

I watched the whole piece, as it aired on 60_Minutes.

So you say Saddam was not afraid of death, but came clean with all that was going on ... not whatever version that he felt that he should leave for history, but just purely the facts? He was motivated to this by what? . .. because he saw Pirro between him and the door? . . .because Pirro brought him cookies? :rolleyes:

What was Saddams motivation to give Pirro anything?

Now that's funny..

Ego.

Spot on.

the Bush haters don't realize the circular argument they are making --like their counter parts who argue " God exists - it says so in the bible - and the bible can't be wrong, as it was written by God." ...except for the Bush haters their "God" is Saddam. ...whose word is the ultimate authority.

Ego, eh?

So then it would follow that Saddam would continue to contort the truth. ....or do ego-maniacs tend stick to the whole truth, and nothing but the whole truth?