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Buckterrier 02-28-2008 06:26 PM

an 18oz. rib-eye would be approx. 1,600 calories, and 145 grams of fat. :eek:
That's enough fat in one meal for 10 days?????????????
Better lay off the ranch dressing ;)

dd74 02-28-2008 08:26 PM

Pro cyclists burn 3,000 calories a day. Just something to consider...

Tim Hancock 02-29-2008 04:02 AM

I don't know how many calories I was taking in, but I did the Atkins deal for two weeks a couple months ago. I was staying at about 20 grams of carbs a day by eating bacon, turkey ham, chicken, hamburgers without the bun, steak, cheese, salad w/ a bit of ranch dressing, black coffee and lots of water. I lost 8 lbs and was stuffing myself on the above food items.

It was great at first, but I could only swing it for two weeks. I had recently had blood work done and suprisingly my cholesteral numbers were all real good, so I was not worried about the temporary fat intake in regards to my two week bacon bonanza.

Bottom line..... extremely low carb diets work, but long term, I don't think they are very healthy.

cgarr 02-29-2008 11:29 AM

Maybe this will work for you?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...91/fitness.jpg

dd74 02-29-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3799107)
Bottom line..... extremely low carb diets work, but long term, I don't think they are very healthy.

This is correct. The carbs are the fuel to help burn the protein. If a person eats large portions of protein without any carbs, they'll be a stopped-up glob of cholesterol.

tabs 02-29-2008 01:08 PM

I really don't care what you believe or don't believe. I have lost close to 60 lbs, by restricting Carbs to under 100 grams a day. There is no problem with maintaing that level. Last time my Cholesteral level was 163...so you can go figure it out.

dd74 02-29-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3800163)
I have lost close to 60 lbs.

Cutting off your head doesn't count. SmileWavy

tabs 02-29-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3800208)
Cutting off your head doesn't count. SmileWavy

Yes yes now I am just a talking head.

Buckterrier 02-29-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3800427)
Yes yes now I am just a talking head.

Um... that would be cutting off your body. ;)

dd74 02-29-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 3800436)
Um... that would be cutting off your body. ;)

He means the other head. :D

Scott R 02-29-2008 05:32 PM

The diet works, however you can't really ever get off it. The real key is to become efficient in processing what you're taking in. I've lost a 100lbs, and have kept it off now for 4 years, I'm 40 soon, and I'm ripped enough to be on the cover of Men's Health magazine, but it takes a great deal of time. Between weight training and cardio, and custom meal planning its a full time job.

Good for you Tabs, congratulations on your weight loss and keep it up! Whatever works, and whatever you like, is good for you.

Buckterrier 02-29-2008 06:35 PM

So it's all about weight and not health? hmmmm

Scott R 02-29-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 3800727)
So it's all about weight and not health? hmmmm


Still healthy, less stress on the heart and other organs.

LakeCleElum 02-29-2008 08:46 PM

I dunno, I'm kinda depressed about all this....After I take my meds in the mornings, I've exceeded my calorie intake for the day????? Where do you go from there?

Buckterrier 03-01-2008 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 3800740)
Still healthy, less stress on the heart and other organs.

Eating a 20 oz. rib-eye is never healthy, sure losing weight is obviously better for you. But replacing muscle and bone mass with plaque in your arteries... I don't know.
And I commend you for your weight loss.

Mo_Gearhead 03-01-2008 04:04 AM

Weight loss ... a Billion Dollar per year industry.

Eat LESS
Exercise MORE

How much did that cost you?

Carrman 03-01-2008 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3799971)
This is correct. The carbs are the fuel to help burn the protein. If a person eats large portions of protein without any carbs, they'll be a stopped-up glob of cholesterol.

I was on low carbs for several years, had blood work done before, during and after, and my cholestrol never went up.

There's several ways to lose weight, but cutting carbs is one of the most effective ways. I quickly and easily lost 45+ lbs, and have kept it off for 5 years now. During the first few years I exercised quite a bit, but I haven't exercised one bit in the past year or so, and have still kept the weight off by not eating a lot of carbs.

No one would stay under 20 carbs per day for long term, you'd lose too much weight and there'd be no reason for it. But I was under 60-80 carbs per day for years (still try to keep it as low as possible). I had the blood work done because, while I was pretty certain the "protein without carbs will shoot up your cholesterol" argument was BS, I wasn't sure (only 1 way to be sure), and I didn't want to damage my health. Plus, I love experiments.

Carrman 03-01-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead (Post 3801068)
Weight loss ... a Billion Dollar per year industry.

Eat LESS
Exercise MORE

How much did that cost you?

I think the theory behind low carbs is that in the absence of carbs to burn, your body begins burning fat. You body burns carbs, fat, then muscle, in that order.

Even though low carbs have been very effective for me, I still am not sure if I buy that theory 100%. The other idea is that your body is basically just a calorie counter, if you burn more calories than you intake on any given day, you will lose weight on that day, and vice versa.

But anyways, one of the benefits of low carbs that I found was that it helps you stay disciplined. It completely eliminates a LOT of foods from your diet. Basically, anything processed is gone, you are mostly eating whole foods - unprocessed chicken, fish, meat, veggies, nuts, salad, etc. Junk food is eliminated completely.

Tim Hancock 03-01-2008 07:38 AM

Your body converts unused carbs to fat....when on an extremely low carb diet (under 20 carbs/day), not only does your body quit adding to your fat, but your body switches gears and starts using reseves of fat for energy. To really get the large initial weight loss, you have to strictly keepyour carb intake VERY low to make your body start burning the fat instead of the carbs. Less than 20 grams of carbs per day takes a bit of research and label reading to attain. Basically anything with sugar is out and even some veggies have some carbs (carrots are bad). Fruit is also a no go. A glass of grape or orange juice will be about 30 grams of carbs.

When I did this for two weeks, I drank only black coffee (normally I do the cream and sugar) and I ate lots of plain hamburgers with no bun or condiments (2-3 double cheeseburgers from BK minus the buns), salads with a small amount of ranch dressing and some strips of ham/cheese, Grilled chicken, bacon and eggs, lunch meat, fish, cheese and small quantities of veggies. After two weeks, I was dying for a plate of pasta. I simply wanted to drop 10 lbs and it pretty much worked. Those who want to lose more eventually slowly start increasing carb intake as they approach their target weight then the goal is to stay on a "somewhat" low carb diet from there on to keep the weight off.

As I state earlier, I don't claim that eating a bunch of greasy burgers and bacon is healthy, but my cholesteral is very low and I was not worried in the least bit that two weeks of a non nutritious diet would hurt me long term. The first week is easy and I loved shoveling all the meat down my gullet and still seeing a weight loss each morning, but by the end of the second week, I was ready to start eating my normal food again. ;)

Buckterrier 03-01-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrman (Post 3801325)
I think the theory behind low carbs is that in the absence of carbs to burn, your body begins burning fat. You body burns carbs, fat, then muscle, in that order.

Isn't it glycogen, muscle, then fat? Fat is the hardest thing to access. Think of your body as a carburetor. It needs fuel, (gas), and oxygen. If you starve it of oxygen it won't function properly. Your body needs fuel, (glycogen and or fat), and oxygen. If you can't get enough oxygen you can't burn the fat. You'll burn muscle. That's why sedentary folks loose muscle mass as much if not more than they loose fat when dieting.
Lets say you want to lift weights and run a few miles as your exercise for the day. And your goal is to loose weight, (fat). You'd lift first as that burns the glycogen. Then when you run you'll burn fat.
What's great is when people say the cut down on carbs. Don't get me wrong, they are. But if people understood just how little a body needs it would amaze most, (approx. 120 grams a day). Think about it, you "snack" on a package of Twinkes. 50 grams in the little buggers, damn near two meals worth.
But as stated above , basically eat less and exercise more. Someone else stated above that to much carbs turns to fat, yes correct. But that also goes for protein and fat.


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