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tabs 02-28-2008 11:06 AM

The Master Buffeteer on A Buffet Diet
 
I have been on my Buffet diet since last April. I have lost close to 60 lbs on a 3000 calorie a day diet, without anymore exercise than lifting a silver spoon to my mouth. How do I do it, simple restrict the Carbs to under a 100 grams a day. I don't restrict calories and eat all the meat, eggs, veggies, cheese, butter, fish that I want. My Cholesteral level was 163 last time checked in September. The animal fats won't kill ya but the carbs will. That really means cut out Bread, Pasta, Rice, Potatoe and Sugar. These foods are your enemy Next time you go into a grocery store check out what they promote on the end of the aisles. Its all sugar and carbs. Read the packages and see what you are truly eating. Americans are in deep dodo with what they eat and the quanities. Major health problems await them at an ever earlier age, because of it.

For the past 6 months I have not really lost much weight until the past coupla weeks or so and now the scale is declining again. The only big change has been the removal of Aspartme as a sweetner in my coffee. I have switched to Splenda...yeah I have always taken big ones, so what else is new.

JavaBrewer 02-28-2008 11:13 AM

2500 calorie boring (very little meat & lotsa greens) diet and my Cholesterol was 290 so blow me Tabs ;)

I'm running alot more and going to the gym. Cut wine to weekends only and I'm nearing 15lbs weight loss, down to 190.

Sweetener in coffee...barf...black is the way to go dude - especially with that fancy Solvang espresso machine.

Tobra 02-28-2008 11:25 AM

Had a friend who lost a bunch of weight and I asked him about it. He says it is this new thing, Atkins Diet.

Me, "What is the story"
He, "You severely restrict your carbs..."
Me, "Not interested"
He, "Why not, I just told you that is how I lost all that weight."

I like pasta, bread, rice, potato and all things carbo loaded. I have been between 175 and 185 for the last 25 years, never had any troubles with cholesterol or BP. I can eat anything I want, but generally don't want to eat crappy for me stuff, so that is lucky. I have a full head of hair, might be one or two gray ones up there, but not many.

I am genetically blessed. Happy your diet is working out for you though.

tabs 02-28-2008 11:26 AM

It sounds like your buying into the Low Fat lie. Its all the processed Carbs you eat, by excercising more you are just burning them better thats all. Thats what Carbs are good for sustained physical activity..like working on a farm.

A glass of wine a day is good for ya.

Its all the processed Carbs that Americans consume thats the problem. That and the processed trans fats. I use real butter instead of Margrine, almost always have.

tabs 02-28-2008 11:34 AM

Tobra I have never been a Fast Food Addict, it has usually been the massive quanities.. When I have wanted to lose weight going back 30 years, I have always restricted Carbs to do it. I have also restricted calories before and sooner or later I would slowly gain 5 here and 5 there never giving them back.

I don't give a crap about Atkins or any other Diet plan. Except to know that Carbs are not my friend and thats what I need to limit.

It seems that my genetic makeup has a propensity for Carbs however without the sustained physical activity that is required to burn them, they go to fat.

cgarr 02-28-2008 11:41 AM

When I was at 210 I just quit eating so much and lost 40 lbs, still eat the same things just not so much. Dont take a crap so often either. And read this too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7233459.stm

The Gaijin 02-28-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3797852)
It sounds like your buying into the Low Fat lie.....

A glass of wine a day is good for ya.

Its all the processed Carbs that Americans consume thats the problem. That and the processed trans fats. I use real butter instead of Margrine, almost always have.

Amen to that! Eat as your grandparents did, or great-grandparents. (Adjusted of course for how much physical labor you do..) The processed carbs and factory food that is the problem.

Tobra 02-28-2008 11:49 AM

I eat bacon and eggs and put real cream and sugar in my coffee. Bad fat, bad carbs, something to that, but it is mostly crap. It is more a matter of not overdoing it, moderation in all things. To me it is a balance thing. If I don't like it, or am not hungry, I will not eat. If everyone did this there would not be too many fatties. About one day a month I will not eat much, if at all, just drink water and juice all day.

Never had much use for margarine, unless I am making those melt in your mouth sugar cookies. I like me some good red wine too. I am not a mass quantities sort of guy, rather have a little real good than a lot of mediocre.

Some people are just screwed on the genetics. Have a friend who ate healthy as can be, but his LDL/HDL ratio and total cholesterol were always jacked, bad genes.

72doug2,2S 02-28-2008 11:57 AM

Get off that couch turn the TV off and have lots more sex.

KFC911 02-28-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 3797881)
When I was at 210 I just quit eating so much and lost 40 lbs, still eat the same things just not so much....

Although I've gained some of it back, I did virtually the same thing several years ago (212 > 175) by simply backing away when I was "comfortably full" rather than the "eat all you can" mentality of when I was younger/more active.

Burnin' oil 02-28-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S (Post 3797909)
Get off that couch turn the TV off and have lots more sex.

I would, but I'm too tired.

Buckterrier 02-28-2008 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=tabs;3797821]I have been on my Buffet diet since last April. I have lost close to 60 lbs on a 3000 calorie a day diet, without anymore exercise than lifting a silver spoon to my mouth.
QUOTE]

BULL ******* ****E. That's like saying you put gas in your car, don't drive it, and have to keep putting gas in it.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, actually your funny, nice try

Tobra 02-28-2008 03:57 PM

you make a good point Buck, 3000 Calories is a lot, you should have found 50 lbs, not lost them

Pretty simple way to lose weight. Eat a balanced, reasonable diet and take in less calories than you use.



If rice is all that fattening, why aren't there more fat Asians? For example, the traditional rice and fish Japanese diet will let you live to 100 and not worry much about heart disease. It was when they started eating McD's and pizza, smoking and drinking scotch where they got in trouble there.

dd74 02-28-2008 04:07 PM

And Italians. Pasta and breads are staples. I don't hear of many weight issues among Italians. Is it portion size? :confused:

BRPORSCHE 02-28-2008 04:12 PM

I call BS on a few things here. Eating that many calories regardless of how many carbs you eat isn't going to let you lose massive amounts of mass. Eating in moderation will. 6 small meals a day are all you need. Unless you are doing strenous work during the day other then lifting the silver spoon. In my prime I'd say I ate 3,000 calories a day easy. I never gained an ounce. It's once you keep eating like that and stop doing the exersise is when you put it on.

Also, not eating is bad. Eat to a balanced diet in moderation, and you will have nothing to worry about at all.

Buckterrier 02-28-2008 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Tobra;3798348]

Pretty simple way to lose weight. Eat a balanced, reasonable diet and take in less calories than you use. QUOTE]

Bottom line.
But, maybe he has a tape worm that consumes 2,999 calories ;)

tabs 02-28-2008 04:43 PM

Shaun, Legion and Randy do I lie? U have seen me eat since I have gone on my Buffet diet?

Buckterrier 02-28-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3797821)
How do I do it, simple restrict the Carbs to under a 100 grams a day. I don't restrict calories and eat all the meat, eggs, veggies, cheese, butter, fish that I want. My Cholesteral level was 163 last time checked in September. The animal fats won't kill ya but the carbs will. That really means cut out Bread, Pasta, Rice, Potato and Sugar. These foods are your enemy Next time you go into a grocery store check out what they promote on the end of the aisles. Its all sugar and carbs. Read the packages and see what you are truly eating. Americans are in deep dodo with what they eat and the quanities. Major health problems await them at an ever earlier age, because of it.


I agree 100% with the bread, pasta, rice, potato, sugar comment. But you say you are "restricting" yourself to 100 grams? If what you say is true, that you don't exercise that is still too many. I trained for a 1/2 marathon, crossed trained with weight training and lived on 130 grams of carbs, 80 grams protein & 40 grams of fat daily.
Three nutrients... carbs, fat & protein. if you take in more than you need of ANY of them you will store the excess as fat. If you are Arnold you need a ton of protein, that builds muscle. If you're Lance you need a ton of carbs, for all the energy he needs. Also, your brain lives on carbs. And fat well you need that for good skin, etc.
And you are right food is killing America.

tabs 02-28-2008 05:43 PM

Under 100 grams a day...more in the hood of 60 to 80 grams. sometimes less. I will eat a big Rib Eye with a salad drenched in Ranch Dressing. Along with to low carb flour tortillas. That alone is probably close to 2500 calories.

Buckterrier 02-28-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3798558)
Under 100 grams a day...more in the hood of 60 to 80 grams. sometimes less. I will eat a big Rib Eye with a salad drenched in Ranch Dressing. Along with to low carb flour tortillas. That alone is probably close to 2500 calories.

That's great. But the fat in the rib-eye, (any meat with the word 'rib' is extra fatty), is just building plaque in your arteries. One of the ways you MAY be losing weight is you are losing muscle mass, (it weighs more than fat), and gaining fat. But I still can't buy losing weight at 3,000 calories a day.

Buckterrier 02-28-2008 06:26 PM

an 18oz. rib-eye would be approx. 1,600 calories, and 145 grams of fat. :eek:
That's enough fat in one meal for 10 days?????????????
Better lay off the ranch dressing ;)

dd74 02-28-2008 08:26 PM

Pro cyclists burn 3,000 calories a day. Just something to consider...

Tim Hancock 02-29-2008 04:02 AM

I don't know how many calories I was taking in, but I did the Atkins deal for two weeks a couple months ago. I was staying at about 20 grams of carbs a day by eating bacon, turkey ham, chicken, hamburgers without the bun, steak, cheese, salad w/ a bit of ranch dressing, black coffee and lots of water. I lost 8 lbs and was stuffing myself on the above food items.

It was great at first, but I could only swing it for two weeks. I had recently had blood work done and suprisingly my cholesteral numbers were all real good, so I was not worried about the temporary fat intake in regards to my two week bacon bonanza.

Bottom line..... extremely low carb diets work, but long term, I don't think they are very healthy.

cgarr 02-29-2008 11:29 AM

Maybe this will work for you?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...91/fitness.jpg

dd74 02-29-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3799107)
Bottom line..... extremely low carb diets work, but long term, I don't think they are very healthy.

This is correct. The carbs are the fuel to help burn the protein. If a person eats large portions of protein without any carbs, they'll be a stopped-up glob of cholesterol.

tabs 02-29-2008 01:08 PM

I really don't care what you believe or don't believe. I have lost close to 60 lbs, by restricting Carbs to under 100 grams a day. There is no problem with maintaing that level. Last time my Cholesteral level was 163...so you can go figure it out.

dd74 02-29-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3800163)
I have lost close to 60 lbs.

Cutting off your head doesn't count. SmileWavy

tabs 02-29-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3800208)
Cutting off your head doesn't count. SmileWavy

Yes yes now I am just a talking head.

Buckterrier 02-29-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3800427)
Yes yes now I am just a talking head.

Um... that would be cutting off your body. ;)

dd74 02-29-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 3800436)
Um... that would be cutting off your body. ;)

He means the other head. :D

Scott R 02-29-2008 05:32 PM

The diet works, however you can't really ever get off it. The real key is to become efficient in processing what you're taking in. I've lost a 100lbs, and have kept it off now for 4 years, I'm 40 soon, and I'm ripped enough to be on the cover of Men's Health magazine, but it takes a great deal of time. Between weight training and cardio, and custom meal planning its a full time job.

Good for you Tabs, congratulations on your weight loss and keep it up! Whatever works, and whatever you like, is good for you.

Buckterrier 02-29-2008 06:35 PM

So it's all about weight and not health? hmmmm

Scott R 02-29-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckterrier (Post 3800727)
So it's all about weight and not health? hmmmm


Still healthy, less stress on the heart and other organs.

LakeCleElum 02-29-2008 08:46 PM

I dunno, I'm kinda depressed about all this....After I take my meds in the mornings, I've exceeded my calorie intake for the day????? Where do you go from there?

Buckterrier 03-01-2008 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 3800740)
Still healthy, less stress on the heart and other organs.

Eating a 20 oz. rib-eye is never healthy, sure losing weight is obviously better for you. But replacing muscle and bone mass with plaque in your arteries... I don't know.
And I commend you for your weight loss.

Mo_Gearhead 03-01-2008 04:04 AM

Weight loss ... a Billion Dollar per year industry.

Eat LESS
Exercise MORE

How much did that cost you?

Carrman 03-01-2008 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3799971)
This is correct. The carbs are the fuel to help burn the protein. If a person eats large portions of protein without any carbs, they'll be a stopped-up glob of cholesterol.

I was on low carbs for several years, had blood work done before, during and after, and my cholestrol never went up.

There's several ways to lose weight, but cutting carbs is one of the most effective ways. I quickly and easily lost 45+ lbs, and have kept it off for 5 years now. During the first few years I exercised quite a bit, but I haven't exercised one bit in the past year or so, and have still kept the weight off by not eating a lot of carbs.

No one would stay under 20 carbs per day for long term, you'd lose too much weight and there'd be no reason for it. But I was under 60-80 carbs per day for years (still try to keep it as low as possible). I had the blood work done because, while I was pretty certain the "protein without carbs will shoot up your cholesterol" argument was BS, I wasn't sure (only 1 way to be sure), and I didn't want to damage my health. Plus, I love experiments.

Carrman 03-01-2008 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead (Post 3801068)
Weight loss ... a Billion Dollar per year industry.

Eat LESS
Exercise MORE

How much did that cost you?

I think the theory behind low carbs is that in the absence of carbs to burn, your body begins burning fat. You body burns carbs, fat, then muscle, in that order.

Even though low carbs have been very effective for me, I still am not sure if I buy that theory 100%. The other idea is that your body is basically just a calorie counter, if you burn more calories than you intake on any given day, you will lose weight on that day, and vice versa.

But anyways, one of the benefits of low carbs that I found was that it helps you stay disciplined. It completely eliminates a LOT of foods from your diet. Basically, anything processed is gone, you are mostly eating whole foods - unprocessed chicken, fish, meat, veggies, nuts, salad, etc. Junk food is eliminated completely.

Tim Hancock 03-01-2008 07:38 AM

Your body converts unused carbs to fat....when on an extremely low carb diet (under 20 carbs/day), not only does your body quit adding to your fat, but your body switches gears and starts using reseves of fat for energy. To really get the large initial weight loss, you have to strictly keepyour carb intake VERY low to make your body start burning the fat instead of the carbs. Less than 20 grams of carbs per day takes a bit of research and label reading to attain. Basically anything with sugar is out and even some veggies have some carbs (carrots are bad). Fruit is also a no go. A glass of grape or orange juice will be about 30 grams of carbs.

When I did this for two weeks, I drank only black coffee (normally I do the cream and sugar) and I ate lots of plain hamburgers with no bun or condiments (2-3 double cheeseburgers from BK minus the buns), salads with a small amount of ranch dressing and some strips of ham/cheese, Grilled chicken, bacon and eggs, lunch meat, fish, cheese and small quantities of veggies. After two weeks, I was dying for a plate of pasta. I simply wanted to drop 10 lbs and it pretty much worked. Those who want to lose more eventually slowly start increasing carb intake as they approach their target weight then the goal is to stay on a "somewhat" low carb diet from there on to keep the weight off.

As I state earlier, I don't claim that eating a bunch of greasy burgers and bacon is healthy, but my cholesteral is very low and I was not worried in the least bit that two weeks of a non nutritious diet would hurt me long term. The first week is easy and I loved shoveling all the meat down my gullet and still seeing a weight loss each morning, but by the end of the second week, I was ready to start eating my normal food again. ;)

Buckterrier 03-01-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrman (Post 3801325)
I think the theory behind low carbs is that in the absence of carbs to burn, your body begins burning fat. You body burns carbs, fat, then muscle, in that order.

Isn't it glycogen, muscle, then fat? Fat is the hardest thing to access. Think of your body as a carburetor. It needs fuel, (gas), and oxygen. If you starve it of oxygen it won't function properly. Your body needs fuel, (glycogen and or fat), and oxygen. If you can't get enough oxygen you can't burn the fat. You'll burn muscle. That's why sedentary folks loose muscle mass as much if not more than they loose fat when dieting.
Lets say you want to lift weights and run a few miles as your exercise for the day. And your goal is to loose weight, (fat). You'd lift first as that burns the glycogen. Then when you run you'll burn fat.
What's great is when people say the cut down on carbs. Don't get me wrong, they are. But if people understood just how little a body needs it would amaze most, (approx. 120 grams a day). Think about it, you "snack" on a package of Twinkes. 50 grams in the little buggers, damn near two meals worth.
But as stated above , basically eat less and exercise more. Someone else stated above that to much carbs turns to fat, yes correct. But that also goes for protein and fat.


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