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VINMAN 03-03-2008 03:18 PM

I would have given those $cumbags a rifle butt right to the back of the head!:mad: Sick fuchers!
I agree with Moses. What makes anyone think they are fake? Even if that was a flashbang, it was still close enough to kill the dog.

Jeff Higgins 03-03-2008 04:13 PM

It's hard to say if the dog is fake or not. Even if it's fake (and I sincerely hope it is), it's not hard to guess the status of the soldiers. They are most certainly fake. Fake humans. I wonder if their mothers have seen this?

Tim Hancock 03-03-2008 04:15 PM

I am more disturbed by the fact that some Americans would choose to parade these atrocities around on the internet to further destroy support for the efforts of our military.

stomachmonkey 03-03-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3805956)
I am more disturbed by the fact that some Americans would choose to parade these atrocities around on the internet to further destroy support for the efforts of our military.

I'm more disturbed that you would try to hide it to save face.

While I do not agree with a lot of your positions on things I've always thought you had a pretty good moral compass and respected that.

And lets not forget which Americans started the parade.

The same a55hats that shot the video.

ZOA NOM 03-03-2008 04:33 PM

Wow, talk about a frenzy. It's fake. Let it go.

Dave L 03-03-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 3805985)
Wow, talk about a frenzy. It's fake. Let it go.

How do you know its fake? I normally look on snopes for this type of stuff but cant find anything.

ZOA NOM 03-03-2008 04:48 PM

I watched it. It's obviously a stuffed animal. What's sad is how quickly some people will believe it and vilify the entire Armed Forces.

Tim Hancock 03-03-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 3805982)
I'm more disturbed that you would try to hide it to save face.

While I do not agree with a lot of your positions on things I've always thought you had a pretty good moral compass and respected that.

And lets not forget which Americans started the parade.

The same a55hats that shot the video.


I wouldn't say I tried to hide it. I would say that your kneejerk somewhat hostile reaction is exactly the reaction that those who post this crap is looking for.

Moses 03-03-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 3806031)
I watched it. It's obviously a stuffed animal. .

That's the one thing it's NOT.

the 03-03-2008 06:03 PM

I don't think it's a stuffed animal, but the video is, at best, very inconclusive as to whether it was a living dog or not. If I had to fathom a guess, I'd say it was a puppy which was already dead.

Moses 03-03-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3806192)
I don't think it's a stuffed animal, but the video is, at best, very inconclusive as to whether it was a living dog or not. If I had to fathom a guess, I'd say it was a puppy which was already dead.

When you pick up (live) puppies by the neck, their hind legs flex and their front legs extend. It's a reflex. Hard for a dead puppy to do that.

I am thoroughly disgusted.

ZOA NOM 03-03-2008 06:32 PM

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krichard 03-03-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 3806249)
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Dbj1hA-Vczg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Dbj1hA-Vczg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

So that makes it ok for a solder to kill a puppy? You're heartless.

ZOA NOM 03-03-2008 06:53 PM

I'll say it again. The puppy video IS A FAKE.

stomachmonkey 03-03-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3806039)
I wouldn't say I tried to hide it. I would say that your kneejerk somewhat hostile reaction is exactly the reaction that those who post this crap is looking for.

My kneejerk reaction was to a guy who tossed a puppy into a ravine. Not to a soldier.

Whether the puppy is alive, dead, real, stuffed is irrelevant.

They wanted the viewer to believe it was real.

It is sadistic plain and simple.

And if it turns out that this is truly an American soldier then he is an idiot for
a) doing it
b) video taping it
c) leaving it unguarded so those hand wringing libs could find it and post it on the net and thoroughly undermine the entire US military


krichard 03-03-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 3806304)
I'll say it again. The puppy video IS A FAKE.

You're in denial. The dog may have been dead to begin with, but REAL! You can see the weight of the dog as is sways when he's holding it. I truely hope you're right, but it looks too real to just quickly dissmiss as fake.

the 03-03-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krichard (Post 3806313)
I truely hope you're right, but it looks too real to just quickly dissmiss as fake.

But it's also too unclear to just quickly accept as real.

targa911S 03-03-2008 07:04 PM

Man if you think WE are upset by this..go here and read the comments: http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2008/03/david-motari-ab.html

Dave L 03-03-2008 07:04 PM

Even if the puppy were dead that hardly makes it okay. The person who made the video obviously intended the viewer to belive that the puppy was alive. In my opinion its more than just a little sick. I hope it is fake.

Buckterrier 03-03-2008 07:06 PM

I still haven't watched it but from the comments it's TOTALLY OFFENSIVE to me. Doing whatever is being done to the dog is not offensive while a bare breast is? Now that is truely comical.


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