Dutch House Member Speaks Out

[Mule]

Madam Speaker, allow me, first, to express my sincere thanks to you personally for having planned a debate on Islam on the very day of my birthday. I could not have wished for a nicer present! Madam Speaker, approximately 1400 years ago war was declared on us by an ideology of hate and violence which arose at the time and was proclaimed by a
barbarian who called himself the Prophet Mohammed. I am referring to Islam.


Madam Speaker, let me start with the foundation of the Islamic faith, the Koran. The Koran's core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war "“ a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30).

Madam Speaker, the West has no problems with Jews or Christians, but it does have problems with Islam. It is still possible, even today, for Muslims to view the Koran, which they regard as valid for all time, as a licence to kill. And that is exactly what happens. The Koran is worded in such a way that its instructions are addressed to Muslims for eternity, which includes today's Muslims. This in contrast to texts in the Bible, which is formulated as a number of historical narratives, placing events in a distant past. Let us remind ourselves that it was Muslims, not Jews or Christians, who committed the catastrophic terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London; and that it was no coincidence that Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered by a Muslim, Mohammed Bouyeri.

Madam Speaker, I acknowledge that there are people who call themselves Muslims and who respect our laws. My party, the Freedom Party, has nothing against such people, of course. However, the Koran does have something against them. For it is stated in the Koran in Sura 2, verse 85, that those believers who do not believe in everything the Koran states will be humiliated and receive the severest punishment; which means that they will roast in Hell. In other words, people who call themselves Muslims but who do not believe, for example, in Sura 9, verse 30, which states that Jews and Christians must be fought, or, for example, in Sura 5, verse 38, which states that the hand of a thief must be cut off, such people will be humiliated and roast in Hell. Note that it is not me who is making this up. All this can be found in the Koran. The Koran also states that Muslims who believe in only part of the Koran are in fact apostates, and we know what has to happen to apostates. They have to be killed.

Madam Speaker, the Koran is a book that incites to violence. I remind the House that the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code. In addition, the Koran incites to hatred and calls for murder and mayhem. The distribution of such texts is made punishable by Article 137(e). The Koran is therefore a highly dangerous book; a book which is completely against our legal order and our democratic institutions. In this light, it is an absolute necessity that the Koran be banned for the defence and reinforcement of our civilisation and our constitutional state. I shall propose a second-reading motion to that effect.

Madam Speaker, there is no such thing as "moderate Islam".... As Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan said the other day, and I quote, "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it".... Islam is in pursuit of dominance. It wishes to exact its imperialist agenda by force on a worldwide scale (8:39). This is clear from European history. Fortunately, the first Islamic invasion of Europe was stopped at Poitiers in 732; the second in Vienna in 1683. Madam Speaker, let us ensure that the third Islamic invasion, which is currently in full spate, will be stopped too in spite of its insidious nature and notwithstanding the fact that, in contrast to the 8th and 17th centuries, it has no need for an Islamic army because the scared "dhimmis"� in the West, also those in Dutch politics, have left their doors wide open to Islam and Muslims.

Apart from conquest, Madam Speaker, Islam is also bent on installing a totally different form of law and order, namely Sharia law. This makes Islam, apart from a religion for hundreds of millions of Muslims also, and in particular, a political ideology (with political/constitutional/Islamic basic values, etc). Islam is an ideology without any respect for others; not for Christians, not for Jews, not for non-believers and not for apostates. Islam aims to dominate, subject, kill and wage war.

Madam Speaker, the Islamic incursion must be stopped. Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time. One century ago, there were approximately 50 Muslims in the Netherlands. Today, there are about 1 million Muslims in this country. Where will it end? We are heading for the end of European and Dutch civilisation as we know it. Where is our Prime Minister in all this? In reply to my questions in the House he said, without batting an eyelid, that there is no question of our country being Islamified. Now, this reply constituted
a historical error as soon as it was uttered. Very many Dutch citizens, Madam Speaker, experience the presence of Islam around them. And I can report that they have had enough of burkas, headscarves, the ritual slaughter of animals, so-called honour revenge, blaring minarets, female circumcision, hymen restoration operations, abuse of homosexuals, Turkish and Arabic on the buses and trains as well as on town hall leaflets, halal meat at grocery shops and department stores, Sharia exams, the Finance Minister's Sharia mortgages, and the enormous overrepresentation of Muslims in the area of crime, including Moroccan street terrorists.

In spite of all this, Madam Speaker, there is hope. Fortunately. The majority of Dutch citizens have become fully aware of the danger, and regard Islam as a threat to our culture. My party, the Freedom Party, takes those citizens seriously and comes to their defence.

Many Dutch citizens are fed up to the back teeth and yearn for action. However, their representatives in The Hague are doing
precisely nothing. They are held back by fear, political correctness or simply electoral motives. This is particularly clear in the case of PvdA, the Dutch Labour Party, which is afraid of losing Muslim voters. The Prime Minister said in Indonesia the other day that Islam does not pose any danger. Minister Donner believes that Sharia law should be capable of being introduced in the Netherlands if the majority want it. Minister Vogelaar babbles about the future Netherlands as a country with a Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition, and that she aims to help Islam take root in Dutch society. In saying this, the Minister shows that she has obviously gone stark raving mad. She is betraying Dutch culture and insulting Dutch citizens.

Madam Speaker, my party, the Freedom Party, demands that Minister Vogelaar retract her statement. If the Minister fails to do so, the Freedom Party parliamentary group will withdraw its support for her. No Islamic tradition must ever be established in the Netherlands: not now and also not in a few centuries' time.

Madam Speaker, let me briefly touch on the government's response to the WRR [Netherlands Scientific Council for Government Policy] report. On page 12 of its response, the government states that Islam is not contrary to democracy or human rights. All I can say to that is that things can't get much more idiotic than this.

Madam Speaker, it is a few minutes to twelve. If we go on like this, Islam will herald the end of our Western civilisation as well as Dutch culture.

I would like to round off my first-reading contribution with a personal appeal to the Prime Minister on behalf of a great many Dutch citizens: stop the Islamification of the Netherlands!

Mr Balkenende, a historic task rests on your shoulders. Be courageous. Do what many Dutch citizens are screaming out for. Do what the country needs. Stop all immigration from Muslim countries, ban all building of new mosques, close all Islamic schools, ban burkas and the Koran. Expel all criminal Muslims from the country, including those Moroccan street terrorists that drive people mad. Accept your responsibility! Stop Islamification!

Enough is enough, Mr Balkenende. Enough is enough.

[Joeaksa]

Just to make sure that everyone knows that this is true, pls look here:

http://www.michaelsavage.com/savage-geert-wilders.html

This speech was given by Geert Wilder, a member of the Dutch parlement.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313741,00.html

Holland is a bit defensive after a number of killings by Moslems of their citizens. They have the strongest anti-moslem laws in the EEC now, most of the enacted after the killing of Theo van Gogh by a fanatical Islamic member.

[NICKG]

livi will be an islamic soon..so will the brits

[Rikao4]

Germany is all but done as well.
Rika

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by NICKG

livi will be an islamic soon..so will the brits

The Brits are fighting back. They are pissed off at all this crap and are standing up to them. Not to the point that the Dutch are but close.

[kach22i]

He has a 10 minute film too.

300 Afghan MPs protest geert wilder's islamophobic film
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/300-afghan-mps-protest-geert-wilders-islamophobic-film


http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018967.php

If the film is hard-hitting, it could evoke hard-hitting reactions against himself and others,’ says the minister. Those who want a free debate must show respect for all religions and for things that are sacrosanct for others, he said.

Wilders says it is not the aim of his film to insult people but if they are insulted, that is ‘a pity but not my problem’. He says he wants Muslims to realise that the Koran is a ‘terrible and fascist’ book which inspires people to commit ‘terrible’ deeds.

The guy is a little freaky looking...............not sure what that really means.

http://www.religiouswatch.com/rw0308.htm


http://www.themidnightsun.org/?cat=4

[Dutchie]

Wilders is a fool forget him please come over here and see for yourself first before thinking you know it all never leaving your keyboard. I think Joe was here before it,s not that bad

[onewhippedpuppy]

I predict he will be dead in a very short time. A martyr against Islam if you will.

[Rikao4]

Dutchie,
glad you think it's not that bad ,

the Dutch are waiting for what &
at what point would you call it 'bad' ?
Rika

[Dutchie]

not waiting for anything you ? guys your worried about our little cheese eating country now ?

[Mule]

What about Theo van Gogh. Do you think he thinks it's bad?

[Rikao4]

guess your almost pregnant then

Rika

[Mule]

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Dutchie

Wilders is a fool forget him please come over here and see for yourself first before thinking you know it all never leaving your keyboard. I think Joe was here before it,s not that bad

I lived 60 kilometers away from Holland for many years, and went there most weekends to shop. Was there last 4 weeks ago. Yep, know the country fairly well and love Holland.

Wilders may be a fool but part of what he says is correct. We need to stop changing our lives to accomodate the moslems.

[svandamme]

he's a right wing zelot, an extremist just the same

his movie stunt, does make a point, but that's not what he wants to do

if all he wanted to do , was make a point
he would allready have made it

because the islamic dillholes in Afghanistan, are burning flags because they are insulted about a movie they haven't seen yet
So the point is proven, they are oversensitive, intolerant, incompatible and freedom of speech hating...
But Wilders wants to do more, he wants to show that he can do it, no matter what
bit like Cartman in Southpark does

To him it's not enough to show that there is a problem of incompatibility, it's not enough to point out the problems, no, he has to aggravate, sink to their level, be extreme in the opposite...
If all he wanted to do , was make the movie, he could have
the movie could have been on Bittorent, and Youtube by now, and chances are, nobody would have given a ****, maybe it's even a crap movie, maybe it's not even watchable, or maybe the message in it is just lame, who knows

but no , the movie is not the point
pissing off as much people as possible , that's his point
and that's no different from what OBL does, pissing people off, without even trying to work to a solution, polarizing the population, spread fear, and play with it...

I'm not saying that things are ok as they are
trust me, i'm not voting for more mosques
but pissing people off, for the sake of pissing them off, serves no purpose


This movie thing is great, all he has to do now, is build it up some more
get the towel heads to burn a couple of flags, maybe an empty dutch embassy or something

And then at the moment when it's being released, instead do a big opening, of a documentary how towel heads got all upset, about a movie that doesn't exist, and show how they got offended in their own paranoid and distorted view of things

That would prove and accomplish more then Fitna ever hope could prove
But it would surprise me incredible, if that's what he would do
knowing wilders, i'm pretty sure that he has a major movie, intended to piss off even the most moderate and friendly Muslims out there

[Rick Lee]

I've been to Holland many, many times too. Love it there. But I don't know much about their domestic politics.

[svandamme]

domestic politics is a bunch of knobheads
no different then anywhere else

The main difference, is that the Dutch like to talk
and talk, and have meetings, and meetings
They like to hear themself talk, a lot

Example at work

quarterly meeting, this time in Belgium, 4 dutch drive over
we plan 14h00 till 17h00

presenter says something about scalability , in a certain context
some consultant, speaks up, and starts debating the use of the word scalability in that context
mind you, it's pretty obvious what the meaning was, because of the context, there is no confusion about what it said

ok, that's 15 minutes pissed away
you might think, that's not much
but there are 4 dutchies at the table
and they all come up with at least 2 10minute + self serving + look at me, i'm interesting, BS timewasters

now it's 18h00, the Belgians sit there looking at the clock, bored and annoyed,
while the dutchies are still yapping away, filling up on liters of coffee
And the really silly part ? They drove 2-3 hours to get to our office, and have a 2-3 hours drive back to their, you would think they would want to wrap it up and get back home , no, no the dutch, they rather stretch the meeting to the max, yap away!

Their 2nd chamber governement debates are just terribly stiff
speaker 1 can stand next to speaker 2
and have a debate that goes like this

1 madam chairman, i think speaker 2 is wrong
2 madam charman, i'de like to make the point that speaker 1 is wrong when he says i'm wrong, because i'm right
1 madam chairman, i am outraged by this (spoken without even changing the tone of voice), i demand that speaker 2 apologizes for his behaviour
2 madam chairman, i would like to excuse myself, for stepping on the toes of speaker 1

...
...
...


At one time, a Belgian politician had said that Balkenende looked like a stiff upperclass harry potter.. (he does looke like HP a bit)
They called the Belgian embassador in Den hage , and demanded apologies(proving they are stiff upperclass dolts)

to my embarrasment, the Belgian politician did apologize
it's terrible, he IS a stiff upper class knob, and the DOES look like HP
so how could one apologize for telling the truth ?!?!?

mind you , i don't rate Belgian politicians any better, in my eyes all politicians are untrustworthy self serving toads...show me a politician you can trust, and i'll show you a horse that can code flawless C++ , and at the same time paint the Mona Lisa with it's tail

[Jim Richards]

So Stijn, are you still a Dutchie?

[MRM]

My father spent two weekends there when he was in the Army and stationed in Germany in 1958. Does that count?

He never said, but from his stories I always gathered a girl was involved.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

So Stijn, are you still a Dutchie?

fightin' words!