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speeder 03-22-2008 09:39 PM

Sure it does; Bruce Willis, Charlton Heston, Tom Sellick, Arnold Schwartzeneger, Chuck Norris, et. al...

Granted, there are no talented Republican actors, so there may be other reasons not to see their films. But I've never heard any of the (mostly) lefty people in the arts say that the politics of a performer would make them boycott someone's work.

DARISC 03-22-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3844132)
Sure it does; Bruce Willis, Charlton Heston, Tom Sellick, Arnold Schwartzeneger, Chuck Norris, et. al...

Granted, there are no talented Republican actors, so there may be other reasons not to see their films. But I've never heard any of the (mostly) lefty people in the arts say that the politics of a performer would make them boycott someone's work.

I get a big kick out of watching the old movies with Republican fukwad actors, especially the old Ronnie and "the Duke" westerns.

varmint 03-22-2008 10:03 PM

I've never heard any of the (mostly) lefty people in the arts say that the politics of a performer would make them boycott someone's work.
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you haven't been listening closely then.

KaptKaos 03-22-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3844117)
It's only a red state, dittohead thing to care about entertainers' politics. I've never heard anyone on the left say that they would not see a film because it has some Republican fukwad in it.

Speeder, why do you have to go there?

I don't hate these people, don't consider them my "enemy" or anything else like that. They have every right to say what ever they want to. I choose not to support them. I am not a dittohead and I live in California so your epithets mean nothing to me.

Are the actors the only ones that can have opinions here? Why is it that if someone disagrees with them, they can't use their dollars the way they want??

Your logic confounds me.

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3844132)
Sure it does; Bruce Willis, Charlton Heston, Tom Sellick, Arnold Schwartzeneger, Chuck Norris, et. al...

Granted, there are no talented Republican actors, so there may be other reasons not to see their films. But I've never heard any of the (mostly) lefty people in the arts say that the politics of a performer would make them boycott someone's work.

That's because conservatives in Hollywood are in the closet for the most part. Only after they have made it big do they come out. The fact that you can name most of them should give you some indication of the overwhelming bias. A very good friend of mine is a writer and he just keeps his mouth shut and toes the party line for fear of being blacklisted.

DARISC 03-22-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 3844162)
Speeder, why do you have to go there?

Go where? To a place where there isn't a right wing Republican consensus on lefty actors?

I don't hate these people, don't consider them my "enemy" or anything else like that.

O.k. ....and?

They have every right to say what ever they want to.

Why yes! They do!

I choose not to support them.

By "not supporting them", do you mean paying to see films they are in? Which indicates that you are probably NOT a lefty, correct? O.k.

I am not a dittohead

That's admirable.

and I live in California so your epithets mean nothing to me.

I'll bet Speeder suspected that not everyone would place meaning on his "epithets".

Are the actors the only ones that can have opinions here?

Of course not. Why would you even ask such a question?

Why is it that if someone disagrees with them, they can't use their dollars the way they want??

They can't? Who says they can't? I'd simply ignore them if I were you.

Your logic confounds me.

His logic? Can you be specific as to what Denis said which logic confounds you?

That's because conservatives in Hollywood are in the closet for the most part. Only after they have made it big do they come out. The fact that you can name most of them should give you some indication of the overwhelming bias.

??? Your logic confounds me.

A very good friend of mine is a writer and he just keeps his mouth shut and toes the party line for fear of being blacklisted.

That is truly a shame. A writer, of all people, should have the courage of his convictions.

yawn...

Sonic dB 03-22-2008 10:55 PM

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What actors/actresses/entertainer won't you go to see because their politics overshadow their talent ?
Here's a short list of mine..
none. there is a reason that they are called 'actors'.

ok....well, i wouldnt go see OJ Simpson if he ever gets another part (doubtful)...but thats about it.

politics and a good story/film acting are incongruent.

billyboy 03-23-2008 03:37 AM

"Granted, there are no talented Republican actors" I can understand this since acting is basically lying or putting on a false face, fooling people into thinking the actor is someone who they really aren't......:D

DanielDudley 03-23-2008 04:33 AM

I go to see the movies that interest me.

I would expect that everyone does the same, and I would not expect that liberals making liberal comments in liberal movies would be a fun evening for a lot of Americans.

It is a free country. Do as you please. As an individual.

Mo_Gearhead 03-23-2008 06:01 AM

Haven't set foot in a movie theater in years.

Have I missed anything of real importance???

(Hummmm) .....Nah!

widgeon13 03-23-2008 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 3844101)
Sean Penn
Tim Robbins
Susan Sarandon
Tom Cruise
Barbra Streisand
Rob Reiner
Jane Fonda

I've been avoiding these actors for years. I don't go to a lot of movies to begin with, but I will not pay anything to see anything by these people if I can help it.

I do care about their politics. They are not my "enemy" but I see no point in helping someone I disagree with make a living.

EDIT: Almost forgot Ben Afleck, not only do I dislike his politics, but he's a terrible actor.

Pretty much my list as well.

CJFusco 03-23-2008 07:05 AM

Some of you guys are ridiculous. You won't see an actor's movie because you disagree with their politics? What do an actor's politics have to do with how good a movie is? There are actors who I just don't like, and this effects my enjoyment of the movie. If you don't like Sean Penn, then you just don't like Sean Penn, but even though I am damn-near obsessed with politics I never went to a movie thinking about the actors' political views. It's not like buying a movie ticket casts a vote for one side or another. Hell, I can't stand Clarkson's views on almost ANYTHING, but I still love TOP GEAR...

speeder 03-23-2008 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 3844162)
A very good friend of mine is a writer and he just keeps his mouth shut and toes the party line for fear of being blacklisted.

He must not have much talent. I can tell you with absolute authority that good scripts are so rare and valuable in Hollywood that if one was discovered by Adolph Hitler, the agent would simply change the name of the author and sell it for millions. "Blacklisted" for being a Republican? That's really funny. Yeah, John Millius really had a hard time as a writer out here, didn't he? And Steve McQueen, nobody wanted to work with him. :rolleyes:

People mask their insecurities many different ways in this business, if that makes your friend feel better, so be it. As to the rest of your post, it's either a misinterpretation of what I wrote or simply incomprehensible. My point is that no one on earth who is serious about art, whether it be film/theatre/literature/fine arts gives a rat's ass about the personality of the creator. It's an assumed truth, a given, that many if not most talented and brilliant people are weirdos, and that's putting it mildly.

There are performers that I will not see because I cannot stand the sight of them, but I have no idea what their political views are, nor do I care. A more relevant issue would be actors whom I know personally and cannot stand, but can't take my eyes off of them on screen because they are brilliant actors. This is true of pretty much anyone who works in the industry with actors. Many of them, including ones that you conservatives love to watch, are real twats.

varmint 03-23-2008 09:08 AM

absurd.

you're right in that there's an absence of good scripts. look at "valley of elah", "a mighty heart", "rendition", "lions for lambs", "redacted", and the twenty other liberal anti war turds that sank like stones. strange that the studios are willing to keep squandering money on masturbatory leftist rants. they have to know by now that they'll lose millions.

i guarantee any right winger could write something just as bad as that. but he'll never be given the chance. the passion of the christ grossed something like 500 million. how many offers is mel gibson getting lately?


i work at an ad agency in santa monica sometimes. i can over hear the mullet haired creative director on the phone discussing freelancers. before hiring one, she always asks "is he/she on the team?". hollywood has been described as highschool with money. and the sexually confused eco marxists are the dominant clique. they hire who they like. and oppress everyone else. if they even suspected my politics, i'd be out of there.

Tobra 03-23-2008 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3844117)
It's only a red state, dittohead thing to care about entertainers' politics. I've never heard anyone on the left say that they would not see a film because it has some Republican fukwad in it.

I have heard that plenty, but what I have heard more is that conservatives in the entertainment industry are generally reticent to speak their minds due to likely adverse repercussions to their careers.

Go ahead, name 10 conservative republican actors that are even half as looney toons as Babs Strident. You can't count Ronald Reagan, because he did not act after he became conservative, can't count John Wayne because he is dead, and you can't count Ahnold because he is not really conservative, and GO.

Oh, and the guys that won't go to their movies due to political views may be voting with their wallets. Why give money to someone who you are absolutely certain will spend it on something abhorrent to you?

DARISC 03-23-2008 11:01 AM

Yo! Tobra!

Basng your beliefs solely on what you choose accept of what you hear can distort one's vision and lead to trouble. I'm sure you'll agree that it pays to consider one's choices very carefully, because,

"The trouble with too many people is they believe the realm of truth always lies within their vision"

Abraham Lincoln

KaptKaos 03-23-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3844547)
Many of them, including ones that you conservatives love to watch, are real twats.

Why do you continue to lower this discourse? ****wads, Twats, Dittoheads, whatever.. Why do you feel the need to do this?

I personally will not pay money to see entertainment of any type when I know the performer uses his/her money and influence to lobby or support issues that I disagree with.

You got a problem with that?

speeder 03-23-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 3844890)
Why do you continue to lower this discourse? ****wads, Twats, Dittoheads, whatever.. Why do you feel the need to do this?

I personally will not pay money to see entertainment of any type when I know the performer uses his/her money and influence to lobby or support issues that I disagree with.

You got a problem with that?

You new around here? ;)

This is OT, dude. The discourse goes a lot lower than this on a daily basis. Do I have a problem with what movies you see? No. I couldn't care less, and neither could anyone else. My only point was that it's a uniquely right-wing deal to care about a performer's personal life or views. It seems weird to the rest of us, but rock on with your bad self. Whatever makes you happy. :)

KaptKaos 03-23-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3845145)
You new around here? ;)

This is OT, dude. The discourse goes a lot lower than this on a daily basis. Do I have a problem with what movies you see? No. I couldn't care less, and neither could anyone else. My only point was that it's a uniquely right-wing deal to care about a performer's personal life or views. It seems weird to the rest of us, but rock on with your bad self. Whatever makes you happy. :)


No worries, I have a thick skin.

Question for you. Do you watch Fox News?

speeder 03-23-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 3845254)
No worries, I have a thick skin.

Question for you. Do you watch Fox News?

I have seen it, but believe it or not I do not watch television. Or I should say, I watch very little. I quit watching TV on any kind of regular basis in the '70s, about when "Happy Days" was on. (Loved that show).

It's not some snobbish thing where I don't watch on principle, I actually regret missing certain shows that are good but most of them I can rent @ Blockbuster on DVD if I want to see them. It's a lot better way to watch them, 1hour of network = about 40 minutes w/o commercial breaks.

On the car radio I have listened to plenty of conservative talk radio, some of those guys are pretty talented and funny, but lets be real, they're entertainers. Larry Elder is a favorite with his "Victocrat" and other trademark phrases. Good stuff, and often hits the target.

Bill O'Reilly I don't have much respect for. He's a weasel, just as disengenius and spineless as most of the socialist douche bags when a fact they don't like comes a slappin' up the road. NPR and the BBC are solid sources of hard news from around the world, IMO, (they report on incidents that the U.S. MSM completely ignores), but the editorial/commentary is way too pinko for me.

Are you surprised? :)

KaptKaos 03-23-2008 04:38 PM

Sort of.

My point on Fox News was that people boycott it all the time. So I really didn't see much difference between that and movies. I assumed (wrongly) you'd fall into that category.

Interesting that you stopped watching TV when Fonzie jumped the shark.

I don't think my position is "uniquely right wing." There are tons of leftist groups that regularly boycott companies. When you think about it, Sean Penn is a corporation with a lot of products. Sean Penn Inc makes movies, lobbies congress and visits tyrants. I vote with my wallet.


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