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Seric 04-02-2008 12:19 PM

"In other words, it's a huge **** sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

About sums up my feelings towards all the candidates. Billary being the worst.

Tobra 04-02-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevepaa (Post 3864593)
Take away the power ceded to the Presidency by Congress, or usurped by various Presidents and we could return to what some believe was original intent and we could do away with the media circus for the "Presidential beauty contest" or maybe we need to switch to a Parliamentary system where the Prime Minister seems to rise by virtue of some managerial skill.

Original intent?

Steve, the dead white guys who set this whole deal up presumed that the best and brightest would come forward and serve, out of love for their country, rather than love of power. At the time, this was not as naive and crazy as it sounds today. The whole system is built on a premise that I don't think is valid, which is that outstanding individuals would be drawn to the government.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of people are pretty much morons, no test to vote.

David 04-02-2008 01:46 PM

I've voted Democrat since I was a little kid voting for Carter in my 2nd grade class (I know PPOT's thoughts on Carter, don't need to hear them again), but if by some great injustice she wins the nomination, I'll probably vote for McCain.

sammyg2 04-02-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 125shifter (Post 3865317)
I've voted Democrat since I was a little kid voting for Carter in my 2nd grade class

Thanks for cancelling out my votes. :p

Porsche-O-Phile 04-02-2008 02:09 PM

I remember someone from the 1980 election explaining it as, "your choices are peanuts, popcorn or some clown with big glasses" (Carter, Reagan or Anderson).

red-beard 04-02-2008 02:16 PM

In class in 1976, I remember one of the kids came up with a political poem:

"My name is Jimmy Carter, I always tell the truth.

If I ever tell a lie, I grow another tooth."

JayG 04-02-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 3864812)
It is like any other occupation. There are for example surely thousands of carpenters in Sweden that would be a much better pediatrician than I am.

Wow, do they learn general pediatrics in high school over there? I can't think of one American carpenter that could crossover like that.'

I voted Huckabee in the primary. He won GA too. Not because he's an evangelical but because he supports the fairtax.

stevepaa 04-02-2008 04:03 PM

Tobra, by original intent I meant that the President was not to have as much power as he has now. Ever since Johnson, the Presidency and Executive Branch have grown in power, while Congress has shirked their responsibility to counteract him. Rather they have followed the party line and voted like lemmings according to the party leaders. The two parties have driven us to this point and I don't see a solution in the near future.

Rearden 04-02-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3865167)
Original intent?

Steve, the dead white guys who set this whole deal up presumed that the best and brightest would come forward and serve, out of love for their country, rather than love of power. At the time, this was not as naive and crazy as it sounds today. The whole system is built on a premise that I don't think is valid, which is that outstanding individuals would be drawn to the government.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of people are pretty much morons, no test to vote.

In this age of 24-hour news channels, blogs, organized political dig-up-dirt teams, etc, one would need to be a masochist to have their lives turned upside down in a run for POTUS. Sure, the founding fathers had some nasty newspapers, but nothing like the crap today that is nearly guaranteed to keep the "outstanding individuals" away.

Rob Channell 04-02-2008 05:09 PM

Let's all just write in Cthulhu. Why should we bother settling for one of those "lesser evils"?


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