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Peeder Is A Right On Guy

Speeder has brought up some good points in his Threads. It truly is time to shine the light on the commies in our midst, the one worlders, neo do-gooders of Rob Reiner, Rosie O'Donnel and Al Frankens ilk.

I have been studying this problem for quiet some time now, and just needed a right thinking individual like Speeder to bring the subject up. These neo fascist communists live right among us and prey upon the poor ignorant minorities in our cities. Only the ignorant can easily be controlled and manipulated in this fashion. These people are kept in perpetual bondage to a political ideology that the government will provide for whatever want you have at the price of giving up your free will, your very soul. You see this is not just a Neo fascist communist conspiracy but one of evil incarnate. It is veritably the devil himself who has come to claim your soul, the one he has bought and paid for. Gone is your right to question wrong doing in a world where evil is pronounced as being good and good pronounced as being evil.

The Muslim race is in fact the hoard of the antichrist, to do his bidding to spread his will throughout the world. They have spread like locust throughout the world infiltrating our Christian society and undermining it will their ungodly anti-christian customs and beliefs. Most Christians have not been following the word of God but have let the humanist mantra of these neo fascist socialists pervade and cloud their minds with humanist and scientific gibberish of the devil. They have let these one worlders and Muslims gain control of the very thought process of Christianity and western thought itself.

Now I don't have to tell you how perilously close to the abyss we have come. All you have to do is look around and you can see it. From the sub-prime mess, housing prices falling like a rock, the Hugh deficits our government is running, a war in Iraq that is claiming so many lives uselessly, our very lifesblood flowing to the Muslim lands in the form of dollars for a fix of gasoline, it all seems so hopelessly out of control. Yet we all tend to just sit in our living rooms apathetically watching this ungodly mess unfold right in front of us on our bigscreen TV. We all just pray that we will be left alone in our one remaining sanctuary our living rooms. Now I can't tell you what the solution to all these problems are. But if you get down on your knees and pray for Gods guidance, I am sure that the righteous hand of God will lead you to become outraged at the outrageous things that have been shoveled down your throats by these neo fascist do-good-er Muslim loving vermin that call themselves Liberals. So outraged that you will be led to stick your heads out your windows and yell I'm mad as he11 and won't take it anymore.

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Been into the single malt tonite, Tabs?

BTW...while on the subject of Muslims, thanks for the info on persians.
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the Hugh deficits our government is running,.
Crap, there you go again Tabs, I think this is about the sixth time you've blamed me for something that I had absolutely no involvement in. On your other points, carry on.
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Been into the single malt tonite, Tabs?

BTW...while on the subject of Muslims, thanks for the info on persians.
Malt or not... a lot of what he says is true... very true. We are at the abyss and its about time to make a difficult decision in life.
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Joe...while maybe not the abyss, we certainly are at a cross roads in my opinion. But when someone uses the term "neo-fascist communists" or "neo fascist socialists" in any context, it strikes me as pseudo intellectuallism. Sounds great but its an oxymoron.

The characterization of Islam as evil incarnate and the implication that Christianity is the only true religion is a bit over the top. While I am agnostic, I truly respect and will defend every persons right to worship (or not) in so far as their religion is not being distorted to promote ideaology that is the antithesis if all spirituality.

Now I can agree with some observations...perpetual bondage may be a bit strong, but I understand where he is going but I don't think its impact is limited to the "poor ignorant minorities." Lemmings in bondage to government institutions and dogma rcome from all socio-economic bagkgrounds...whether its socialized medicine or socialized capitalism. THAT, my friend concerns me deeply. Widespread apathy is another serious concern.

I find Tabs' soliloquoy thought provoking but confusing. At one and the same time he attacks conservative causes yet blames problems in our world on liberals. Huh? Does not compute.

I enjoy Tabs' posts and by no means am calling him a pseudo intellectual. While I don't know about his wealth or taste, I find him to be a deep thinker with interesting insight on a variety of complex issues. Its just sometimes the pieces don't geehaw for me. Maybe that's my problem, not Tabs'.

Or it could be the single malt we both enjoy

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Dueller,

I do not really find Islam the "devil incarnate" but their religion has been taken over by fanatic followers and at this time threatens to lead the world over the edge of the abyss and into hell if not stopped and soon.

Islam hates and wants to eliminate ALL OTHER RELIGIONS, not just Christianity, and intends to absorb all of them into Islam. As such, and as long as they are hijacked by a small number of radical followers I see no other option than to do whatever is necessary to save all of the other religions.

If it means the complete and utter elimination of Islam in the process, then sorry but I feel thats far better than for us to do nothing and watch the complete and utter eliminination of all other religions by being eaten up by Islam.
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Dueller,

I do not really find Islam the "devil incarnate" but their religion has been taken over by fanatic followers and at this time threatens to lead the world over the edge of the abyss and into hell if not stopped and soon.

Islam hates and wants to eliminate ALL OTHER RELIGIONS, not just Christianity, and intends to absorb all of them into Islam. As such, and as long as they are hijacked by a small number of radical followers I see no other option than to do whatever is necessary to save all of the other religions.

If it means the complete and utter elimination of Islam in the process, then sorry but I feel thats far better than for us to do nothing and watch the complete and utter eliminination of all other religions by being eaten up by Islam.
With all due respect, Joe (and I do respect your postings here) that sounds like its right out of "Mein Kamp." From both sides if you accept the premise that mainstream Islam wants to eleminate all other religions. Which I do not.
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With all due respect, Joe (and I do respect your postings here) that sounds like its right out of "Mein Kamp." From both sides if you accept the premise that mainstream Islam wants to eleminate all other religions. Which I do not.
Not all of Islam, but the part of Islam that has been hijacked wants to eliminate all other religions.

Wait until the next terrorist strike. Its coming and I really hope that its not the "big one" so to speak.
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...Wait until the next terrorist strike. Its coming and I really hope that its not the "big one" so to speak.
Of course it will come someday...it's a given imo (hence the lunacy of a "perpetual war on terror/drugs/poverty" etc). What happened to the "we'll fight them in Iraq so we don't have to here" philosophy? IMO, the USA is perfectly capable of taking their "best shot", much like a prize fighter who isn't afraid of being hit, just so long as we don't sink to their level. I fear our current policies more than I fear a terrorist attack, but that's just me. That said, I DO believe that our current policies have virtually guaranteed more terrorist attacks over the long haul, but we'll simply pick ourselves up, dust off, and keep going strong because we are "what we are". As bad as the 9/11 attacks were, imo more damage has been inflicted since (due to our policies), than actually occurred on that historic date, and that's what scares the hell out of me.
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So true, KC.

Never the less, I still advocate a nuke em all and let God sort em out approach. 50 or 60 of the big ones ought to do. After all, it will only enhance our position as self appointed world leader.
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if you accept the premise that mainstream Islam wants to eleminate all other religions. Which I do not.
I thought one of the principles of Islam was that infidels (i.e. non-Islamics) must either be converted or killed. Not true?
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The Quran is ambiguous and contradictory. The verses that were written while Mohamed and his followers were conquerers state that the infidels should be fought and converted or killed. The verses that were written later, after the Muslims gained power in the region, state that infidels can pay tax and live as second class citizens.
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all religions are a danger to freedom
some more then others
but all are a danger

''We are at the abyss and its about time to make a difficult decision in life.''

and the people who got us there are not the liberals
BUT THE GOP lead by the RIGHT WING CHRISTIANS
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WE ARE TEETERING ON THE EDGE OF THE BRINK OF THE FIERY INFERNO AND ARE ABOUT TO BE FATALLY KILT!!
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Mankind has always been on the brink of destruction. Nothing new about it. We have choises to be made today that will make tomorrow better or worse. It's always been thatway, always will be. What Keith said is 100% true and on the money. Terrorists can hurt us, but only we can destroy ourselves.

The eastern world, it is exploding
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that gun you’re totin’
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave
[Take a look around ya boy, it's bound to scare ya boy]

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don’t pass legislation
And marches alone can’t bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’

And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for 4 days in space
But when you return, it’s the same old place
The poundin’ of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace
And… tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
You don’t believe
We’re on the eve
Of destruction
Mm, no no, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
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The Quran is ambiguous and contradictory. The verses that were written while Mohamed and his followers were conquerers state that the infidels should be fought and converted or killed. The verses that were written later, after the Muslims gained power in the region, state that infidels can pay tax and live as second class citizens.
You mean kinda like we are doing now? As in paying taxes in the form of $100+ for a barrel of oil?

Am over here in the "sandbox" right now and some of the locals sure want to treat us as second class citizens...
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Mankind has always been on the brink of destruction.....
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Whoa! Great post! If you wrote that, excellent! If you didn't, you really ought to acknowledge who did.
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[QUOTE=Rearden;3869708]The Quran is ambiguous and contradictory../QUOTE]

Kinda like the Bible, eh?
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The first sentences are mine, of course, but the lyrics come from the old 60s song "The Eve of Destruction" by Barry McGuire. I didn't credit him because I thought everyone would recognize the song. I reread the lyrics again and was struck by how prescient they were.

I was making a secondary point by quoting this song from the 60s. And that is that we are always on the brink of destruction. Every election is the most important one in history. We are on the edge of making decisions that will end the world. But that is no different than it as 20 years ago when Reagan was eye to eye with Gorby, 40 years ago when LBJ was promising the light at the end of the tunnel, 70 years ago when Neville Chamberlain promised peace in our time, or 90 years ago when an entire generation of Europe's finest men died in a day on Flanders Field. This election is the most important one in history, and will remainthat way until the next one is held. Wedo alwys hold the fate of the world in our hands. It's easy to imagine that it's worse today than it was in the past, but it's not. The threats were different, but not lesser. That is not to minimize the problems we face today, just toput them into perspective that we have alwaysfaced great challenges, and have usually made decisions for a better world eventually.
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The first sentences are mine, of course, but the lyrics come from the old 60s song "The Eve of Destruction" by Barry McGuire. I didn't credit him because I thought everyone would recognize the song.

I didn't, but was wondering, if they were not your words, if they were lyrics.

I reread the lyrics again and was struck by how prescient they were.

Indeed.

I was making a secondary point by quoting this song from the 60s. And that is that we are always on the brink of destruction. Every election is the most important one in history. We are on the edge of making decisions that will end the world. But that is no different than it as 20 years ago when Reagan was eye to eye with Gorby, 40 years ago when LBJ was promising the light at the end of the tunnel, 70 years ago when Neville Chamberlain promised peace in our time, or 90 years ago when an entire generation of Europe's finest men died in a day on Flanders Field. This election is the most important one in history, and will remainthat way until the next one is held. Wedo alwys hold the fate of the world in our hands. It's easy to imagine that it's worse today than it was in the past, but it's not. The threats were different, but not lesser. That is not to minimize the problems we face today, just toput them into perspective that we have alwaysfaced great challenges, and have usually made decisions for a better world eventually.

Thanks for the amplification; again, great post.
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