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Porsche-O-Phile 04-17-2008 07:15 PM

WTF is this Safari crap? Save me from endless "update" hell!
 
I'm getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick and tired of having to download (and install, generally requiring a reboot) of this-or-that update, service pack, patch, whatever every time I sit down at my computer. While I'm all for making sure I'm protected from the latest virus or bugaboo or the last in fifty million security vulnerabilities in the Microsoft armor, this is getting ridiculous.

Adobe just wasted another 5-10 minutes of my life downloading and installing this "Safari" thing that I'll probably never use. WTF? Anyone else getting sick of this?

Adobe is a frequent offender. There are others too, but it seems almost a daily thing with them. Have to say it's getting a tad old with Firefox too. . .

gprsh924 04-17-2008 07:26 PM

I can't complain about too many updates. Firefox does it on a restart of itself, so I barely ever notice. The most frustrating one for me is the fact that Apple seems to want me to download a new version of iTunes every 3 weeks.

kstar 04-17-2008 07:35 PM

I like updates.

Just got Safari 3.1.1 today and it's much improved, IMO.

YMMV.

Best,

Kurt

Curt914 04-17-2008 07:41 PM

Good time to ask this then:

I have Windows XP home version on the PC. I turn the PC on in the morning and off every night.

What I notice is that 5 out of 7 times, at turnoff, Windows installs an update.

Thats an awful lot of updates and it causes me to wonder what is going on.

Any one else see this much update activity? Just curious. :rolleyes:

Curt

slodave 04-17-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt914 (Post 3893015)
Good time to ask this then:

I have Windows XP home version on the PC. I turn the PC on in the morning and off every night.

What I notice is that 5 out of 7 times, at turnoff, Windows installs an update.

Thats an awful lot of updates and it causes me to wonder what is going on.

Any one else see this much update activity? Just curious. :rolleyes:

Curt

It's possible. I leave my computers on 24/7 and they update and restart themselves, so I don't really notice. If you don't want to turn the computer off with installing the updates, you can by pass and wait until the next night or so on.

Curt914 04-17-2008 08:35 PM

Hi Slodave


Yeah, I was more concerned with the sheer number of updates.

It just seems like a lot of updates, you know, a new Windows update every day or two on average. Just seems a bit weird and was wondering if this is what others are experiencing.

Curt

Porsche-O-Phile 04-18-2008 03:49 AM

Is there a way to make the system do this when I'm not home or something? It's awfully annoying to either have to sit there while my bandwidth is sucked away on this stuff, or have to reboot, or scroll through pages of EULAs (that nobody ever reads) to find a checkbox I need to click to continue, etc.

I'm seriously thinking about just getting an "off-network" computer with all my applications and data and stuff on, then have an "on network" PC with JUST a web browser. I know it's just a nuisance, but I find it extremely annoying to have to go through this with the regularity I'm forced to. My own computer (and time) is hijacked by this stuff all the time - and I don't see what it gains me in 90% of the cases (virus/spyware updates I can live with & understand).

KFC911 04-18-2008 04:00 AM

I keep my laptop "light & lean" (i.e. no personal data (kept on removable drives), no Windows updates, no virus checkers, no NUTHIN' :)), since it's primarily just a web browser, and I only occasionally run other apps. I don't worry about it getting corrupted (hasn't yet), as I'll just restore it back to original if/when that time comes.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-18-2008 04:11 AM

Using Safari is the problem. I love Camino. FireFox is nice as well, just a little slower.

Joeaksa 04-18-2008 04:39 AM

Gosh... we are complaining about Apple are we?

So their computers do have warts after all! :)

Do not seem to have this issue with my Dell...

onewhippedpuppy 04-18-2008 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3893326)
Gosh... we are complaining about Apple are we?

So their computers do have warts after all! :)

Do not seem to have this issue with my Dell...

Blasphemy! Apples don't have problems Joe.

Nathans_Dad 04-18-2008 05:17 AM

I use Firefox myself and Thunderbird for e-mail. Firefox updates while you are browsing and then just gives you a little pop-up the next time you start it up. Done.

Porsche-O-Phile 04-18-2008 05:41 AM

This is a Windows PC.

Is there a way to set up the thing so it automatically runs all the updates, agrees to all the stupid disclaimers and just gets it over with while I'm at work or something? Sitting here for minutes at a time twiddling my thumbs waiting for the system to download one more useless update I'll never benefit from is pretty much insufferable. I'm ready to seriously yank this PC off the Internet and never have to deal with it again.

stomachmonkey 04-18-2008 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3893326)
Gosh... we are complaining about Apple are we?

So their computers do have warts after all! :)

Do not seem to have this issue with my Dell...

Sorry Joe, Windows rant thread.

I have also stopped using Firefox due to how it handles updates.

Firefox also has this annoying lag, when I open a new window I start typing the url right away. Seems Firefox's buffer is slow to keep up and misses the first 3 characters. Really irritating.

kstar 04-18-2008 06:00 AM

If one can overcome his/her anti-Apple mentality, the latest Safari is a really nice browser and probably the most compatible with the modern 2.0 web. It's not perfect and does have some warts, but it is now my 90% browser, with Firefox seeing less and less usage.

I haven't used the Windows version of Safari, but reports and critiques from PC publications are very positive.

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

masraum 04-18-2008 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3893415)
This is a Windows PC.

Is there a way to set up the thing so it automatically runs all the updates, agrees to all the stupid disclaimers and just gets it over with while I'm at work or something? Sitting here for minutes at a time twiddling my thumbs waiting for the system to download one more useless update I'll never benefit from is pretty much insufferable. I'm ready to seriously yank this PC off the Internet and never have to deal with it again.

Yes, you can set auto-update to download and install and reboot your PC at a certain time. I have mine set to do it at 4am daily since I always leave my PC on.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

Wickd89 04-18-2008 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 3893332)
Blasphemy! Apples don't have problems Joe.

I left Apple back at OS 7.0.1.1.1.1..1.1..1.1.1......(Performa 3115CD or something like that)... (afrer owning 3 Macs in the late 80's-early 90's)

I hear the company is doing OK without me..:D

Porsche-O-Phile 04-18-2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 3893505)
Yes, you can set auto-update to download and install and reboot your PC at a certain time. I have mine set to do it at 4am daily since I always leave my PC on.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

Cool, I'll try that.


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