All Evolutionists, go see the movie "Expelled"

[kstar]

How about a "very imaginative tale"?

Large numbers of Christians view the Bible as non-literal, perhaps the majority.

[trekkor]

Majority does not always mean 'right'.

In fact, the Bible touches on this:

Matthew 7:13-14- "Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it"

KT

[kstar]

Originally Posted by trekkor

Majority does not always mean 'right'.

In fact, the Bible touches on this:




KT

Trek - I meant it in the context of snowed's complaint about people calling the Bible "fairy tales". My point was that a very large number of Christians don't accept the Bible literally so snowed's protestations seemed silly to me.

BTW, if I have, and I sure might have, used the term "fairy tale" I did not mean that term in regards to the Bible being about homosexuality; I meant the more traditional definition of fairy as "make-believe" or non-literal.

As you were.

Best,

[nostatic]

imho there is a difference between a personal epithet and describing the bible as a fictional work.

In addition, people don't choose to be black or gay, but they do choose to be Christian.

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by snowman

Nothing is more offensive than calling the bible a fairy tale. That is a fact and millions, thats millions of people are offended by people calling it a fairy tale, especially by fairy nice people.

The number and types of anti religious people on this site is enough for huge numbers of everyday people to be very offended. They can dish it out but not take it? I assume that if you are to be fair you would also call on those people to quiet down their extremely offensive comments as well.

Just when you think he aint got no more..... there seems no end to the champagne comedy of Snowman.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by RPKESQ

So people who believe in any religious text as factual are factually stupid by definition. But I firmly support your decision to go through life like this, as long as I don't have to follow your path or kowtow to your ignorance.

This is clearly a highly insultory flame, and nothing more.

I am as religious as the average doorknob, but i can fully understand why any religious person would find this sort of mean-spirited drivel HIGHLY offensive.

I am quite sure that RPKESQ would never say this to Snowman's face.

[nostatic]

yeah, I'd frankly be up for tossing both of them out on their ears...

then again, maybe that's just the vicodin talking

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

This is clearly a highly insultory flame, and nothing more.

I am as religious as the average doorknob, but i can fully understand why any religious person would find this sort of mean-spirited drivel HIGHLY offensive.

I am quite sure that RPKESQ would never say this to Snowman's face.

Balls. We cannot deny someones skin colour, and it is wrong to discriminate on that basis.

But that someones CHOOSES to believe in a set of superstitions does not entitle them to anyones respect, and in fact, for some, that someone might CHOOSE- in the face of all reason- to believe in (whatvever flavour of unsupportable superstition) makes me wonder about that person's capacities.

Why are you quite sure RPKESQ would not say such to Snowman's face?. Do you say that the absence of religous belief also brings about a lack of characater? If so you are very badly informed. That said, Snowman by his own words, would have us believe he is a crazy as a cut snake. He may or may not be, but he is the funniest guy on PPOT.

[Nathans_Dad]

Oh yay, RPKESQ joins the fray...our very own little French Fry.

He wastes no time in proving that I made the right decision when I put him on my ignore list...actually he is the only member of that particular fraternity at the moment, although Shaun is pushing hard...

[kstar]

Originally Posted by nostatic

yeah, I'd frankly be up for tossing both of them out on their ears...

then again, maybe that's just the vicodin talking

Like my Grandma used to always tell me when I was growing up, "Listen to the drugs, young man".

[trekkor]

I enjoy posting here.
I enjoy getting a little insight into all of the participants and their experiences.

I do not enjoy the contributions of the mean spirited.


KT

[snowman]

I do not tale the bible literally.

I disagree that homosexuality is not a choice, It is a choice in my view and in the view of millions of others. In fact it is the majority view. Given that and the fact that most all religions view it as a choice, an unacceptable choice, I do not see why my view is considered controversial. My view is in fact the majority view, the NON controversial view.

So why do I get zinged for expressing the majority view of this country, in fact of all of the countries of the world? Why do the misfits get all the breaks? That is not inclusion, it is downright oppression of the facts as they are. It is turning the world upside down. Totally non realistic. Totally biased and un american and the suppression of reasonable free speech.

Multicultural is a lot of bunk. American culture is far superior to all the cultures in the world. To include cultures, such as those in the middle east is outrageous. Express your homo views there and they will, cut your you know what off, or just kill you. There are also many stone age cultures left in the world. WTF can a stone age culture contribute to our culture? Not much.

So what is your point exactly? To suppress opinions? To suppress reasonable free speech (Views held by millions MUST by definition be reasonable). Again why should I endure the crap spewed by many on this thread about religion, religion that Millions of people subscribe to? Their total lack of respect for those reasonable views? I don't mind as long as I can freely express my equal views of them and their practices. Practices that they are not born with. That includes the N category. People are born of a color, they are not born N's, they have to earn that designation. So why is this, something that is again not something one is born with a taboo subject?

I think these are very reasonable questions that deserve reasonable answers.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by snowman

I do not tale the bible literally.

I disagree that homosexuality is not a choice, It is a choice in my view and in the view of millions of others. In fact it is the majority view. Given that and the fact that most all religions view it as a choice, an unacceptable choice, I do not see why my view is considered controversial. My view is in fact the majority view, the NON controversial view.

WTF can a stone age culture contribute to our culture? Not much. You really are an arrogant prick aren't you?

Funny that. How many Catholic priest's and the like from all other religions have been busted 'playing' with young boys? Your all a bunch of hypocrites. Back to the bottle Snowballs...man..whateva

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by trekkor

I've mentioned it many times on this very thread.

Seventh day...



KT

Still waiting for your facts supporting your theory that the 7th day is longer than 24 hours.

[IROC]

Originally Posted by snowman

So what is your point exactly? To suppress opinions? To suppress reasonable free speech (Views held by millions MUST by definition be reasonable).

Using your own logic, radical Islam must meet the definition of reasonable since it is a view held by millions.

Again why should I endure the crap spewed by many on this thread about religion, religion that Millions of people subscribe to?

You don't have to endure anything. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you participate in this thread.

Funny, but you're the only one in this thread bringing up homosexuality. You're the only one who ever brings it up. That seems to be a pattern with you. Are you trying to tell us something?

[IROC]

Kurt - thanks for setting me straight on the Grandmother's Song!! That whole album is brilliant. "Always...no, wait... Never..."

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by IROC

Using your own logic, radical Islam must meet the definition of reasonable since it is a view held by millions.



You don't have to endure anything. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you participate in this thread.

Funny, but you're the only one in this thread bringing up homosexuality. You're the only one who ever brings it up. That seems to be a pattern with you. Are you trying to tell us something?

Its fascinatinating. A debate on evolution, the existence of god, burnnig in hell- Snowman injects race, sexual predilection, political views and attempts ot make connections. Snowman, aside from your bigotry, rascism and fascist politics- Im going to guesss that most of the people laughing er, with you, here at the PPOT are American, white, hetro capitalists.... you shpuld get out more. When did you last leave the USA, Snow?

[sjf911]

Originally Posted by snowman

What a bunch of mindless crap. And I mean that for every single post since my last one.

Science has NO, not a single bit of evidence that can support creation, our creation and subsequent evolution.

You must be living in a cave to believe this.

Religion has, as a FACT, someone who was dead for 3 days and arose from the dead. Witnessed by numerous people, documented, in writing, in the bible. Tis biblical information is far more factual than conjecture of some very biased people.

Really, were you there with a video camera to confirm this. Did you get an official autopsy to confirm death and then confirm that the "resurrected" was in fact the same individual by checking DNA samples, birth marks, dental X-rays, etc..?

So what do we have?

Science 0
Religion +1

He who has the pencil, keeps the score?

And any thinking, individual, especially a scientist, can summarize that there is more evidence that religion is the basis for creation, than science has, or is likely to have.

Unfortunately, the is delusion with a capital D.

Only the fags seem to have a hard on for religion. This is logical since all religions deem them sinners, condemned to hell. Their only hope is that religion is wrong. Consequently their views are irrelevant because they are biased, they cannot give a non biased opinion.

It appears to me that there are quite a few "true believers" among the homosexual community. Why don't you confirm this by doing an official poll. Support your claim with some real evidence.

Bottom line. Unbiased, scientific observation shows evidence of a God. There is no evidence to counter this view. There is not even a theory to counter this view.

Sorry, but this is just ignorant BS. DELUSION.

So we have real scientists for factual investigatgion of our presence here, which must include ID, both religious creation ID and the other science based ID. We have real scientists, who, as a consequence of their work, their dealings with mother nature, their observations of nature, who know that only some intelligent being is responsible for our being here.

DELUSION

We also have a bunch of fags, wishing for forgiveness, or wishing that there is no God, but having no other basis, reject ID and even science based ID. They are scared, very scared, consequently their opinions are worthless.

Why don't you give us the evidence that supports this and all of your other views. Please list references, authors, and appropriate blogs.

[Nathans_Dad]

LOL...blogs as scientific evidence...the bar has been lowered.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

LOL...blogs as scientific evidence...the bar has been lowered.

You've never seen blogs at universities posted by scientists doing serious science?

edit: Here's a sample for you, Oxford's Science Blog: http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/science_blog/index.html