All Evolutionists, go see the movie "Expelled"

[m21sniper]

Shrug.

[dewolf]

And you know what, I don't care what you think. When religions put people in power that abuse that power by molesting children then try to pay the families off, I couldn't give a crap who is offended. All religious people should stand up against these *********s, but do they. They slap them on the wrist and send them to the Congo

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dewolf

And you know what, I don't care what you think.

I would say it's clear you don't care what anyone thinks about you or your opinions.
If you did, you might attempt to use some tact.

Originally Posted by dewolf

When religions put people in power that abuse that power by molesting children then try to pay the families off, I couldn't give a crap who is offended. All religious people should stand up against these *********s, but do they. They slap them on the wrist and send them to the Congo

All power structures put corrupt people in positions of power because power corrupts people almost universally.

Do you hate school teachers too? Some of them are molesters in positions of authority. Do they all share your ill-directed ire like religious people do?

For all you know there is a God. For all they know, there isn't. Neither side can prove each other wrong, so some of you have resorted to throwing stones at each other. It's stupid, hateful, and pointless.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I would say it's clear you don't care what anyone thinks about you or your opinions.
If you did, you might attempt to use some tact.


All power structures put corrupt people in positions of power because power corrupts.

Do you hate school teachers too? Some of them are molesters in positions of authority. Do they all share your ill-directed ire like religious people do?

I'll re-iterate. Don't care what you think so you needn't bother trying to rile me. Get real. If that happened at a school the whole school would revolt. In fact the whole community would. It happens in religious organisations and it pretty much gets swept under the carpet.

[Nathans_Dad]

Originally Posted by dewolf

I'll re-iterate. Don't care what you think so you needn't bother trying to rile me. Get real. If that happened at a school the whole school would revolt. In fact the whole community would. It happens in religious organisations and it pretty much gets swept under the carpet.

Oh really? Perhaps you aren't up to speed on the multiple incidences of teachers having sex with their underage students in this country (maybe you were on walkabout in the bush)...all the teachers got off with a slap on the wrist, and I believe that multiple people on this very forum talked about how they didn't really have an issue with it since the teacher involved was female...

Seems that there is a trend in the radical evolutionists on the thread...actually I've noticed the same trend on all the religion bashing threads. Why is it that the religious folks, in general try to be civil in their discourse while the anti-religious folks immediately start throwing out insults?

[m21sniper]

I'm pretty sure he cares what i think, or he'd have never responded to my posts to begin with. Then again, he does so in such a rude fashion, that maybe he really doesn't. Who knows. (or more appropriately perhaps, who cares?)

Of course his total ignorance wrt teachers molesting students(and im sure it aint just here) does sort of speak volumes wrt his knowledge base, doesn't it?

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Oh really? Perhaps you aren't up to speed on the multiple incidences of teachers having sex with their underage students in this country (maybe you were on walkabout in the bush) Sorry, only indigenous Australians go on walkabouts, I take the 4 x 4.


Why is it that the religious folks, in general try to be civil in their discourse while the anti-religious folks immediately start throwing out insults?

lol, perhaps you should read Snowmans threads. Sniper has been insulting. You folks just think you're better than everyone else. It's that delusion at work. It would appear you guys are defending the church and what goes on with the alter boys. Neither one of you have mentioned it's atrocious. You have just attacked me for what I've said. Sling all the sh$t you want, the truth remains the same.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Of course his total ignorance wrt teachers molesting students(and im sure it aint just here) does sort of speak volumes wrt his knowledge base, doesn't it?

I don't remember this thread having anything to do with teachers.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

does sort of speak volumes wrt his knowledge base, doesn't it?

And this is from someone who was having trouble with 'lizard to bird' concept.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Oh really? Perhaps you aren't up to speed on the multiple incidences of teachers having sex with their underage students in this country

It's happened here to and the teachers lost their jobs and were struck off the education departments register, as they should be. Like I said, this thread isn't about teachers.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

And since when did I use ancient scrolls as scientific evidence?

Try to keep up Shaun.

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Giggling is not the only way you resemble a schoolgirl, Shaun.

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

I really don't care to hear about you boning your dog, either.

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Shaun it has becomes obvious to me that the adage about wrestling with pigs applies to any discussion with you. Thus, since I have become dirty enough already, I am choosing to withdraw from any further discourse with you on this or any other topic.

Have a nice day and remember, God still loves you.

Rick, I think you have the rolls reversed here, just look at your text. You're going to need more than MapQuest to find the high road here.


Do you want me to send that alter boy outfit and cam back? I couldn't get it to work, think it's just for a PC.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Do you want me to send that alter boy outfit and cam back? I couldn't get it to work, think it's just for a PC.

LOL, I know I shouldn't, but that is funny, LOL

[Nathans_Dad]

Originally Posted by dewolf

lol, perhaps you should read Snowmans threads. Sniper has been insulting. You folks just think you're better than everyone else. It's that delusion at work. It would appear you guys are defending the church and what goes on with the alter boys. Neither one of you have mentioned it's atrocious. You have just attacked me for what I've said. Sling all the sh$t you want, the truth remains the same.

In my experience the insults usually start from the athiest/evolutionist end. It is the same in this thread. It took maybe 5 posts for the "ignorant, idiot, believing in FSM" usual crap to start. Go back and take a look.

Second, no one is defending the Catholic churches actions. You pointed it out and then went on to say that if the same thing happened in any other part of society the person would be out on their ear. Well, that simply isn't true, hence the teacher analogy.

And, for the record, I like Australians. I know quite a few. Sniper was pointing out the idiocy of your stereotype against all religious people using Catholics as an example. You seem to have taken offense and someone else stereotyping you. Funny that.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

In my experience the insults usually start from the athiest/evolutionist end. It is the same in this thread. It took maybe 5 posts for the "ignorant, idiot, believing in FSM" usual crap to start. Go back and take a look.

Second, no one is defending the Catholic churches actions. You pointed it out and then went on to say that if the same thing happened in any other part of society the person would be out on their ear. Well, that simply isn't true, hence the teacher analogy.

And, for the record, I like Australians. I know quite a few. Sniper was pointing out the idiocy of your stereotype against all religious people using Catholics as an example. You seem to have taken offense and someone else stereotyping you. Funny that.

Nationality has nothing to do with this. This sort of child abuse by power brokers of ALL religions is worldwide. I took offence to the fact that rather than say, yes, child abuse by religious leaders is abhorrent, he immediately went on the defence and attacked me. Stereotype me all you want, makes no diff to me. I'm thicker skinned than that. After all, I'm a kangaroo humpin' Aussie.

[snowman]

It was a very good movie! I like good movies.

[Nathans_Dad]

So child abuse is worldwide and present in all religions? Really? Have any evidence for that stereotype? Seriously, any articles, blogs, video....anything?

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

So child abuse is worldwide and present in all religions? Really? Have any evidence for that stereotype? Seriously, any articles, blogs, video....anything?

Look it up, surely your smart enough, or are you one those denying it happens. What's with you people?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/06/2209129.htm (Mormon)

http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2007/05/10/jw-sex-abuse-cases-settled-with-gag-order/ (JW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Xjw_sk7tA (JW)

here's 3 in 2 minutes. There are hundreds more

more

http://www.melbourne.anglican.com.au/main.php?pg=news&news_id=11285&s=157 (Anglican)

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm (Protestant)

http://reactor-core.org/islamic-homosexuality.html (Islam)

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2002/10-12/30-37_child_abuse.shtml (Hindu)

http://surrealist.org/gurukula/index.html (Krishna)

http://www.sweenytod.com/rno/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=695 (Buddhist)

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-21/news/pentecostal-preacher-sherman-allen-turns-out-to-be-reverend-spanky/ (Pentecostal)

should I keep going or do you get the picture?

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

And, for the record, I like Australians. I know quite a few. Sniper was pointing out the idiocy of your stereotype against all religious people using Catholics as an example. You seem to have taken offense and someone else stereotyping you. Funny that.

I made the analogy as obvious as i could. I guess it wasn't obvious enough for our Mate from the outback.

LOL.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

I made the analogy as obvious as i could. I guess it wasn't obvious enough for our Mate from the outback.

LOL.

Hey attack me all you want, at the end of the day what I said is right. I've posted several links you can read and there are literally hundreds more. Churches know about it and they sweep it under the carpet. The congregation knows about but prefers the leadership to deal with it the way they see fit, there-by absolving them from any responsibility. Hypocrisy at work.
FYI, I'm actually about 250 miles from anything that could be be called 'outback' by Australian definition, just so you know for next time. Your limited knowledge of geography can be helped with Google earth. Revelation, 'Australia has Cities'.

[Nathans_Dad]

Look wolf, no one is saying that there isn't a problem with some clergy with regards to child abuse. No one is excusing that either. You cannot, however, say that ALL religious clergy are child molesters and that every religious person condones child abuse. Yes, there are instances of child abuse by religious people. There are instances of child abuse by non-religious people too. Australia's child abuse website lists thousands of cases of child abuse each year. Can I then say that all Australian's a child abusers? Of course not.