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The Gaijin 04-22-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by daepp (Post 3901088)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208879373.jpg

I watched several Boy Scouts erect this as part of an Eagle project on Thursday. It was a nice map of the trails on Mt. Rubidoux - he even went to the trouble to use a router to create the trails on the map. By Monday it was defaced.

They are ruining what little niceness there is in this area. Is it a lack of punishment? Is it a lack of parenting? A lack of fear of diving retribution?

The NYPD has a squad that potographs and archives graffiti vandalism. Then they can target the most troublesome and bring their "portfolio" into court when they catch them.

the 04-22-2008 11:14 AM

Atlas Shrugged is unfortunately turning out to be stunningly prophetic.

So many of the things uttered by Clinton and Obama (and even McCain), for instance, are almost right out of the mouths of the protagonists in the book.

And stealing of nuts, bolts, wires, etc. from bridges and other public places, to sell for scrap, is right out of the story, as the nation slides into decline.

andytheturtle 04-22-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 3901088)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208879373.jpg

I watched several Boy Scouts erect this as part of an Eagle project on Thursday. It was a nice map of the trails on Mt. Rubidoux - he even went to the trouble to use a router to create the trails on the map. By Monday it was defaced.

This park/trail/mountain area has been visited by the public for 80 years. Donated to the city by a local humanitarian and the Union Pacific/Huntington. Over the years many brass (bronze?) plaques have been placed to recognize various people/events. Now they are being pried loose for their scrap value. Some of them were works of art.

This one was stolen and has been replaced with a simple stone inscription
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208880550.jpg

Original
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208880783.jpg

This is what's left:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208880705.jpg

They are ruining what little niceness there is in this area. Is it a lack of punishment? Is it a lack of parenting? A lack of fear of diving retribution?

Boy, you live real close to me. I saw that too it is so sad.

jamesnmlaw 04-22-2008 12:30 PM

Boy Scouts with guns
 
Perhaps the Scouts should repair the sign and wait for the little sh:ts to come back to tag. A couple of Scouts with 30-06s up on the hill could try for merit badges in wildlife management. Culling the herd to breed out the bad ones isn't necessarily a bad thing.

teenerted1 04-22-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesnmlaw (Post 3901676)
Perhaps the Scouts should repair the sign and wait for the little sh:ts to come back to tag. A couple of Scouts with 30-06s up on the hill could try for merit badges in wildlife management. Culling the herd to breed out the bad ones isn't necessarily a bad thing.

i think this would fall under the RIFLERY Merit Badge.:rolleyes:

daepp 04-22-2008 01:13 PM

Looks like they struck again last night:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1208898753.jpg

David 04-22-2008 01:16 PM

Some states have fixed the theft problem by making it a felony (for over $500 I believe) and making everyone who brings in stuff for recycling leave a thumb print. But I guess most police organizations are too busy writing tickets and making drug busts to stop theft.

scottmandue 04-22-2008 01:21 PM

Being a city dweller I must say by personal experience this vandalism is really getting out of hand...

Better parenting would help but unfortunately too many parents are either unavailable or stupid self absorbed children themselves (or both).

I honestly don't know what the answer is... oh sure we can beat our chest and talk about vigilante justice but that makes up no better than the vandals.

Ideally it would be more cost effective (and humane) to instill a sense of community, pride, and respect into our young children... but how do you do that?

And the adults are not doing any better, can't tell you how many times I have seen a mother or father toss several bags of fast food trash out the window of the family mini van stuffed with children when there is a garbage can a few feet away. :mad:

Hugh R 04-22-2008 03:33 PM

It's an epidemic. In El Aye, they're stealing bronze statues out of parks and the copper wires in the street light boxes. I have a friend with an auto shop on San Fernando Road in Glendale, CA who has had his window screens stolen several times for the aluminum frames. He eventually gave up replacing them.

Tobra 04-22-2008 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=scottmandue;3901782]
Ideally it would be more cost effective (and humane) to instill a sense of community, pride, and respect into our young children... but how do you do that?
/QUOTE]
see the mandatory military thread, mandatory federal service would serve this purpose quite neatly, IMHO

I confronted two young women tearing down a plastic chain at a closed fruit stand not long ago. They were taking it with them, and I asked what they were doing. One said, oh, my father owns this business and asked me to bring this home. I knew she was lying, because the place belongs to a church. I said, fine, lets go see your father right now. They start getting nervous, and told me to leave them alone. I refused, and suggested we call the police, they ran. I should have put my dog on them.

WolfeMacleod 04-22-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp (Post 3901095)
The city sent a crew up last month install missing nuts from this bridge. They had to tack-weld them on due to theft.

That's nothing.....entire bridges have been stolen....


Railroad bridge stolen in Czech Republic


Police say they're trying to figure out who made off with a 4-ton railroad bridge in the Czech Republic.

The iron span disappeared between Dec. 5 and Jan. 11, according to the Czech News Agency.

"We are not sure if it was taken for personal use or for its scrap value," police spokeswoman Martina Hruskova tells AFP. "It is the first time we have dealt with this type of theft."

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Russian steel bridge stolen for scrap

* Published: 08 January 2008 11:25


A steel 11.5m long road bridge was stolen in Khabarovsk, Russia's Far East, local officials said on Saturday.

The bridge was made of four steel pipes half a metre in diameter and covered with steel plates. It is likely that the thieves stole the bridge to sell it for scrap.

It is reported that the thieves worked at night when there was no-one around, which enabled them to dismantle and remove the heavy construction.

Local workers arrived at the bridge on Saturday morning to discover that the only direct route to a thermal power station had disappeared.

"The total loss sustained to the bridge-owner by the theft is estimated at 400,000 rubles (£8,290). However, repair works will cost the energy company over a million rubles (£20,730)," a spokesman told Russian press.

The spokesperson added that the new bridge will be made of reinforced concrete, instead of steel and repair works will take at least a month.

It is not the first time a bridge has been stolen. A 5-metre span metal bridge disappeared from a river crossing in the Ryazan region, east of Moscow, Russia in August 2007 and a 10 tonne, 115 year old steel railway bridge disappeared from Howard Springs, 35 kilometres south of Darwin, Australia ni November 2004

masraum 04-22-2008 04:20 PM

I've heard of huge bundles of phone line being stolen. Active phone line cut from between 2 poles. It's a real shame that extreme stupidity or lack of respect can't be punished via capital punishment.

Kirk911SC 04-22-2008 04:52 PM

Look what this idiot was up to:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/04/21/bc-car-key-suspect.html?ref=rss

Quote:

A Coquitlam, B.C., man has been charged with two counts of mischief under $5,000 following his arrest Monday morning after as many as 100 vehicles were damaged by scratching them with a key.

Vancouver police said Soo Yo Kim, 31, is the prime suspect in as many as 400 similar incidents in recent months across Metro Vancouver.


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