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Shaun @ Tru6 04-29-2008 03:49 PM
As a bio/biochem major (a long time ago), I appreciate what science has to offer in terms of absolute proof as well as theory.

Here is an interesting resource: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/clottes/

A worthwhile read (need to click on all 8 pages)

Shaun @ Tru6 04-29-2008 03:52 PM
I miss science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

trekkor 04-29-2008 03:53 PM
If it's 40,000 years old there must be some proof.
Show it!

I'm not a jerk. I'm very friendly and mean no harm.
Just a tiny little jab, that's all.
I'm harmless.


KT

trekkor 04-29-2008 03:57 PM
Sure let's do it again.
Are we already in re-runs? :D

Why stop at the age of the earth, the age of the universe is much more fun?

Guesses at best.


KT

dewolf 04-29-2008 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915215)
If it's 40,000 years old there must be some proof.
Show it!

I'm not a jerk. I'm very friendly and mean no harm.
Just a tiny little jab, that's all.
I'm harmless.


KT
No Trek, you said they can't verify it. Put your money where your mouth is. You say a lot Trek and come up with nothing. Prove to an entire nation of people you know more about their history than they do. You can't, can you? Don't beat around the bush Trek, I'll be here for a while so I'll await your answer, and I'll forward your evidence on to the Australian Aboriginal Council.
Still waiting for Jonah

dewolf 04-29-2008 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915223)
Sure let's do it again.
Are we already in re-runs? :D

Why stop at the age of the earth, the age of the universe is much more fun?

Guesses at best.


KT
It's funny to see you get sarcastic when your called out. You always avoid the answers don't you. Get taught that on Sundays? I have a friend who is a JW, Robert Palumbo. Very, very nice man. He never avoids giving answers. He simply says, " I don't know", or " we don't know".

trekkor 04-29-2008 04:04 PM
You have no evidence.
It's no biggie, no one does.

Man was created 6,000 years ago.

What did you want to know about Jonah?


KT

dewolf 04-29-2008 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915240)

Man was created 6,000 years ago.

KT
prove it. lets see it. proof positive. where's your proof. your dating methods are flawed. I'll await your answer again

As for jonah, go back and read

trekkor 04-29-2008 04:14 PM
Quote:
Lets start with how Jonah survived inside a whale shall we.
Very likely, the same way the three Hebrews survived the fiery furnace of Nebuchadnezzer.

I'm not really sure, the Bible doesn't say.



KT

Shaun @ Tru6 04-29-2008 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915240)
You have no evidence.
It's no biggie, no one does.

Man was created 6,000 years ago.

What did you want to know about Jonah?


KT
Trek, please help me here. I can understand your skepticism of basic scientific principles. But I see you say there's "no evidence."

is there evidence you have that man was created 6,000 years ago?

trekkor 04-29-2008 04:35 PM
Review world history.

Why did it just start 6,000 years ago?


KT

Shaun @ Tru6 04-29-2008 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915291)
Review world history.

Why did it just start 6,000 years ago?


KT
I don't understand how you arrived at world history starting 6000 years ago. What are your sources?

dewolf 04-29-2008 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3915308)
I don't understand how you arrived at world history starting 6000 years ago. What are your sources?
The bible is his only source

dentist90 04-29-2008 05:25 PM
I think that the assumption that if something isn't a huge monument or written on stone it didn't exist is flawed. Even as late as 15th century most North American natives didn't have a written language. They had a strong oral tradition ( but you know what can happen to stories with repeated re-telling). The drawings they made were from organic pigments on skins and bark, all of which degrade readily. So, according to the 'documented history' approach, Native North Americans don't exist, or must have sprung up just before 'civilized' man found them?
I don't have scientific proof, but I'm fairly sure our native peoples have been around more than 500 years.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-29-2008 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 3915354)
The bible is his only source
Are you sure? I don't think so.

Trek, please let me know your sources.

Shaun @ Tru6 05-03-2008 04:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3915291)
Review world history.

Why did it just start 6,000 years ago?


KT
Trek, waiting for your sources on man being created 6,000 years ago.

sammyg2 05-03-2008 06:26 AM
The last time we had this argument someone brought up some cave paintings in France and said they were 27,000 years old.
I checked, the scientists who tested the age of the paintings came right out and said that their testing methods were flawed and not deemed credible because of the materials used to paint the pictures, but they "THOUGHT" the age was about 27,000 years old based on what everyone else was saying.
LOL there's your freaking science and hard data for ya.

sammyg2 05-03-2008 06:30 AM
The oldest living thing on this planet is a tree. It is about 5600 years old, based on what the scientists say.
These trees are capable of living for tens of thousands of years, according to the same scientists. So why is the oldest known living thing on this planet only as old as the biblical flood, even though the scientists say these trees can live many times as long as that?

dewolf 05-03-2008 06:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3921752)
The last time we had this argument someone brought up some cave paintings in France and said they were 27,000 years old.
I checked, the scientists who tested the age of the paintings came right out and said that their testing methods were flawed and not deemed credible because of the materials used to paint the pictures, but they "THOUGHT" the age was about 27,000 years old based on what everyone else was saying.
LOL there's your freaking science and hard data for ya.

The oldest living thing on this planet is a tree. It is about 5600 years old, based on what the scientists say.
These trees are capable of living for tens of thousands of years, according to the same scientists. So why is the oldest known living thing on this planet only as old as the biblical flood, even though the scientists say these trees can live many times as long as that?
In paragraph one you mock science, yet in paragraph two you agree with science?. Gee, it wouldn't be because (supposedly) it backs up your fairytale would it? Typical religious hypocrisy.

sammyg2 05-03-2008 07:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 3921760)
In paragraph one you mock science, yet in paragraph two you agree with science?. Gee, it wouldn't be because (supposedly) it backs up your fairytale would it? Typical religious hypocrisy.
No. Wrong. I never agreed with them, I just used their own indecisions and flawed theories to demonstrate ho inaccurate it is and how unsupported the arguments made here are when they are based on what these scientists say.
BTW,you need to chill. Either that or ESAD.


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