Dems looking To Screw the Wealthy some more!!!

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F***ing bastards, and people wonder why some people are moving money & jobs out of tthe country

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By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer Tue May 13, 7:59 PM ET

WASHINGTON - House Democrats are proposing a tax surcharge on millionaires to pay for a big increase in education benefits for veterans of the war in Iraq, lawmakers said Tuesday.

The plan, if accepted by rank-and-file Democrats, would clear the way for a vote Thursday on a long-stalled war funding bill that would pay for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan into next spring.
Conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats blocked a vote last week over Democratic leaders' attempts to add an additional $51.8 billion over the next decade for veterans education to the $183.8 billion war funding tab. They insisted on finding a way to pay for the new benefit without simply adding to the deficit.

"What we're talking about is a one-half percent income tax surcharge on incomes above $1 million," said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., a leader of the Blue Dog group. "So someone who earns $2 million a year would pay $5,000. ... They're not going to miss it."

The $1 million income level would apply to couples. Individuals would pay the surcharge on income exceeding $500,000.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_go_co/congress_iraq_funding

stomachmonkey · 05-14-2008, 07:21 PM

Do you have a problem with supporting our vets?

Knowing you I'm going to say no, you are all for it.

So are you upset because they are not asking you to contribute?

Mule · 05-14-2008, 07:25 PM

Again your foolish youthful idealism is as visible as a skid mark on tighty whiteys.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Do you have a problem with supporting our vets?

Knowing you I'm going to say no, you are all for it.

So are you upset because they are not asking you to contribute?

How does being against another class warfare tax remotely equate not supporting vets? I know there are several versions of this bill in the works, but I don't quite understand the rush to give a free college education to someone who does three (paid) years in the military AND some versions of the bill want to extend it to their kids. You can already get pretty heavily discounted college education by joining the military. I'd much rather see them just raise military pay and let people decide if they need to go to college or not.

stomachmonkey · 05-14-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

How does being against another class warfare tax remotely equate not supporting vets? ...

Bout the same as opposing the war or having the opinion that our pres is an idiot makes one an unpatriotic America hater.

I personally have no problem with a "class warfare tax" as long as it's not my pocket that they are waging war on.

Do you really think that the class being "attacked" would give a rats a55 if the proposed tax were on the middle class?

Spent some time with a couple of our boys a while back. One was in the service for 5 years, spent 3 of them in Iraq, was headed back for his 4th tour, (not voluntary).

He was 23. If he somehow manages to make it back in one piece he deserves whatever the hell he wants.

strupgolf · 05-14-2008, 07:36 PM

This bill sucks from the word GO. I support Vets, but don't open the floodgates. This is just another example of giving everything to everyone and haveing everyone pay for everything.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Spent some time with a couple of our boys a while back. One was in the service for 5 years, spent 3 of them in Iraq, was headed back for his 4th tour, (not voluntary).

He was 23. If he somehow manages to make it back in one piece he deserves whatever the hell he wants.

Well, five years in, three in Iraq over four tours is quite a different criteria than what's in this bill.

Jim Bremner · 05-14-2008, 07:45 PM

best solution in my eyes

Any person who is an actual combat vet should be exempt from tax EVER.
the end.

Hugh R · 05-14-2008, 07:49 PM

Stomach,

The top 40% of tax filers pay over 93% of all income taxes now, that's why you should be outraged. Me personally, I pay more income taxes than the average family of four in America even EARNS. Exactly what should be my "fair share"? Please tell me. Do I use more police, fire, flood control, national defense, etc, etc. than the average American family? I don't think so. If everyone had to pay their "fair share", which I define as taking the populations and dividing it into the total federal/state budget, you'd find that the per capita taxes would be more than the average family actually earns. Then people might go "Whow!" what the heII are we spending all this money on? Maybe then we'd start seeing some fiscal restraint somewhere. Obviously that can't happen, but I think it should be a starting point and we adjust from there.

stomachmonkey · 05-14-2008, 07:50 PM

3 Years in and STARTING tour 4.

If the bill is bad we should oppose it on it's merits or lack thereof, not who pays for it.

Dottore · 05-14-2008, 07:50 PM

Instead of taxing millionaires, couldn't they just tax Republicans? Those that voted for the current administration? That would be fair - don't you think?

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

3 Years in and STARTING tour 4.

If the bill is bad we should oppose it on it's merits or lack thereof, not who pays for it.

Ok, I oppose it on its merits first and who pays for it second.

Close down the Dept. of Education and that savings alone would cover it all and it might even improve test scores in public schools. There should be some law that says the gov't. cannot raise taxes a dime until they've elminated wasteful federal bureaucracies first. But then, if the queen had balls, she'd be king.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by Dottore

Instead of taxing millionaires, couldn't they just tax Republicans? Those that voted for the current administration? That would be fair - don't you think?

Yeah, I should have just voted for Gore or Kerry and guaranteed myself higher taxes sooner rather than later.

nota · 05-14-2008, 09:48 PM

TAX THE RICH
THEY DO HAVE THE CASH

and it is not you money
every bit has UNITED STATES of AMERICA on it
none has property of [your name] on it

kind of funny and sad
how the I support my country right or wrong crowd
DOES NOT WANT TO PAY THE BILLS AS THEY COME DUE
BALANCE THE DAMM BUDGET
AND PAY DOWN THE NATION DEBTS
then and only then cut the taxes

Az911 · 05-14-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Do you have a problem with supporting our vets?

Knowing you I'm going to say no, you are all for it.

So are you upset because they are not asking you to contribute?

No one is against Vets. People are upset that the top 1% income earners are being forced to pay for even more social programs. This is just one more way for punishing the successful.

Joeaksa · 05-14-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dottore

Instead of taxing millionaires, couldn't they just tax Republicans? Those that voted for the current administration? That would be fair - don't you think?

Ahhh, how about lets doing it fairly, not like the idiotic post above.

How about a 10% straight tax, everyone pays this amount of tax no matter how much money they make? We would be awash in money, every program on the docket would be funded and life would be good.