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Superman 05-30-2008 07:54 AM

Guard Shack Guy
 
Our guard shack is manned by a guy who likes to talk, and who faithfully, regularly, daily.....listens to right-wing hate-radio. I've nodded and smiled though all his rants as I show my security badge. Until yesterday morning.

He was going off about how the majority of people in Miami used to speak English, and now the majority of them don't speak English. He ended by asking the question "Where does that come from?" I couldn't resist.

I asked him if he was aware of the history of this country. I asked him if the term "Ellis Island" rang a bell. I asked him what solution he proposed. His answer to that one was pretty funny. He said he's a big fan of "personal responsibility." I pointed out that the "personal responsibility" approach to mandating English fluency is the approach we are using now.

I thought "okay," as long as he seems to be into whining and griping and criticizing America like all staunch conservatives seem to be doing, I thought I'd offer him one of my pet peeves. I told him that was I really hate is these talk-show radio guys who make their living getting people pissed off at America by pointing out all that's wrong (using partial information and assumptions and innuendo). I told him I think it is beyond unpatriotic to do this. I told him I consider it treasonous to regularly, daily, bash government agencies (their favorite target by FAR) using partial information (leaving out the parts that tell "the rest of the story"). At this point, he was stammering quite a bit.

I don't really want to paint any undue stereotypes here but quite frankly, his ***** this morning was classic conservative hatred. It is just another instance where conservatives want to regulate PEOPLE, and deregulate INDUSTRY. They want to require everyone to behave in a way that pleases them. English-speaking pleases them. They don't want change. They want things to be like they were fifty years ago or more. And they don't consider the problem of implementation. They only want to see how their nation is failing. How America is going to Hell in a handbasket. Because we have spanish-speaking communities in America. ****! The proportion of non-English speaking Americans today is probably not as high as it was at the start of the eighteenth century.

With so many people becoming famous and popular by spewing hate talk on the radio and supporting that hatred with misinformation, I wonder if anyone is surprised by the observation that voters are making ignorant decisions at the polls. Patriots? Nope. Traitors? Yes, I think so.

URY914 05-30-2008 07:57 AM

Hope, change, hope, change, hope, change, hope, change, hope...

Rikao4 05-30-2008 08:00 AM

Learn Spanish, get promoted to top shack.
Rika

Rick Lee 05-30-2008 08:01 AM

Who are these right-wing-hate radio hosts? I'm curious where I can listen in. I've heard so much about them, but never come across anyone spewing hate, other than Michael Savage, who's pretty far down the pecking order.

Rick Lee 05-30-2008 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 3973333)
Learn Spanish, get promoted to top shack.
Rika

It never hurts to learn a foreign language, but I'd say upward mobility does not lie in learning Spanish. Mandarin maybe, but not Spanish.

URY914 05-30-2008 08:03 AM

The guard at my building only speaks Spanglish.

Super_Dave_D 05-30-2008 08:06 AM

You would be pissed at the world too if you had to sit in a guard shack all day.

"badge please - go ahead"
"badge please - go ahead"
"what are you stealing and do you have one for me - thank you and go ahead"

Rikao4 05-30-2008 08:08 AM

most of those early undoc. workers assimilated.. english, and the rest blah,blah
new undoc. worker....brings his ways,keeps them,expects me to adapt to his way..
FT,
Rika

JTO 05-30-2008 08:11 AM

You know what's funny Sup? The way you describe conservatives as wanting to regulate people is the same way conservatives describe liberals. Its all perspective and life experiences I suppose.

Troy

KFC911 05-30-2008 08:13 AM

[QUOTE=Superman;3973322]He was going off about how the majority of people in Miami used to speak English, and now the majority of them don't speak English. He ended by asking the question "Where does that come from?"...

"No se, no hablo ingles" is probably what I would have replied :)

kach22i 05-30-2008 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Superman (Post 3973322)
classic conservative hatred. It is just another instance where conservatives want to regulate PEOPLE, and deregulate INDUSTRY.

They tell people what to think, which is a comfort to an empty and lonely mind.

Dantilla 05-30-2008 08:24 AM

Hey, Supe-

Ever listen to Air America?

nostatic 05-30-2008 08:26 AM

i just hate everyone. It is more efficient.

MRM 05-30-2008 08:29 AM

You've been talking to Tabs again, haven't you?

onewhippedpuppy 05-30-2008 08:49 AM

What's really funny, you could easily replace "conservative" with "liberal" in that post, and Supe would be all over it. That's not hypocritical or anything. But he's "right", so it's ok.:rolleyes: How about we just conclude that you're both idiots too blinded by your beliefs to see the reality that's in front of you, and move on.

Jeff Higgins 05-30-2008 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 3973322)
Nuestra choza de guardia es tripulada por un chico que le gusta hablar, y que fielmente, con regularidad, cada día ..... escucha a la extrema derecha de odio radio. He asintió y sonrió a pesar de todos sus rantes como muestro mi credencial de seguridad. Hasta ayer por la mañana.

Él iba acerca de cómo fuera la mayoría de la gente en Miami utiliza para hablar Inglés, y ahora la mayoría de ellos no hablan Inglés. Terminó pidiendo a la pregunta "¿De dónde procede que viene?" No pude resistirme.

Le pregunté si era consciente de la historia de este país. Le pregunté si el término "Ellis Island" sonó una campana. Le pregunté qué solución propone. Su respuesta a que uno era bastante divertido. Dijo que es un gran fan de "responsabilidad personal". He señalado que la "responsabilidad personal" a que obliga la fluidez Inglés es el enfoque que estamos utilizando ahora.

Yo pensé: "bien," mientras que parece estar en lloriqueo y griping y criticar a América al igual que todos los firmes conservadores parecen estar haciendo, yo pensé que le gustaría ofrecer uno de mi mascota peeves. Le dije que era yo realmente odio es hablar de estas emisoras de radio muestran que los chicos ganan la vida que las personas pissed off en América señalando todo lo que está mal (el uso parcial de información y las hipótesis e insinuaciones). Le dije, creo que está más allá de antipatriótico a hacer esto. Le dije que consideramos que es traidor a regular, a diario, bash los organismos gubernamentales (su objetivo favorito de FAR), utilizando información parcial (dejando de lado las partes que dicen "el resto de la historia"). En este punto, fue stammering un poco.

No me quieren pintar cualquier indebida estereotipos aquí, pero con toda franqueza, su ***** esta mañana fue conservador clásico odio. Es sólo otro caso en que los conservadores quieren regular GENTE, y desregular la industria. Quieren exigir a toda persona a comportarse de una manera que le plazca. Inglés-haciendo uso de la palabra les agrada. Ellos no quieren cambiar. Ellos quieren las cosas a ser como eran hace cincuenta años o más. Y no consideran el problema de la aplicación. Ellos sólo quieren ver cómo su nación está fallando. ¿Cómo América va al Infierno en una handbasket. Porque tenemos comunidades de habla hispana en los Estados Unidos. ****! La proporción de no hablar Inglés americanos de hoy probablemente no sea tan alto como lo fue en el comienzo del siglo XVIII.

Con tanta gente cada vez famoso y popular de spewing odio hablar en la radio y el apoyo que el odio con la desinformación, me pregunto si alguien es sorprendido por la observación de que los votantes están haciendo ignorante decisiones en las urnas. Patriotas? No. Traidores? Sí, creo que sí.

There, that's better.

dtw 05-30-2008 08:58 AM

Cut him a break Soup. Clearly he's just bitter and only has religion, guns, and right-wing hate-radio to hold onto.

Edit - Jeff, LMFAO. It is true tho, I spent a few days in Miami last year and I don't think I spoke a word of English while I was down there. Lucky I'm fluent in Spanish...

9dreizig 05-30-2008 09:10 AM

Funny you should bring up Ellis Island when the subject is learning and speaking english.. As I recall everyone of the early emigrants to this country learned english and assimilated into it.. Oh and btw, they were LEGAL!!!!
So what's the issue?? As long as they are legal, speak english, and contribute to society I'm good with it..
Trying to figure out where the hate is???

bivenator 05-30-2008 09:18 AM

I think soup"s anger comes not from the attacks on the english speaking but from the hate spewed at inefficient govt agencies. soup works for the gov. and is getting tweeked at the talkers pointing out the problems within the govt ability to govern. IMHO
enjoy your weekend

onewhippedpuppy 05-30-2008 09:27 AM

The government has problems? What?!


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