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VaSteve 05-30-2008 09:47 AM

The Steak Heirarchy?
 
The rib eye steak thread mad me think. What is the heirarchy of steak? From best to worst? And why?

Moses 05-30-2008 10:04 AM

Personal preference, I guess. Cattlemen will tell you a sirloin has the best flavor. Me? I'll take a bone-in rib eye every time.

Filets are for girls. Period.

Palum6o 05-30-2008 10:04 AM

Best - I think the best of both worlds is the porterhouse. I also like having the bone in there.
Worst - chuck... because I don't really know how to cook it.

onewhippedpuppy 05-30-2008 10:04 AM

What's with all the food threads today? You damn people are making me hungry again!

Palum6o 05-30-2008 10:04 AM

Best - I think the best of both worlds is the porterhouse. I also like having the bone in there.
Worst - chuck... because I don't really know how to cook it.

pwd72s 05-30-2008 10:13 AM

NY or Ribeye for me...in no particular order.

Nathans_Dad 05-30-2008 10:19 AM

My wife ordered a filet on our honeymoon in Aruba. They brought out a filet that was about 4 inches wide by 6 inches long...that was NOT a girl's steak!!

vash 05-30-2008 10:26 AM

porterhouse is just the bigger end of the t-bone right? i like the bone, but it is essentially two steaks. rib eye and NY strip. both cook differently, so i leave it alone.

i think filet is tender and lean.. sometimes has that liver-y flavor.

my go to steak is the NY. there is no steak pecking order.

Joeaksa 05-30-2008 10:27 AM

Rib-eye or porterhouse when here in the states but overseas you are kinda stuck with a fillet or the like.

Remember that many countries now do not allow any meat to be sold on the bone. Mad Cow disease ya know...

onewhippedpuppy 05-30-2008 10:29 AM

Make fun of fillet all you want, but damn it tastes good.

id10t 05-30-2008 10:31 AM

Don't eat steak out a lot (when I do it is usally prime rib - is that even a steak?) but when at the grocery store, I just look for a hunk of meat that screams "Grill me baby!" don't particularly care what the cut is...

Seric 05-30-2008 10:33 AM

Kobe beef > All


The rest...

Filet is tops, period. Call it a "girl" steak, I will make you a filet that will make your tastebuds go on strike if they don't eat it all the time.

Strip, my second choice.

Ribeyes are damn good, but you have to get a good one that isn't to fatty.

Prime rib is always a treat, again more meat than fat please.

Flank, oh HELL yea.

Porterhouse? My stomach isn't that big.

vash 05-30-2008 10:36 AM

more important than anything is to have a good butcher. safeway meat in a styrofoam try isnt getting it done.

Seric 05-30-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 3973685)
more important than anything is to have a good butcher. safeway meat in a styrofoam try isnt getting it done.

+1

Luckily there is a good butcher close to my work. That place is nirvana.

kstar 05-30-2008 10:39 AM

Today I learn I am a girl! :D

I have some explaining to do . . .

vash 05-30-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstarnes (Post 3973695)
Today I learn I am a girl! :D

I have some explaining to do . . .

what cha wearing?

kstar 05-30-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 3973699)
what cha wearing?

Hey, give me some time to get comfortable with my new "parts".

Seric 05-30-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 3973699)
what cha wearing?


Meat helmet?

vash 05-30-2008 10:50 AM

hahaha. i think i will go vegetarian today....mmmm tofu.

t951 05-30-2008 11:10 AM

It greatly depends on how you cook it. According to some of the experts (the meat guy at Burn's steak house.....(Odd, name for a steak house, but i digress). The order is:

Filet
Porterhouse (b/c it contains a filet and strip)
T-bone (same as a porterhouse, but less filet more strip).

Ribeyes are considered flavorful (b/c of the high fat content). Personally, I dont care for these, as there is too much fat.

Prime rib....basically fat with meat.

The tougher cuts of meat can be made good with expertise.

It all depends what you want.

I have had pretty much one of each at all of the best US steakhouses (Burns, Mortons, Manny's, Ruth Chris', Charlies, Capital Grill, and Bones) and I think the porterhouse is king. (Oh, as a Sales Engineer we usually take clients out to these fancy places when we close a deal....so, I haven't had to pay for most of those!!)

Also, as good as those are, I think I have rivaled some of those grilling at home on my Big Green Egg.

t.

trekkor 05-30-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3973603)
Personal preference, I guess. Cattlemen will tell you a sirloin has the best flavor. Me? I'll take a bone-in rib eye every time.

Filets are for girls. Period.


Bravo!

The pictures of my dinner that I will post tonight will straighten this whole thing out once and for all!:D


KT

Seric 05-30-2008 11:17 AM

Sirloin is good for one thing, combining with Chuck to make hamburgers or meatloaf.

Rot 911 05-30-2008 11:20 AM

I used to like Rib Eye, but too much fat for me.

KC Strip is good.

My favorite right now is flat iron. Not all markets carry it, but damn it tastes good off the grill.

Moses 05-30-2008 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 3973636)
They brought out a filet that was about 4 inches wide by 6 inches long...that was NOT a girl's steak!!

They make XXL tutus as well. It's still a girlie dress.

kstar 05-30-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3973892)
They make XXL tutus as well. It's still a girlie dress.

I must say after spending some time with my new "junk" this girl thing ain't so bad. :D

carreraken 05-30-2008 12:01 PM

Filet for me.

Personally, I don't get the attraction for Prime Rib - always seemed kind of tough to me..

on2wheels52 05-30-2008 12:14 PM

I can ask for no better meat than either a t-bone or rib eye at the local meat shop.
Jim

126coupe 05-30-2008 12:20 PM

1. Kobe/Waygu
2. Dry aged prime
NY Strip
Rib-eye
Porterhouse
T-Bone
Sirloin
Filet


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The Gaijin 05-30-2008 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3973655)

Remember that many countries now do not allow any meat to be sold on the bone. Mad Cow disease ya know...

Joe good Sir - please. This is the not thread to start beating up on the Limeys and other assorted Euro twits.. The mad cow is a direct result of over intensive farming that would make the "more equal" resident's of Orwell's Animal Farm give pause...

I am a few blocks from Lugars in Brooklyn - if anyone is on town I will sure to join you (and pay my own way) for th best porterhouse in the western hemiphere. The beef may be better in Argentina, and they talk about the Wagu of Japan, but they make the best steak most folks have ever had..

I love it all. Braised, slow smoked and BBQ'ed, aged, grilled..it is all good....:cool:

The Gaijin 05-30-2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 3973685)
more important than anything is to have a good butcher. safeway meat in a styrofoam try isnt getting it done.

I cry for how few of these guys are left. But I have Mario.

You youngins' should cry for how few the apprentices that have...


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MikeSid 05-30-2008 01:44 PM

+3 on the butcher.

I live about 4 blocks from what used to be one of the best butcher shops in the city. They've since gone downhill and it's a typical story. They used to have a dry age room and the prime that came out of there was fantastic. Now they've eliminated the dry age room and subleased out the space to an overpriced wine merchant.

So now you can get an overpriced Cab to go with your formerly great steak. One stop shopping and the "what's on your list today" mentality has ruined some great small food outlets. Artisan bakeries have made a comeback, so maybe it's only time before meat markets do.

TimT 05-30-2008 01:55 PM

Hanger Steak
Flatiron Steak

any cut of Wagyu

126coupe 05-30-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 3974185)
+3 on the butcher.

I live about 4 blocks from what used to be one of the best butcher shops in the city. They've since gone downhill and it's a typical story. They used to have a dry age room and the prime that came out of there was fantastic. Now they've eliminated the dry age room and subleased out the space to an overpriced wine merchant.

So now you can get an overpriced Cab to go with your formerly great steak. One stop shopping and the "what's on your list today" mentality has ruined some great small food outlets. Artisan bakeries have made a comeback, so maybe it's only time before meat markets do.

I agree I would pay a premium price to go to the local butcher and get some dry aged prime.

RWebb 05-30-2008 03:40 PM

Yeh - I don't know exactly what a Hanger Steak really is (re cuts) but the best one I ever had was a Hanger Steak...

And Paul - thanks again for that great steak with Lubemaster.

pwd72s 05-30-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3973655)
Rib-eye or porterhouse when here in the states but overseas you are kinda stuck with a fillet or the like.

Remember that many countries now do not allow any meat to be sold on the bone. Mad Cow disease ya know...

Fock! The "beefsteak" had in Greece? Damned if it didn't taste like goat to me!
(I'm allergic to fish..NOT a good thing to be if one wants to travel.)

legion 05-30-2008 05:56 PM

We have three stand-alone butchers in town. Two are just franchises that sell their own brand of pre-packaged meat. The third I have not been to, but that is where my neighbors take their deer for processing.

Sadly, of the places I've tried Sam's Club has the best meat in town.

TimT 05-30-2008 06:03 PM

Hanger Steak=Butchers Steak

Its not cut from a prime..

muy delicioso


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanger_steak

You guys can keep your Porterhouses, Filets, etc. I'll take the Hangers.

pwd72s 05-30-2008 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 3974395)
Yeh - I don't know exactly what a Hanger Steak really is (re cuts) but the best one I ever had was a Hanger Steak...

And Paul - thanks again for that great steak with Lubemaster.

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Randy? IIRC? That was ribeye...Glad you enjoyed it...:D

sketchers356 05-30-2008 06:37 PM

+1 on votes for the under appreciated flank and skirt.

Worst is easily Round. Bland as a blanket.

Dottore 05-30-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 3974203)

Hanger Steak
Flatiron Steak
any cut of Wagyu

You, good sir, know your meat.

That's the meat that can't be beat.


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