Mosley stay or go, taking bets?

rusnak · 06-02-2008, 10:02 PM

I'm thinking he'll stay. One more reason to hate F1 but still keep watching.

Rearden · 06-02-2008, 10:14 PM

That would be a good bet. The FIA probably doesn't have enough backbone to make a decision to change anything.

Jim Richards · 06-03-2008, 02:39 AM

I wish he'd go, but I'm not counting on it.

MFAFF · 06-03-2008, 04:37 AM

He stays.. like a nasty stain...
just cannot get rid of him..

Mind you the ADAC and AAA are not happy...

cairns · 06-03-2008, 04:53 AM

Tough Call. If he stays it isn't going to make it any easier to get sponsors. And I think money rules the roost. If he goes and Todt takes his place that will confirm the Ferrari bias we've seen grow for the last ten years.

We all know the organization is nothing more than a bunch of pompous old egotistic assh*les who will essentially do what they want. First for themselves and last for drivers, teams* and fans. It will be nice when the whole regime changes.

*with exception of Ferrari, they come second.

I'll still watch. But I'm through attending. Too much money too little value.

MFAFF · 06-03-2008, 05:04 AM

With a bit of luck this will be the end of the FIA....remember it depends on the members being involved.. and if the ADAC and AAA leave then that leaves all racing in Germany and the US devoid of a national CLub.. whilst in many repescts that a 'so what' it enables grass roots racing to thrive fee of FIA interference... afterall is the ADAC able to itsa own races, of course, others will no doubt follow the lead.. should that be given.

The only reason the FIA has any 'poer' is because there is a clear structure to national/ international racing.. if that goes, as it would with a return to national based series then it withers...and to be honest I'm sure that a number of European Nations would be able to set pu a parallel structure, free of the current staining.....

To say nothing of sense of humour failures by large German manufacturers....who may make the case that racing is no longer really a politically attractive sales trick...oh dear F1 with the withdrawal of Mercedes and BMW, endurance racing sans Audi etc..and Porsche.. with rather well know associations would also take a racing holiday...to say nothing of Ford and Subaru leaving WRC...

Could be interesting.. but then again do any of these have the balls to do it or is vested self interest all consuming..

jyl · jyl's Garage

I've been watching MotoGP lately. Nice complement to F1. Lots of passing, Rossi storming ahead, and no Mosley.

Joeaksa · 06-03-2008, 06:05 AM

Really hope he goes... but they just voted to keep the asshat!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/7433392.stm

Joeaksa · 06-03-2008, 06:08 AM

"We strongly believe that the only respectable way forward for the FIA, and for yourself, is to have an orderly transition, with an immediate agreement and your commitment to step down," the letter states.

"Every additional day that this situation persists, the damage increases. There is no way back."

The letter was signed by representatives from America (AAA and AATA), Singapore (AAS), Germany (ADAC), Finland, (AL), Canada (CAA), Brazil (CCB), Denmark (FDM), France (FFA), India (FIAA), Japan (JAF), the Netherlands (KNAC), Sweden (M), Hungary (MAK), Israel (MEMSI), Austria (OEMTC), Spain (RACC and RACE), Belgium (TCB) and Switzerland (TCS).

Mosley has, meanwhile, refused a compromise deal allowing him to stand down in November, proposed by a senior body of the FIA - the World Council for Automobile Mobility and Tourism - which would guarantee him victory in next week's vote.

That has further enraged the clubs, who have accused Mosley of putting his own interests ahead of the FIA, adding they "deeply regret" his refusal to accept the compromise.

But a defiant Mosley has described the suggestion as "the worst possible solution".

He added: "I would have resigned, yet still spent the summer carrying out all the day-to-day work with neither the time nor the authority to complete the major outstanding tasks.

cairns · 06-03-2008, 06:53 AM

Yep he stays. Two thirds of the vote says just what kind of organization it is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/03/ummosley203.xml

Palum6o · Palum6o's Garage

What is a "Nazi style orgy"??

Seric · 06-03-2008, 10:27 AM

He stays, this is BS.

cairns · 06-03-2008, 01:09 PM

Well at least we know now that FIA means "Filmed In the Act".

rusnak · 06-03-2008, 10:41 PM

End of FIA.....? F1 to split from FIA?

Here in the US, Don Panoz filled a niche in the racing fan market, started the ALMS, and it took off. I don't know what role the FIA played in terms of anything more meaningful than tacit approval. Why do we need the FIA anyway?

MFAFF · 06-04-2008, 12:07 AM

F1 as we know it will not split from the FIA...too much vested interest.

But many national series 'benefit' from FIA Sanction even tho the FIA has nothing to do with them in reality.

These national series from the backbone of the racing programme for people like MBZ and BMW...as they sponsor a large number of national teams in Touring Car Championships....F1 is but one aspect.

If they have the balls to do so they will look very closely at the percieved benefits of participating in an open wheel series which is governed by an organisation whose President enjoys SM sex orgies with alledged 'Nazi' overtones...

They may deceide that in fact they perfer their investment to be elsewhere... or that in order to get a return on past investment they set up an parallel series, with alternative organisers and partcipants, not quite so publically unsavoury.

I would also imagine that the Japanese teams are unimpressed with this behaviouf regardless of any overtones...and may be amenable to an alternative.

Ferrari on the other hand are the likely beneficiaries of any changes... either in the FIA or in the racing itself...