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Dottore 06-22-2008 09:17 AM

Carla Bruni
 
See the link for a very nice Maureen Dowd piece in today's NYT about the new, hot, French first lady, and why the French are so superior to you frumpy, stuffy, moralizing Yanks in every way. ;)

I mean Carla Bruni or Laura Bush?

I rest my case.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/opinion/22dowd.html?ex=1371787200&en=bd25257d2a0d1465&ei=5 124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

dipso 06-22-2008 09:33 AM

I would have to pick Carla.
Laura is a little embarrassing, loaded all the time and not too bright.

fintstone 06-22-2008 10:07 AM

Laura Bush is a great first lady. In the US, women like Carla Bruni date married NY Governors or married Liberal presidents...

dipso 06-22-2008 10:30 AM

Dottore,
You could be in for a run for your money here. This in todays LA times, just read it over breakfast.
Looks like we are going to have the new Jackie O.




What do U.S. women feel about a potential first lady who wears an inexpensive, off-the-rack dress to co-host "The View?"

Pretty darn enthusiastic.

After Michelle Obama mentioned on "The View" on Wednesday that she bought her B&W sundress at a store called White House/Black Market, women started pouring into the retail chain's stores, clamoring for the $148 dress designed by Donna Ricco.

"Women literally were snatching (that dress) up," Jessica Wells, a spokeswoman for the White House/Black Market, which has 322 stores across the country, told the Wall Street Journal.

Turns out it may not only be time for a political change, it may also be time for a change of clothes when it comes to first ladies.

"I'd put her in an Oprah sphere in terms of influence," Tom Julian, prez of the Tom Julian Group, a New York City-based brand consultancy, told the WSJ.

Later, speaking to the Dish Rag, Julian predicted that Obama will change the face of political fashion in that she could be the first first lady to wear both high and low-end fashion.

"She will bring affordable American sportswear to the forefront, and this is very appealing to the Middle American woman voter. I can also see her as a Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry, Angela Bassett-style dresser. She's modern –- a boomer, a woman of color with a real shape. It will be interesting what she picks as a signature piece, and I predict that it will be in the sportswear realm."

He also says he would not be surprised to see her embrace some black designers such as Kevan Hall and Tracy Reese, to tell a modern American fashion story during the upcoming election.

Speaking solely for myself, how incredibly refreshing to see an intelligent, articulate woman who shops for herself, doesn't use a stylist and doesn't think a designer name means she's better dressed than someone else. Michelle just likes to look pretty and comfortable. How novel.

I far prefer this woman's fashion sense to that other one, you know, the waifish blond beer heiress who goes with Secret Service agents to Oscar de la Renta's swanky Manhattan showroom to check out his designer wares.

dipso 06-22-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 4017237)
Laura Bush is a great first lady. In the US, women like Carla Bruni date married NY Governors or married Liberal presidents...

Laura Bush is a stepford wife and Cindy McCain has her own prescription med "history".

fintstone 06-22-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipso (Post 4017281)
Laura Bush is a stepford wife and Cindy McCain has her own prescription med "history".

No they are ladies...not trailer trash like Bruni...and unlike you or Obama...have always been proud of their country.

RANDY P 06-22-2008 10:52 AM

Yep, who needs to respect a woman who actually has contributed to her country when we can have a hot slut who was tagged by Mick Jagger?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bush

Dottore, you actually like your women slightly (or in this case massively) used but trust me on this, it's not always a good thing to hear about it. $hit if I found out my GF was touched by Mick I'd get myself checked for AIDS 1st, then dump the skank.

Oh and the French were trying out some new rockets up in CA the other day and I happened to have my trusty camcorder. CHeck it out- French technology at it's finest:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9aghWnnThZQ&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9aghWnnThZQ&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 4017237)
Laura Bush is a great first lady. In the US, women like Carla Bruni date married NY Governors or married Liberal presidents...


Joeaksa 06-22-2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipso (Post 4017281)
Laura Bush is a stepford wife and Cindy McCain has her own prescription med "history".

And you and the planet Mars are best friends.

Correct about Cindy but you are FOS about Laura, but then thats normal for you it seems and anything other than tree hugging liberals.

RANDY P 06-22-2008 11:05 AM

" A moral compass needle needs a butt end. Wherever direction France is pointing — toward collaboration with Nazis, accommodation with communists, existentialism, Jerry Lewis, or a UN resolution veto — we can go the other way with a quiet conscience."

P.J O'Rourke

dipso 06-22-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 4017288)
No they ladies...not trailer trash like Bruni...and unlike you or Obama...have always been proud of their country.

As seen through medicated glasses.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/bomb.gif

DARISC 06-22-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 4017299)
Oh and the French were trying out some new rockets up in CA the other day and I happened to have my trusty camcorder. CHeck it out- French technology at it's finest:

Frence is in a contnant called Urope.

Canadia is in a contnant called America (we shair it with them).

Lottsa people from Frence (French people}long ago now live in Canadia an dont like to speak English or Canadian cause their prowd to be French background (!:eek:). They ar known as French-Canadians (but they are really jus Canadians).

Canadia has lottsa English-Canadians to, even some Jewish and German an, oh yeah, even some Italian-Canadians (some are pretty smart - loyers, even!).

I never heared about no French-Canadian Infantry.

Did you get yer deegree on YouTube?

Gogar 06-22-2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 4017299)
Oh and the French were trying out some new rockets up in CA the other day and I happened to have my trusty camcorder. CHeck it out- French technology at it's finest:

I'm think that video is fake, Randy. But it's funny as hell, though!

dipso 06-22-2008 11:24 AM

Somebody is off their meds.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSXIUIF52rY&feature=related

svandamme 06-22-2008 11:36 AM

us technology

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/C_6BhQpjoj0&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/C_6BhQpjoj0&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-UXl9PcPvKc&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-UXl9PcPvKc&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KJtW3N4K16Y&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KJtW3N4K16Y&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Dottore 06-22-2008 11:50 AM

Back to Carla:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214164172.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214164190.jpg

K. Roman 06-22-2008 12:10 PM

pic removed - ns


In looks alone, this girl wins...You could have Laura. Why is anyone arguing over who's hotter?

Dottore 06-22-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K. Roman (Post 4017396)

In looks alone, this girl wins...You could have Laura. Why is anyone arguing over who's hotter?

A question of patriotism perhaps?

speeder 06-22-2008 01:50 PM

I actually think that there is something ugly about CB, maybe it's a hardness to her face or something. Not my favorite model. She is sexy I guess for a first lady, but in a dirty way. I can see why the French like her, though, my taste rarely intersects w/ the French in those matters.

Dottore 06-22-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 4017299)

Dottore, you actually like your women slightly (or in this case massively) used but trust me on this, it's not always a good thing to hear about it. $hit if I found out my GF was touched by Mick I'd get myself checked for AIDS 1st, then dump the skank.

You illustrate my point nicely. In the US a permanently pickled, matronly, frump is considered a respectable first lady, and a hot, talented and intelligent woman is considered a skank because she admits to a sexual history (a modest one, but a history nevertheless).

In France people take delight in their new first lady, and think she reflects well on the taste and virility of their head of state. In the US the only thing that matters in a first lady is that she have no apparent sex life.

Joeaksa 06-22-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipso (Post 4017346)
Somebody is off their meds.

Yes, we have known that about you for a long time now.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214171940.jpg

K. Roman,

Us conservatives get thrown off of the board for posting something like that. Wonder if you will get away with it?

dipso 06-22-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4017545)
You illustrate my point nicely. In the US a permanently pickled, matronly, frump is considered a respectable first lady, and a hot, talented and intelligent woman is considered a skank because she admits to a sexual history (a modest one, but a history nevertheless).

In France people take delight in their new first lady, and think she reflects well on the taste and virility of their head of state. In the US the only thing that matters in a first lady is that she have no apparent sex life.

Oh, that's all going to change now. Michelle is going to spice things up a bit, I have a feeling.

It is too bad that there are still republicans in this country who still think female sexuality is a bad thing. Your description of Laura is dead on though.
They stand behind their party as homo-sexual scandal after scandal rocks it, and then trumpet the hypnotized with meds first lady as if she is Madam Curie. When the neo-cons first took office Tom Ridge complained about the exposed breasts of a statue of Lady Justice and had a curtain made to cover them.

These guys have Jeff Gannon in the whitehouse, page boy sex,public bathroom gay
sex,call boys after hours in the whitehouse, all kinds of weird homo stuff going on.
Macho as all hell though, it is very strange.

BeyGon 06-22-2008 04:38 PM

Dipsh it,
"Oh, that's all going to change now. Michelle is going to spice things up a bit, I have a feeling."

I think you are right about that, if she gets in things will change but not for the good of America.

" and then trumpet the hypnotized with meds first lady as if she is Madam Curie. "

She is an intelligent woman, dresses well and has class. The food bill in the White House will go up if MO starts eating there.

Dipsh it,
"These guys have Jeff Gannon in the whitehouse, page boy sex,public bathroom gay
sex,call boys after hours in the whitehouse, all kinds of weird homo stuff going on.
Macho as all hell though, it is very strange. "

Barny Frank, remember him, you dims keep electing him

As for the tart the President of France married, I have been out with women like that, used their cars, went to parties, had some good sex but no way in the world would I marry someone like that, A man like that in public office and every time he goes to a party he wonders how many guys there banged his wife. Or still are.
In France it seems to be ok to have a little on the side so she probably still is.

You protest the gay life so much Dipsh it, how is the closet?

K. Roman 06-22-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 4017735)
Dipsh it,
As for the tart the President of France married, I have been out with women like that, used their cars, went to parties, had some good sex but no way in the world would I marry someone like that...

Uh, yeah right.

You sound like you have such high morals but, at the same time sound like a douchebag. Ironic, huh?

fintstone 06-22-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K. Roman (Post 4017396)
...
In looks alone, this girl wins...You could have Laura. Why is anyone arguing over who's hotter?

I don't think anyone claimed she was not attractive...it was her lack of class and much acclaimed sexual promiscuity that raises questions.

The original premise was that Carla...and the French were superior to Americans "in every way." Certainly a ludicrous statement....although the current French leadership is much better than the previous.

BeyGon 06-22-2008 05:32 PM

"Uh, yeah right.

You sound like you have such high morals but, at the same time sound like a douchebag. Ironic, huh? "



Wasn't that you posting the naked picture?

So I went out with some women but didn't want to marry them, I suppose you married the only one that slept with you. Or maybe you aren't married. Still waiting.
Or, I should have married one of them and been like the Pres of France, looking around the room and wondering who is banging his wife this week?

Aurel 06-22-2008 05:46 PM

Well, well...Carla and Laura simply illustrate how different the french and the americans are. On one side of the pond, you have people who make no big deal of sexual life, and understand the difference between private matters and politics. On the other side, you have prude puritans who would rather impeach a president who got an affair in the white house, than hold another one accountable for screwing up their country, as long as he does not cheat on his boring wife. Go figure...:rolleyes:.

Aurel

BeyGon 06-22-2008 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 4017843)
Well, well...Carla and Laura simply illustrate how different the french and the americans are. One one side of the pond, you have people who make no big deal of sexual life, and understand the difference between private matters and politics. On the other side, you have prude puritans who would rather impeach a president who got an affair in the white house, than hold another one accountable for screwing up their country, as long as he does not cheat on his boring wife. Go figure...:rolleyes:.

Aurel

You miss the point of what you said, He was Impeached Because HE LIED UNDER OATH. If I was married to a lesbian for political reasons I would be doing someone else too.

How do you know Laura is boring?
And the French do understand politics, anyway the wind blows.

DARISC 06-22-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 4017878)
How do you know Laura is boring?

What kind of question is that? How do you know a joke is funny?

You're boring.

BeyGon 06-22-2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 4017941)
What kind of question is that? How do you know a joke is funny?

You're boring.

Joke, he said she was boring, I ask how he knows, She is an intelligent classy woman, I think you and your fellow travellers are boring.

RANDY P 06-22-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4017545)
You illustrate my point nicely. In the US a permanently pickled, matronly, frump is considered a respectable first lady, and a hot, talented and intelligent woman is considered a skank because she admits to a sexual history (a modest one, but a history nevertheless).

In France people take delight in their new first lady, and think she reflects well on the taste and virility of their head of state. In the US the only thing that matters in a first lady is that she have no apparent sex life.

And you illustrate my point that the French are largely fixated on the irrelevant.

rjp

RANDY P 06-22-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 4017538)
I actually think that there is something ugly about CB, maybe it's a hardness to her face or something. Not my favorite model. She is sexy I guess for a first lady, but in a dirty way. I can see why the French like her, though, my taste rarely intersects w/ the French in those matters.


Do you have any real Carla nudes?

If not, do you want to buy some? :)

fintstone 06-22-2008 07:23 PM

I think it is pretty funny that anyone would stoop so low as to post a 40 year old' woman's nude photos (from when she was a 19 year old fashion model) and proclaim that she is better than the 61 year old first lady...because she is hotter... There is a reason we call the President's wife the first lady...with the exception of Hillary who went by "co-president."

Racerbvd 06-22-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 4017997)
I think it is pretty funny that anyone would stoop so low as to post a 40 year old' woman's nude photos (from when she was a 19 year old fashion model) and proclaim that she is better than the 61 year old first lady...because she is hotter... There is a reason we call the President's wife the first lady...with the exception of Hillary who went by "co-president."

Don't forget this is the same hypocrite assshole whole slammed me for having pictures with cute chicks, and went as far as to call them derogatory names, the same hypocrite assshole who tried to get out of paying sales tax on a car. Yea, he is a real winner, POS :mad:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214192632.jpg

Bill Douglas 06-22-2008 07:49 PM

Ah, yes, Carla Bruni. I've had sex with her often. Sure she wasn't there at the time... but nevertheless excellent.

Joeaksa 06-22-2008 07:57 PM

Hey Byron,

You notice that the libs get to post pics of titties and nothing happens! If we did it it would be another week suspension!

Not that I do not like the photo but would be nice to be fair sometimes. Guess we know how McLaren feels with the FIA and Ferarri now.

DARISC 06-22-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 4018027)
Ah, yes, Carla Bruni. I've had sex with her often. Sure she wasn't there at the time... but nevertheless excellent.

Excellent :D.

RANDY P 06-22-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 4018027)
Ah, yes, Carla Bruni. I've had sex with her often. Sure she wasn't there at the time... but nevertheless excellent.

I concur. She's good. :)

DARISC 06-22-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 4018039)
Hey Byron,

You notice that the libs get to post pics of titties and nothing happens! If we did it it would be another week suspension!

Makes your jaws tight, does it? :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214195029.jpg

Oh my, I've stooped sooo low (down to Byron's level). :(

Tobra 06-22-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dipso (Post 4017186)
I would have to pick Carla.
Laura is a little embarrassing, loaded all the time and not too bright.

huh?

I get that Carla Bruni is pretty hot
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 4017519)
A question of patriotism perhaps?

no, but as my mother told me,

"You have to get out of bed and talk to them eventually."

Guess it depends on who you want to be talking to, a school teacher or a model. You ever meet any models? Give me the teacher

The titties seem to be up a long time

nostatic 06-22-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 4017558)
Y
Us conservatives get thrown off of the board for posting something like that. Wonder if you will get away with it?

Really? Who and when did it happen?

I removed the pic. Nobody reported it, I just happened to see it just now.


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