Now wait just a minute Mule...I thought "I" was a CSLONMNOPQ.... :)?

Nopq?

You're quite wrong there, and I cannot see in any way shape or form how you could possibly even think that. What have I said or inferred, EVER, that would make you think that I do not know the facts nor laws? Please, it should be quite simple, since you stated it with such clarity and conviction...bring it. Then tell me why this is not premeditated murder, and tell me why you are ALL ignoring the fact that this jury will convene to determine if it is JUSTIFIED homicide, not if it is homicide. We all know it's homicide, the question is whether he was justified within the VERY exacting but VERY poorly delineated laws.


And you're even MORE wrong, but you don't have any excuses, you simply throw the "liberal" name around like it's candy. I'm very likely LESS liberal than YOU...FAR less.

Pazuzu, if you are less liberal than Mule then I, uh, well, uh. I can't think of anything to say because that would seem to be improbable if not impossible.

If I wasn't just a dumb leftie, you would have gotten the rest of them too :)

You wouldn't be alone...

I haven't seen anything from him that shows that he is anything but a loudmouth who spouts the neo-con rhetoric...yet is seems particularly concerned about the inner working of OTHER people's lives...which is, of course, a hallmark of the new liberal/socialist. Until he shows me that he's for small government, local rights, personal freedoms, tax removal, etc, I will not believe that he is anything except a highly excitable kid with a fixation on what Fox news spews at him.

+1

Not to cause any more foaming at the mouth in this thread, but here are some facts according to the article:

Mr. Horn was not defending himself or his property. It was a neighbor's house.

Mr. Horn did not know who these people were. They could have been pros or otherwise (e.g. kids playing a prank or even committing a crime).

Mr. Horn told authorities he was going to shoot them and was advised against doing it.

Mr. Horn shot them in the back (according to the coroner's examination).

There are no opinions in the above, just information based on the articles cited.

These are my MHOs:
If Mr. Horn is exonerated, the default lawful punishment for suspected home burglary in TX is the death penalty.

All facts gathered about the victims were after the fact, thus immaterial as it related to the actual shooting. Justifying Mr. Horn's actions after the fact is something else.

Sherwood

The verdict is in. There will be no charges filed against Joe Horn. Score one for the good guys.

What are the odds he gets bankrupted by the civil suit?

A smart judge would toss that case too.

Quanell X (local blacktivist) has a protest planned outside of Horn's home. Hot times in H-town.

if they file in Texas we will,
any Lawyer taking the case ..should be shot as well.
Rika

Interesting. I'd like to read a bit more about the judges decision, other than the snippet on the Chron website. I want to know what they are going to do about the poorly worded law, and why/how the judge decided that this was a justified shooting. It will come up again, and that law will be tested again...I want to see the legal underpinnings behind the decisions know, and how they will play out next time.

This is a fact.

Pazuzu, I say you don't know the law or the facts of this case based on your utter failure to exhibit any evidence whatsoever to the contrary.

Obviously you are not from Texas, where are you from, Jersey?

You've got issues. I'm from a state that makes Texas look like a bawling little child with it's highly restrictive laws and coddling of welfare people. however, where I'm from has ZERO to do with the fact that (a) you have issues and (b) I know plenty about the law AND this case. It ain't hard for an educated, logical person such as myself to study these things with a fair level of mastery.

Now, did you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just going to sit there and let your virtual mouth masturbate some more?

If I was Horn I'd come out the door with my gun and claim they are trying to break into his home. :D

Quanell X, ... is this somewhere on the back of Tampon's or what.

Rika

I must be totally clueless.

I guess more accurately I should say the Judge in this case and I obviously know less about the law and the case than the pillar of logic, Pazuzu.
:rolleyes:

I guess you must have lived in Yemen before moving to Tejas