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Nathans_Dad 06-23-2008 05:18 PM

Imus does it again!
 
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8274906/Imus-angers-Sharpton-with-latest-race-comment?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002

Imus angers Sharpton with latest race comment

NEW YORK (AP) - Don Imus has once again injected race into his radio show.

During an on-air conversation Monday about the arrests of suspended Dallas Cowboys cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, Imus asked, "What color is he?"

Told by sports announcer Warner Wolf that Jones is "African-American," Imus responded: "There you go. Now we know."

Civil rights leader Al Sharpton issued a statement calling the exchange disturbing "because it plays into stereotypes." He says his National Action Network was still deciding how to respond.

Imus was fired from his previous show last year after he made a racially charged comment about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Representatives for Imus and WABC Radio haven't returned calls.


First off, you would think that Imus would have learned his lesson the first time.

More importantly though, exactly what is it that isn't true about his statement? When is the last time you heard of a non-black NFL player being arrested for shooting up a strip club?

Sharpton is always eager to jump on the race issue, I wish he and the other "leaders" of the black community would spend their energy realizing that the current black culture encourages this kind of behavior. Maybe if they looked in the mirror a bit more instead of always pointing the race finger they might make things better for themselves.

berettafan 06-23-2008 05:25 PM

Just proving his point.

Apparently it's illegal to take note of trends.

widgeon13 06-23-2008 05:55 PM

Bill Cosby makes the same point quit frequently when speaking of black culture and behavior, wtf is it OK for him and not Imus??

Rick Lee 06-23-2008 06:17 PM

I'd go out of my way to offend Al Sharpton at every opportunity.

Racerbvd 06-23-2008 06:22 PM

Living in a NFL town, most of the time when a ball player gets in trouble, he is one of the black players:(
Sad but true:(

widgeon13 06-23-2008 06:32 PM

I don't think Imus has to worry about working if he doesn't want to so he probably doesn't give a rats a$$ about what he says, he is not the type to be politically correct.

stomachmonkey 06-23-2008 06:59 PM

Troy Aikman was once accused of being racist because he mostly yelled at black players.

Emmet Smith came to his defense, "Of course he mostly yells at the black players, there are only 3 white guys on the team."

The NFL is 70% black. Pretty good chance it's gonna be a black guy.

Which begs the larger question, why are there only 10 black QB's out of the 90 or so on last years roster?

Imus's statement was completely irrelevant to the conversation.

He's either racist or a fuchin moron.

Jims5543 06-23-2008 07:18 PM

Imus is a racist.

When Howard 1st went to WNBC Imus referred to his side kick Robin (a black woman) and the N word all the time.

When the knappy headed ho news broke she basically said now the rest of the world knows what she knew all along.

Racerbvd 06-23-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4019927)
Troy Aikman was once accused of being racist because he mostly yelled at black players.

Emmet Smith came to his defense, "Of course he mostly yells at the black players, there are only 3 white guys on the team."

The NFL is 70% black. Pretty good chance it's gonna be a black guy.

Which begs the larger question, why are there only 10 black QB's out of the 90 or so on last years roster?

Imus's statement was completely irrelevant to the conversation.

He's either racist or a fuchin moron.

The Jaguars have a very good QB, both on & off the field.

Nathans_Dad 06-23-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4019927)
The NFL is 70% black. Pretty good chance it's gonna be a black guy.

If that were true it would be a white guy 30% of the time. Unless you know about some incidents I don't, I would say it's a white guy much less than even 10% of the time.

stomachmonkey 06-23-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad (Post 4019985)
If that were true it would be a white guy 30% of the time. Unless you know about some incidents I don't, I would say it's a white guy much less than even 10% of the time.

Correct. 10% of the time is a close number.

All races commit crimes at roughly the same percentage relative to their representation of the total population, ~15-17%. That is well documented and not disputed by anyone.

32 teams x's 53 regular season roster guys ='s 1696 players x' .3 = 508 white guys x's .16 ='s 81 white guys that are committing crimes, spousal abuse, drunk driving, steroids, etc... that have not been caught or have managed to keep it quite.

To be fair there are 189 black players committing crimes of which 170 or more have not been caught or managed to keep it quiet.

Note: that math does not include hispanics, asians or other ethnic groups as their sample size is probably too low to be relevant.

the 06-23-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4019927)

Which begs the larger question, why are there only 10 black QB's out of the 90 or so on last years roster?

What is the answer to that?

Gogar 06-23-2008 07:59 PM

Imus is a racist, and so is Al Sharpton.

The only difference is: when Imus speaks his hate, it's called a "Slip up", whereas Al Sharpton does it as a matter of course.

berettafan 06-23-2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro (Post 4019968)

When the knappy headed ho news broke she basically said now the rest of the world knows what she knew all along.

yeah, there's somebody whose opinion we should look to.

Joeaksa 06-23-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick Lee (Post 4019850)
i'd Go Out Of My Way To Offend Al Sharpton At Every Opportunity.

+1000%

jeffgrant 06-23-2008 10:21 PM

You have to wonder when it IS OK to say someone is black or white?

I enjoy watching Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) fights. In quite a few fights, both fighters wore the same trunks, so it was almost impossible to say "he's in the blue trunks", etc.

In quite a few of those fights, one guy was black, the other guy was white.

The announcers tried to describe the hardly discernible differences in the trim, etc., instead of saying "so-and-so is the black guy, so-and-so is the white guy". It was painful to listen to.


Talk about an elephant in the room.


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kstar 06-23-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4020038)
Correct. 10% of the time is a close number.

All races commit crimes at roughly the same percentage relative to their representation of the total population, ~15-17%. That is well documented and not disputed by anyone.

. . . snip . . .

I think this is arguable, and certainly disputable. In fact, the statistics show a very different picture. I should strongly note that race should not be considered the "cause" as social conditions, poverty and other non-racial factors are major determinants to crime.

edit: One could also argue minorities are unfairly singled out by LEOs, or any number of other factors which lead to the imbalance in the race/crime ratio. Hope I didn't just touch the "third rail"!

These are just stats for homicide from the US DoJ:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214287273.jpg

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

FWIW.

Jims5543 06-24-2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 4020121)
yeah, there's somebody whose opinion we should look to.

Yes, its called a black co worker who was subject to his racism.

Jim Richards 06-24-2008 04:14 AM

Imus is a freakin' old fart who's show is crap and he should really just retire. Of course, if anyone thinks he's interesting enough to listen to, well, have at it. :rolleyes:

widgeon13 06-24-2008 04:18 AM

If Sharpton didn't bring attention to this behavior would it be in the news?


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