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I would think an earthquake large enough to topple this structure would do damage to everything else, too.
How many years do you want this deck in place, Wayne? KT |
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Well Wayne, clearly you have thought this through. Now tell us, what have you got in mind for the BBQ? Will it be a pit or free standing? Gas or brickette? And what time does the party start?
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2x8's, hmmm, I used 2x12's on my deck. We choose Brazillian Redwood for the decking material, so it is pretty heavy and dense wood. After everything was said and done, with a deck that is 14 feet by 36 feet, I was at about $10,000 in supplies.
I would have left it empty and just invited Tony Hawk to come over and teach your kids to skate. See then, when they are in their early teens, you can retire. You seem pretty passionate about this whole thing (probably due to the amount of work it entails), so I hope it works out for you. I am assuming you will have a building inpsector come over and inspect it after you are done, correct? Bill |
Would pulling out those rocks and pouring concrete to level it out and then using 12X12 beams for joists overrunning the sides of the pool by a couple of feet on each end worked out?
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Sorta like a thesis defense around here, eh Wayne?
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They're your kids and you should do what you think is in the best interests. Others may disagree, but so what?
We have used swim suits with built-in, coast guard approved, flotation whenever our kids were near the water (pools, lakes, ocean, etc..) and that's worked well. The might go under, but they pop right back up like a bobber. Good luck, hope it works out for you. |
I could've saved you tons of time/money if you would've asked!
Find out who supplies McDonald's with these and fill 'er up: http://www.basinpark.com/kids/photos/ballpit.jpg P.S. - This would've been a perfect project for Milt. Could've paid him in parts. Those piers need to be level and you need more support. Consult a span table for 2 x 10's at those lengths. http://www.mcvicker.com/resguide/page013b.htm |
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Wayne, I applaud your efforts. Thats A LOT of work for a one man crew. that would is very heavy. I built something very similiar to what you are building for my Eagle Project. My pergola just wasn't in a swimming pool. The only thing that worry me at this time are the 4 posts to support each end at this time. I read that you are going to strengthen the crap out of this thing which is good. I am sure your MIT education won't fail you now.
Diagonal bracing is your friends. Make as many triangles as you can. And if you get a picture of your truck ontop of this thing...your cajones are much bigger then mine sir. |
i also worry about the west end. only 4 posts? each post is good for something like 450psi, assuming doug fir. i would calc out how heavy it is full of people, standing shoulder to shoulder, doing the chicken dance. then brace from there. i dont like the skewed conc, bases. at that point, a large 4x12 would distribute the load better. i like everything plumb. the project looks great. what is the post spacing at the east end? 8 feet?
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A BBQ you could see form outer space... how cool would that be? |
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Only two real issues I see is the stress on the bottom of the pool (I have no idea how thick the concrete is) and the outer stress against the sides of the pool. I think only a structural engineer could really answer those two issues. I don't see the structure collapsing, more an issue of the structural integrity of the pool should Wayne ever decide to recommission it.
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I think Wayne had it all figured out and wanted to see if we could come up with anything he didn't think of. Nice job, damn well done, and by yourself. I would have sealed it all up and made a putting green out of it. I don't think he can get a truck in there but I bet it would hold it when he's done.
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I'm envisioning a way that hole in the ground could be transformed into a stasis chamber for the 959. . .
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