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Montrose CC. I was one of them boys. I lived at the park and the Rose Bowl. You know in the 80s there were a good few national riders in that club.

Thurlow Rogers (N hollywood wheelman) would come out to the wed rides in the early years, and pull and break off for a good half a lap before caught. He was a monster. Old bastard still strong.

I agree about the mass prod crap. Did you ever see that gold plated Colnago that use to hang up in the front window at Ernies? Specialized bikes were breaking left and right in europe, so they rebadged them. This came from a good source. De Rosa was one of my fav. but their new stuff is just crap. If I ever buy another, I still will buy a hand made frame from a European builder. I almost had a Casati made when I was in Italy a few years ago. Shipping was $450. That stopped me. I was at th Vegas trade show a few years back. You see all that trick stuff there. I have never see them on the market, due to the cost. Everyone buy these junk and they buy em' over the net. That did away with the smaller pro shops. really too bad. MDR used to be a good shop as well.

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I have just done a deal ,resulting in this Frejus coming my way ---the serial number suggests that it might be 50 years old.
Is chromed ,so might have internal corrosion, but its worth a look.
Frejus became absorbed by Legnano.
Its my vintage ---I was good in mid 1950's----but of course, the older one gets ,the better one was!



By the way, I have a Colnago Master-mid 80 with C-record and it weighs 22 pounds ready to ride
No way you could cut 5 pounds off that,IMHO
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Bob,
WOW, Beautiful Frejus w/ some nice braze on's. If you put a finger up the tubes in the bottom bracket, you should be able to feel the pins used to hold the lugs & tubs in place for brazing. Also, try and feel the thickness of the down tube and seat tube. Some are mighty thin wall stuff.

For internal corrosion, clean it as good as possible than spray the inside of EVERY tube with WD40. Will help prevent any further rust.

Fix it up and get it back on the road!!

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Currently riding a Pinarello Catana Lusso with a few modern amenities (Dura-Ace 7800, 10-speed rear, etc.) Frame, seat, bars, etc. are all original. Wheelset is new (Mavic Askium). Pretty good ride overall. At some point I want to go to either brifters or possibly 10-speed indexed DT shifters (the DT style shifters are actually kinda' starting to grow on me a bit). And maybe lighter brakes.

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Currently riding a Pinarello Catana Lusso with a few modern amenities (Dura-Ace 7800, 10-speed rear, etc.) Frame, seat, bars, etc. are all original. Wheelset is new (Mavic Askium). Pretty good ride overall. At some point I want to go to either brifters or possibly 10-speed indexed DT shifters (the DT style shifters are actually kinda' starting to grow on me a bit). And maybe lighter brakes.

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Jeff - gorgeous frame (you're a tall mofo, huh?) Anyway, I think you're stuck as for modern parts. Check the rear spacing. If it's 126mm, I'm not sure index shifting components will work. You'll have to spread the stays which I think is dangerous for the frame's longevity.

Here's a good read about this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html
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Jeff,

You could cold set the drop outs. It will be ok, but 10speed?
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Got the 10-speed rear cassette in there now, I'm just running the original Shimano 600 6-speed indexed d/t shifters in non-indexed mode. That works fine for now.

I know, I know... 10 is a lot of gears, but it's standard on new bikes and after doing a few big hill climbs on the original 6-speed rear setup I was annoyed with the "this gear is too tall and that gear is too short" thing. The 10-speed setup works great over a variety of terrain and steepness, so I guess it was worth it.

By changing out the wheelset, the cassette upgrade wasn't all that hard actually.
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My old Campy super record equiped Viner:



Unfortunately it never gets ridden
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Got the 10-speed rear cassette in there now, I'm just running the original Shimano 600 6-speed indexed d/t shifters in non-indexed mode. That works fine for now.

I know, I know... 10 is a lot of gears, but it's standard on new bikes and after doing a few big hill climbs on the original 6-speed rear setup I was annoyed with the "this gear is too tall and that gear is too short" thing. The 10-speed setup works great over a variety of terrain and steepness, so I guess it was worth it.

By changing out the wheelset, the cassette upgrade wasn't all that hard actually.
What gruppo are you running? I ask because although I'd like to run 10-speed cassette, I don't know if my vintage Record components can handle it - even with a lot of adjustments.
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sweeeet bikes...love the frejus...

I've got an order in for my repro decals, I'll let you know how they turn out. They won't be original transfer style, but very thin vinyl which dude says will work under a clearcoat.

Just need to get it blasted now, and the fork rechromed.

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That spumoni Pinna is gorgeous. My lifelong lust bike (as in, I'd trade my 911 shell for one in a heartbeat) is a 1986 Pinarello Montello SLX, painted white spumoni in 49-50cm, dressed in C-Record. Ideally sporting some of those sweet delta brakes.
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That spumoni Pinna is gorgeous. My lifelong lust bike (as in, I'd trade my 911 shell for one in a heartbeat) is a 1986 Pinarello Montello SLX, painted white spumoni in 49-50cm, dressed in C-Record. Ideally sporting some of those sweet delta brakes.
So much for the offer I was going to give on my old Raughlie (SP?)"supercourse"...obviously it"s a POS...like a '50 chevvy 4 door sedan.

Guess I'll just haul it off to the metal recylers. Reynolds tubing may be worth 13 cents per pound these days.
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I still have and ride my Nishiki Semi-Pro I purchased new in '70 or '71 after mistakingly selling my Bianchi. A vintage Bianchi with all the Campanello hardware and sew-up tires would be something to have today.
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So much for the offer I was going to give on my old Raughlie (SP?)"supercourse"...obviously it"s a POS...like a '50 chevvy 4 door sedan.

Guess I'll just haul it off to the metal recylers. Reynolds tubing may be worth 13 cents per pound these days.
Read this before doing anything rash:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/super-course.html

Sounds as if this bike was pretty much the state of the English art at the time.
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I also have this Motobecane, which is ope to trades or for sale, I'm keeping the brake pads


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The Frejus is 'In the mail!"--I should see it this week.---I just discovered that the
gent that is sending me the frame ,has one of these---you would have to know what it is to appreciate it. We are negotiating a price right now,as it comes with a matching set of steel track handlebars.

Its a steel Cinelli headstem with the medallion! Fabulous.

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That is one beautiful stem. Is it a track stem? The angle looks to be not as steep. Cinelli made a Ti stem in the early 90 that look just lilke that one for the road. I love to have one of those back.
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my forks for the bretin went out to get the bottom 10" chromed. they should be back in a couple weeks.

Racer...PM me some details on the motobecane. age, history, price, components etc...

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Read this before doing anything rash:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/super-course.html

Sounds as if this bike was pretty much the state of the English art at the time.
Thanks for the pic...mine's green, the taller frame size...has fingertip shifters on the end of the bars. I was only kidding about the recycler...but I'll probably never ride it again. I bought it 26 March of 1974 Serial number 0020442. (Just found the original papers). dd...thanks mucho for the website, I'll have fun looking things up. Where do I measure to find out which size frame I have? I'm pretty sure it's the tallest one though. Dealer gave me a good deal because it fit so few people (I'm 6'3")

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