TX to UN - piss off
 

This story has haunted me for more than a decade now. It's one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard.

Two young girls on thier way home from a party, they stumble upon a gang initiation and are gang raped, horrifically brutalized and murdered. All the gang members are convicted and sentenced to die (save for one states' evidence minor).

Fast forward 15 years. Some of the scumbags are still not taking thier dirt naps and now the UN wants TX to stay the executions. It seems that some of the gang members are Mexican nationals and weren't given access to the Mexican consulate.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5890690.html

Whatever!! If I know TX (and I've lived here 20 years), I see Sodium thiopental, Pancuronium bromide, Potassium chloride and a gurney in thier future.

A toast to Texas on the 5th,

as for the UN , I can understand why they support this Rapist , seems they have quite a few within their ' Peace keeping force'.

Rika

If an American is busted overseas for something similar to this in Texas, would they be allowed access to American consulate? I think not. Particularly in a rape case.

Also, what is "access?" Does it mean entrance into a Mexican embassy where these guys can claim "sovereign ground" and just bide their time, or even be transported back to Mexico, Scot free?

(Of course, the Scots have nothing to do with this. It's just a phrase). SmileWavy

Fuch the UN, useless dbags!

Lake Jackson TX holy crap that's where I grew up. Just off Sycamore st. I didn't think there was anyone else from there ;) I don't miss LJ but I do miss having the beach 10 minutes away.

And to stay on topic, I hope those bastards get their dirt nap ASAP!

Hmmm, looks like a slot in the chamber opened up for Friday morning.

Lethal injection is too easy on those monsters.

I lived near Sycamore when I first got to LJ! Forrest Oaks Ln.

Yea, I don't know how having access to the Mexican consulate would have changed the facts that these animals killed two young girls. Maybe they could get thier sentence reduced to life w/o parole.

Perry's office dismissed the argument.

"The world court has no standing in Texas and Texas is not bound by a ruling or edict from a foreign court,"

Fuchin' A...

This bastard committed the crime in Texas. He was tried in Texas. He was convicted and sentenced to die in Texas. This has jack ***** to do with some god damned "world court" in the Netherlands. It's none of their business. Who cares where he comes from; Texas can send him home when they are through with him, on the 6th.

I lived on Pin Oak ct. Guess we were somewhat neighbors. My parents still live there, although they are moving soon.

so why didn't Texas just do the review in 2005 or does a review imply a possible retrial?

As I read it, the consulate just needed to be informed of the arrest. How would that have effected the trial?

Steve, I believe that was the case. Joe Medellin claims that he should get a new trial because he is a Mexican national and should have been allowed to contact the Mexican consulate for legal assistance. Even though he had lived in the US since he was six years old and had gone to elementary, middle and high school here.

It was basically a delaying tactic and a push for a new trial.

wouldnt the guys lawyer already contacted his embasy 15yrs ago, when he was originally on trial? whay is this coming up now. he missed his chance to get off years ago. time for the courts decision to be completed.

Similar case happened in VA a few years back. A Peruvian national raped and murdered a jogger, was convicted, sentenced and executed. VA is pretty fast about this stuff, much more so than TX or FL, though TX and FL get all the good press for it. When it came out that the perp was never offered a meeting with a rep. from his embassy, the Wash. Post asked then-Governor Jim Gilmore what kind of message that would send to foreigners. Gilmore said, "The message is 'don't commit capital murder in Virginia'." Gotta love it.

If I were his lawyer, I'd purposely forget to do that for a few years, so I could play that card later.

Those guys need a good killing!

Death by chainsaw. In the ass.

That'd be about right.

The more I learn about Texas, the more I like it.

Nothing new here. The UN has supported (or looked the other way) for years in Africa and their goons down there. They dont call them "dick-tators" for nothing.

My thoughts exactly! Wish they were off of our shores and our of our hair.

Wayne, you could always relocate Pelican to Texas! How different would Pasadena,TX or Deer Park,TX be to El Segundo? The refineries and power plants don't look much different...

This type of situation is exactly why liberal thinking individuals need to be reminded that the suggestion we give up our sovereignty and freedom as a nation to play in the "world court" and "United Nations" will never *ever* yield a morally responsible outcome and runs precisely counter to why this country was founded.

God bless the souls of those two young girls and may their families see a long delayed justice.

no doubt this is the case
No state income tax, very business friendly, you could buy a nice house on a lake someplace for a fraction of the cost of a rathole in Cali

I remember when this happened. Shortly after I started my residency. I can see the pics they posted in the paper of those girls if I close my eyes, pretty horrific.

Unfortunately it gets so hot the roads melt and you have to water your foundation so it doesn't crack, but other than that you're pretty much spot on. A few years back was in downtown Ft. Worth at the midnight hour with the rellies just hanging out...one of the safest places I've been in a long time. And the coppers down there weren't puttin' up with any ***** either.

Did the UN intervene when the American kid was lashed for spitting gum on the street? I don't remember (although I could be wrong) him getting a day with the American consulate...

I think you mean Michael Faye, who vandalized cars with spray paint in Singapore, which is a bit more than spitting gum. And yes, Clinton personally intervened on his behalf and got his number of caning swats reduced, IIRC. If I ever caught someone messing with one of my cars, they'd beg for a caning over what I'd do to them.

Do you have any idea what a Toyata Camry costs in Singapore? Something like $100-150K and you have to wait for years for the permit (someone has to die!).

And compare Singapore's government and civil rights to the USA? There is no free spreech in Singapore. Want to try? go there and say something bad about the President. You will be in jail so fast, you will not believe it.

Red-Beard, when you're president, please know I'd love to be your envoy to Singapore.

Dammit, you're right, they did talk a lot about the gum spitting thing too.

However, my point remains...did the UN feel the need to intervene? Clinton did it upon his own personal decision, AFAIK...well, I'm sure there was some voter influence, but that's still different than the UN calling out about consulates...

Oh, and in case some of you are drunk or daft right now, but I'm supporting Texas telling the UN to piss off here...just as I'd support Texas telling the US government to piss off if THEY were trying this stunt.

Maybe we need to get the Texas lawyers a-workin on that Secession thang...

Believe it or not, I'm kind of 50/50 on this.

Clearly, in this case, consulting with the Mexican consulate would have meant jack squat. Why? Because by and large, our system of justice is impartial.

However, if I was in some foreign country and accuses of a crime, I'd sure as hell want access to an American Embassy/consulate. Remember the whole Madeline McCain thing? It seemed to me that the Portuguese police didn't have any real leads and accused the parents to drive them from the country and bring the investigation to an abrupt end. (It was embarrassing for the Portuguese government.) In many Asian countries, their justice system is largely based on family reputation. Essentially the ONLY argument made in those courts is: XXX could not have murdered YYY because XXX comes from a respectable family and he would not bring shame upon them. The net effect of this kind of justice is that people from wealthy/influential families never get convicted, while people from poor/common families do. Guess what? Foreigners have no standing in this kind of justice system as their family history is unknown. Other countries have justice systems based on bribes and corruption. Again, I'd sure as hell want access to an American Embassy/Consulate.

All he would have had to do is say, "Yo soy Mexicano" He just waited 15 years to do so to drag his miserable life out a bit longer

The perps had lived here for many years. Despite their citizenship, they weren't really foreigners.

Anyway, we have a treaty to allow foreigners who get arrested meet with someone from their consulate. I don't have a problem with this. However, it is very much a states' rights issue. I thought there was a SCOTUS ruling on this a few years back, but can't remember exactly.