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TX to UN - piss off

This story has haunted me for more than a decade now. It's one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard.

Two young girls on thier way home from a party, they stumble upon a gang initiation and are gang raped, horrifically brutalized and murdered. All the gang members are convicted and sentenced to die (save for one states' evidence minor).

Fast forward 15 years. Some of the scumbags are still not taking thier dirt naps and now the UN wants TX to stay the executions. It seems that some of the gang members are Mexican nationals and weren't given access to the Mexican consulate.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5890690.html

Whatever!! If I know TX (and I've lived here 20 years), I see Sodium thiopental, Pancuronium bromide, Potassium chloride and a gurney in thier future.

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Old 07-17-2008, 10:03 AM
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A toast to Texas on the 5th,

as for the UN , I can understand why they support this Rapist , seems they have quite a few within their ' Peace keeping force'.

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If an American is busted overseas for something similar to this in Texas, would they be allowed access to American consulate? I think not. Particularly in a rape case.

Also, what is "access?" Does it mean entrance into a Mexican embassy where these guys can claim "sovereign ground" and just bide their time, or even be transported back to Mexico, Scot free?

(Of course, the Scots have nothing to do with this. It's just a phrase).
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:35 AM
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Lake Jackson TX holy crap that's where I grew up. Just off Sycamore st. I didn't think there was anyone else from there I don't miss LJ but I do miss having the beach 10 minutes away.

And to stay on topic, I hope those bastards get their dirt nap ASAP!
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Lake Jackson TX holy crap that's where I grew up. Just off Sycamore st. I didn't think there was anyone else from there I don't miss LJ but I do miss having the beach 10 minutes away.

And to stay on topic, I hope those bastards get their dirt nap ASAP!
I lived near Sycamore when I first got to LJ! Forrest Oaks Ln.

Yea, I don't know how having access to the Mexican consulate would have changed the facts that these animals killed two young girls. Maybe they could get thier sentence reduced to life w/o parole.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:27 AM
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Perry's office dismissed the argument.

"The world court has no standing in Texas and Texas is not bound by a ruling or edict from a foreign court,"


Fuchin' A...

This bastard committed the crime in Texas. He was tried in Texas. He was convicted and sentenced to die in Texas. This has jack ***** to do with some god damned "world court" in the Netherlands. It's none of their business. Who cares where he comes from; Texas can send him home when they are through with him, on the 6th.
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I lived near Sycamore when I first got to LJ! Forrest Oaks Ln.
I lived on Pin Oak ct. Guess we were somewhat neighbors. My parents still live there, although they are moving soon.
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so why didn't Texas just do the review in 2005 or does a review imply a possible retrial?

As I read it, the consulate just needed to be informed of the arrest. How would that have effected the trial?
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so why didn't Texas just do the review in 2005 or does a review imply a possible retrial?

As I read it, the consulate just needed to be informed of the arrest. How would that have effected the trial?
Steve, I believe that was the case. Joe Medellin claims that he should get a new trial because he is a Mexican national and should have been allowed to contact the Mexican consulate for legal assistance. Even though he had lived in the US since he was six years old and had gone to elementary, middle and high school here.

It was basically a delaying tactic and a push for a new trial.
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wouldnt the guys lawyer already contacted his embasy 15yrs ago, when he was originally on trial? whay is this coming up now. he missed his chance to get off years ago. time for the courts decision to be completed.
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Similar case happened in VA a few years back. A Peruvian national raped and murdered a jogger, was convicted, sentenced and executed. VA is pretty fast about this stuff, much more so than TX or FL, though TX and FL get all the good press for it. When it came out that the perp was never offered a meeting with a rep. from his embassy, the Wash. Post asked then-Governor Jim Gilmore what kind of message that would send to foreigners. Gilmore said, "The message is 'don't commit capital murder in Virginia'." Gotta love it.
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wouldnt the guys lawyer already contacted his embasy 15yrs ago, when he was originally on trial? whay is this coming up now. he missed his chance to get off years ago. time for the courts decision to be completed.
If I were his lawyer, I'd purposely forget to do that for a few years, so I could play that card later.
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That'd be about right.

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Nothing new here. The UN has supported (or looked the other way) for years in Africa and their goons down there. They dont call them "dick-tators" for nothing.
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Fuch the UN, useless dbags!
My thoughts exactly! Wish they were off of our shores and our of our hair.
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Wayne, you could always relocate Pelican to Texas! How different would Pasadena,TX or Deer Park,TX be to El Segundo? The refineries and power plants don't look much different...

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