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Got a good laugh out of that one, Rick. Read it again.
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From this link http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm
So of the approximately 2 million black on white crimes in 2002, and the approximately 1,700 white on black crimes, most of those 2 million had nothing to do with hate, or because they were white? Is that what you're trying to tell me? Almost 1,200 TIMES more black on white crime than the reverse, and virtually none of its is hate crime. And when you consider that blacks make up about 15% of the US population that makes an effective rate of closer to 8,400 TIMES the white rate of interracial crime. But as BHO said today, we still have a long way to go on racism in this country. Boy is that an understatement.
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In America, we place different values on individual's lives based upon that person. For example, if the President was attacked and at the same time a homeless man was attacked, who would the public invest their time in solving?
Domestic Violence covers a spouse, exspouse, girlfriend, exgirlfriend, cohabitant, former cohabitant and is most often a felony account. The injuries can be minor in nature or severe. If the husband slaps his wife and leaves a red mark, he is going to jail for a felony. If he slapped his friend with the same strength, he may not even go to jail. Another example is "Terrorist Threats." The law was created mostly to arrest gangsters when they threatened others with the backing of their gang. Now it is used on any threats of GBI or death for anyone. There is a "letter of the law" and a "spirit of the law." The "letter of the law" is applied directly as it is printed. The "spirit of the law" allows the officer to use his discretion in the application of the law. For example, a known gangmember walking down the street carrying a "Dodger bat" (miniature baseball bat given out at Dodger games) in case there is a problem is much different, at least in my mind, from an elderly woman carrying the same "Dodger bat" in case something happened going out on a walk. The crime for each could be 12020PC, but the elderly woman does not fall within the "spirit of the law." Hate Crimes do not defend defend groups, they defend the same principals that our founding fathers defended. The malice attached to the actions has everything to do with the intent and subsequent punishment. Someone earlier posted victimizing a 9 year old and a 19 year old as being the same. Absolutely not because the crime "shocks the conscience." For political reasons, the DAs select particular cases to charge hate crimes in. I would like to add gangsters killing gangsters as a hate crime. Think about it, they shoot, maim, and kill each other based upon a group affiliation and belief. Under the specific definition, it seems to fit. David
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Hugh, you might want to cross reference those facts with a reliable source like the National Inquirer first. Exactly how many hours did it take you to find a grossly exagerated inflamatory number like that? Hard to imagine google is that bad as to give you THAT as the 1st hit.
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Oh and Byron,
Don't alter my posts and put words in my mouth that you know are not true. I have no problem letting you know next time I'm in Fla. We can discuss in person if you want.
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Again I say it's just a ploy to paint right wingers as racists/homophobes knowing full well they'll actually appose the idea on principle. Conservative are not without guilt though either, the cop-killer laws mentioned earlier are a good example. They bait liberals to oppose them allowing them allowing us topoint and say "look how they favor killers over police". It's all part of the game, it's all wrong.
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For ME this is not a left wing/right wing thing. I think I have been very clear in the past re: my lineage. My father is black, my mother white. I have seen bias from BOTH sides and have been a victim of bias from EVERY side. The first girl I was going to marry, her father did not give a crap that I was half black, his problem was I was not Jewish. Never did tell him that the white part of me is pure Aryan. Poor guy would a had a coronary. Racism, IE, hate sucks. It does not matter which side it comes from. It sucks. No individual group is immune to racism, not crackers, niggers, spics, kikes, wops, chinks, or anyone else. It's ugly. It's vile. It is the lowest form of human nature. I have been picked on for being a nigger, a honky and mistakenly a spic, pork chop and other "undesirable" latino. You think hate has no long term effect? Try growing up being taught to hate everything you are. I'm older and have gotten past it but you never forget what it feels like to be hated for being who you are. So the rest you can frankly kiss my nice firm round hairy ass.
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Wow, was a bit more buzzed than I thought last night.
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That photo was a hate crime against all straight men. It shocked the conscience.
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lol, indeed it did.
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Sorry guys.
Got home last night and wound up doing an impromptu tailgate with a bunch of the neighbors. I think it was the bottle of port that clouded my better judgement. I only half remember doing it and was a bit shocked myself this morning.
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Sorry guys.
Got home last night and wound up doing an impromptu tailgate with a bunch of the neighbors. I think it was the bottle of port that clouded my better judgement. I only half remember doing it and was a bit shocked myself this morning.
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OJ killed Nicole 'cause of love. Do we need a "love crime" law?
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All I did was fill in the blanks, You left them blank, it could have been anyone, I just filled in the ones who are the victems the most. I guess you missed my responce about cross burning & punishment.
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Didn't you get the memo?
I was trashed last night. Don't make me put back the pic of my naked hairy ass.
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So tell us why you even had such a photo on your computer. If you found it online, it must have taken some searching and thus multiple clicks through other such photos to find "just the right one". That photo was just beyond the pale.
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