Election fraud in Oregon???

[pwd72s]

Funny thing in the snail mail today. Addressed to my daughter @ our address. Daughter hasn't lived in Oregon for 18 years. From the "voter participation center" in Boston, Mass. Actually the Oregon chapter of same. Democrat Party at work I assume.

An official State of Oregon voter registration form, with a postage paid envelope addressed to the state elections division.

Yep, one can register by mail here. Just check the box saying you are a citizen over 18, enclose a copy of a utility bill to prove you live here, and you can vote by mail. Now, if you're already in the country illegally, would checking a box saying you were a citizen bother you?

As the "special instructions for Oregon registrants" says: "Oregon has a vote by mail process. Instead of using traditional polling places where voters go to cast ballots on election day, a ballot is mailed to each registered voter. Therefore, there are no requirements regarding identification at the polls. (emphasis mine)

Also: "If you do not submit your driver's license, ID, or social security number, you must submit current, valid proof of identification. To send it with this application, enclose one of the following: (A COPY of a current utility bill is on the list. In the order of shortening this, I'll omit the others...none of which I'd consider valid I.D.)

Yet, our Secretary of State says there is no evidence of election fraud in Oregon.

I submit that he isn't looking very hard...

[Rick Lee]

Hasn't OR had this since around 1998? I think election fraud is the single greatest opportunity for political activists. It is NEVER prosecuted, rarely investigated and anyone who supports stricter id requirements is immediately called a racist and a hater.

[id10t]

The Battle of Athens, Tn (armed revolt - in 1946!) was caused by election/voting issues...

http://www.jpfo.org/alerts02/alert20080801.htm

[jyl]

Under AG Gonzales, the Dept of Justice made it a big priority for years to investigate and prosecute election fraud cases. All the US Attorneys were compelled to focus on this, along with the local FBI, and some US Attorneys were fired for not bringing enough cases. That is a lot of federal prosecutorial firepower. At the end of the day, how many meaningful election fraud convictions have been returned? I can't think of many.

[jyl]

Here's a couple stories with some numbers. Certainly not an exhaustive search. Someone who thinks voter fraud is rampant, feel free to provide links to credible data.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=print

As of 2007, after 5 years the DoJ had gotten 86 voter fraud convictions. 86 votes - that's an infinitesimal percent of votes cast.

One voting machine malfunction can screw up thousands of votes all at once. And there've been plenty of those. (No, I don't claim the machines are "rigged" by the Reps.)

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070314_the_real_voter_fraud/

In Ohio, some Republicans after the 2004 presidential election circulated stories of dead voters and those who showed up to vote several times—they even conjured up the image of voters who supposedly were bused in from West Virginia during the 1960 election. But a study by the state’s League of Women Voters and a group representing the homeless found that of the 9 million votes cast in Ohio in 2002 and 2004, a total of four were deemed ineligible or fraudulent by the Board of Elections or local prosecutors. “The odds are greater to win the lottery or get struck by lightning than someone casting an ineligible vote in Ohio,” the report concluded.

In Connecticut, state officials became alarmed when the Republican National Committee claimed that 54 residents had voted twice—in Connecticut as well as in another state—in the 2000 election. But a probe by the secretary of state discovered that most hadn’t voted in Connecticut at all, while some had voted in Connecticut but not in the other state. Four had birth dates different from those supplied by the RNC. In New Jersey, Missouri, Michigan and elsewhere, hot claims of fraud have likewise turned out to be hot air, according to an examination of the cases by Barnard College scholar Lorraine C. Minnite.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by id10t

The Battle of Athens, Tn (armed revolt - in 1946!) was caused by election/voting issues...

http://www.jpfo.org/alerts02/alert20080801.htm

They made a pretty good movie loosely based on those events. Tom Sizemore is in it.

[pwd72s]

Awfully ironic that the Oregon libs just love vote (and register) by mail.