Another richly deserved TX execution.

[Rick Lee]

May he burn in hell. Good for TX.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5931094.html

[widgeon13]

+1000

Could they make it a little more dramatic??

"God forgive them, receive my spirit," Heliberto Chi said in English. In Spanish, he told a friend watching through a window that he loved him and appreciated his hard work. He appeared to be whispering a prayer in Spanish with a tear at the corner of his right eye as the lethal drugs began to take effect.

[lendaddy]

I'm against the death penalty for one reason. Those that sentence and execute the offender get saddled with a lifetime of guilt and mental anguish. I hate the idea of letting these guys create even more pain on the way out.

Sure some can hand it down and administer it with no problems but most cannot.

I'd much rather see them making little rocks from big rocks for the rest of their lives.

[red-beard]

That is the Chronic for you. We don't even wrap fish with it, as it will spoil the fish...

[Rick Lee]

I'd be proud to execute such scum myself. No guilt whatsoever. Well, maybe a little guilt...that lethal injection is waaaaay too nice a punishment for most who get it.

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I'd be proud to execute such scum myself. No guilt whatsoever. Well, maybe a little guilt...that lethal injection is waaaaay too nice a punishment for most who get it.

I understand that, but most are not like you. What are your thoughts on those that cannot deal with it so cavalierly? Taking a life (any life) is a serious shock to most people and changes them forever. Why give a creep that power?

[rcecale]

Originally Posted by lendaddy

I'm against the death penalty for one reason. Those that sentence and execute the offender get saddled with a lifetime of guilt and mental anguish. I hate the idea of letting these guys create even more pain on the way out.

Sure some can hand it down and administer it with no problems but most cannot.

I'd much rather see them making little rocks from big rocks for the rest of their lives.

Bring back firing squads. 12 shooters, 6 with rounds, 6 with blanks. Problem solved, if you can convince yourself that all you did is fire a blank.

Randy

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by rcecale

Bring back firing squads. 12 shooters, 6 with rounds, 6 with blanks. Problem solved, if you can convince yourself that all you did is fire a blank.

Randy

That's exactly my point. Even back then they knew that the (potential/partial)alleviation of guilt was important. These scumbags just aren't worth it.

[id10t]

Or automate it and mechanize it.

Think small cell, with a grid of 22s on the ceiling, spaced 1/2" apart. Load 'em all up, set a somewhat random timer, tell the criminal "we're not sure when, but in the next 24 to 48 hours, its gonna go off. hit the button if you want/need a meal or a drink of water". Even if he/she is standing up, a few rounds will be direct head shots....

[Rikao4]

Len, if I had any problem with pushing the button now..or thought I might feel guilty someday
I would spend 5 minutes with the victims family, go look at the photos..
then I would RUN and JUMP on the button.
oh..and sleep like a baby.

Rika

[Christien]

I think lendaddy's got a really good point. Sure, we can all talk big ('oh, I'd love to do it!') but I think when it actually comes down to it, taking another person's life, no matter how evil they are, will be a very emotional, traumatic experience. I think the vast majority of people would be unable to just shake that off and go on with daily life. Look at the psychological issues soldiers come home with, and they're trained killers.

FTR, I used to be very anti-capital punishment, though I've changed that attitude somewhat over the last few years.

[Victor]

Um. You guys do realise that's why a certain government invented the gas chamber. No ill effects on the 'executioners'.

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by Victor

Um. You guys do realise that's why a certain government invented the gas chamber. No ill effects on the 'executioners'.

There are still people involved and certainly those that cast the sentence.

In the end what's the point? Revenge? Not worth it. Little rocks from big rocks.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by lendaddy

I understand that, but most are not like you. What are your thoughts on those that cannot deal with it so cavalierly? Taking a life (any life) is a serious shock to most people and changes them forever.

You misjudge humanity.

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by Moses

You misjudge humanity.

I have to imagine there have been surveys on those involved. That would be interesting reading.

[Hads930]

Len

Do most of the people in Michigan feel the same way? If so, I find it no coincidence that Detroit routinely finds itself at the top of the most dangerous/crappy cities in the U.S. list. Not to say that we have no crime down here, we are just doing something about it.

Additionally-we have enough illegals to make the small rocks for us........................

[lendaddy]

Originally Posted by Hads930

Len

Do most of the people in Michigan feel the same way? If so, I find it no coincidence that Detroit routinely finds itself at the top of the most dangerous/crappy cities in the U.S. list. Not to say that we have no crime down here, we are just doing something about it.

Additionally-we have enough illegals to make the small rocks for us........................

If you're implying I'm liberal...well "that ain't me babe."

I don't see the death penalty as harder on crime than hard time. The way it's administered now it's not even the slightest deterrent.

[rcecale]

How 'bout we just have other death-row inmates do all the dirty work.

Number 2 kills Number 1; Number 3 kils Number 2; Number 4 kils Number 3; etc...

This way, if they do end up feeling guilty about killing someone, (a.) it's probably not the first time, and (b.) they won't be feeling guilty about it much longer. (Even though it would be for the rest of their lives )

Randy

[911teo]

Are any of you guys Christians? Please do not treat the question as a challenge but as a genuine question. I'd like to understand and clear some doubts that I have.

I understand the bible says "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth", but I thought that Jesus said that God should be the only one to judge, and that we'll face the ultimate judgement when we die.

Don't you think that by killing a man you are robbing them of the chance of finding Jesus and God?
I am not extremely religious myself and I am not interested in the view of non religious people.

I thought TX was a very Christian state and I struggle to understand how people come to terms with that.

I though Jesus predicated forgiveness and that God's ways are unknown to us.

Maybe I am wrong on what Jesus said and there is no contradiction vs the bible stance.

[Rikao4]

In another life I tried real hard to keep folks alive,
seen my share of death and mayhem,
been shot at & shot back,
no guilt, I sleep fine,
when you rape and torture , then kill a 13 old girl.
I don't see human..your a roach.....next

Rika