Why Science Is An Insconsquential Enterprise.

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The planet earth and the creatures that live upon it have existed for Billions of years. A monkey neither knows nor cares that man has walked on the moon nor landed a vehicle on Mars. So who does science benefit, but Human beings. Science is for the benefit of Human perception and human perception alone, and in that sphere of perception it is merely a tangential enterprise since other realms of perception exist. Since science serves humans in a material world and not humans serving science it is the human being and his perceptions that are important. Science has become of obsolete the minute that man exploded an atomic bomb in the desert of New Mexico. For at that moment man could with an instant of impulsive behavior wipe himself off the face of the earth. So what becomes of ultimate importance in that environment, but self awareness to better understand man's own impulsive behavior.

[Moses]

Truly, truly bizarre. Science inconsequential except for humans? Are you serious?

[Nathans_Dad]

I suspect Tabs' point here is that the universe will continue to function the same no matter what human science may do. The universe was functioning long before we arrived and will continue to function long after we're gone.

Until such time as we figure out how to alter the functioning of the universe, does our knowledge really mean anything to anything else but us?

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Science is for geeks who like to masterbate intellectually...it is a complete tangential mind fk. Like taking dope...ya think ya see god but all you are doing is hallucinating.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

I suspect Tabs' point here is that the universe will continue to function the same no matter what human science may do. The universe was functioning long before we arrived and will continue to function long after we're gone.

Until such time as we figure out how to alter the functioning of the universe, does our knowledge really mean anything to anything else but us?

If that's his point, I agree. Like Carlin said, "the earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas."

However, science has made incredibly profound changes in our planet and it's creatures. No doubt about that. Hell, acid rain sterilized over 90% of the Adirondack lakes in the 1940's. Without science, modern domestication of animals would have been impossible. Without domesticated animals, most of the edible wildlife would be gone by now. Food science and modern medicine have enabled the global population explosion. That has had a huge impact on the planet. But alas, when we're gone it will be "back to your regularly scheduled program."

Today... Now? SCIENCE is king.

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No one ever said it couldn't be of profit in the material world.

[Hugh R]

Agree with Moses. I'd bet the average lifespan in the middle ages was under or around 30 with close to a 25% infant mortality rate. I didn't bother to look it up, just a guess. Where it not for modern science, I wouldn't have lived child birth (one of three live triplets born in 1954, weighed 2 lbs, 8 oz). Add in hernia, appendicitis, and right orchectomy (look it up) and loss of a number of feet of large and small intestine from a serious bicycle/taxi accident. I should be dead about five times over.

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However science in of itself has become of secondary importance...BECAUSE we can wipe ourselves out UNLESS we LEARN how to manage that tool successfully. Acid rain would not have occured if it were not for sicience.

[Mr.Puff]

Originally Posted by tabs

Science is for geeks who like to masterbate intellectually...it is a complete tangential mind fk. Like taking dope...ya think ya see god but all you are doing is hallucinating.

OK, but the next time you are in the hospital you better kiss sciences ass because it just saved yours.

[87coupe]

Sounding a lot like Professor Kazinski.

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by tabs

Acid rain would not have occured if it were not for sicience.

Don't and can't volcanoes produce acid rain?

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Originally Posted by dewolf

Don't and can't volcanoes produce acid rain?

Yes it can, sometimes it can be devastating on a local scale and rarely can it be devasting on a planetary scale. However it is mans science that has polluted the planet. The most important thing is not sceince but how aware man is of his own behavior, so that he can modify it so that he does not wipe himself out with his own science.

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Teddy Kazinsky..... Nope I like my ACed house....

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by tabs

so that he can modify it so that he does not wipe himself out with his own science.

Science being wielded by religions who want to rule the planet are more frightening. Better still, remove money from the planet and see what happens. Money and greed are our biggest threats right now. Major corporations and government are raping the little people.

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Ultimately the more aware you are about your behavior and your surroundings the more you can enjoy your life. Material things can not be enjoyed if one is bound up in knots by ones own psyche and ignorance about ones surroundings. If one is in the dark and hears a noise ones imagination can blow things all out of proportion, that is why thinking about things is like turning the lights on and discovering that it is just the wind blowing a piece of paper around. In the light ones fears diminish proportionally.

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Originally Posted by dewolf

Science being wielded by religions who want to rule the planet are more frightening. Better still, remove money from the planet and see what happens. Money and greed are our biggest threats right now. Major corporations and government are raping the little people.

Now we are becoming political and next Bush is going to be mentioned. Lets skip the politics on this one. Let us suffice it to say that by being aware you can tell when your being screwed, and it won't be so easy to get away with the more aware one is.

[john70t]

It's a faith-based belief system that the universe is vast, the earths surface has no end, humans are carbon-based cellular cluster of amino acids, and that we are actually exchanging electrical data with other humans many miles away.
There's no proof of any of it.


I think one of the sub atomic therories states that the matter which makes up individual atoms have only a very high probablity of existing in one location and dimention. Multiply that by the total atomic particals, and it becomes highly likely that we are just morphing probability clusters of energy.
As Keanu Reeves would say.....Woah!

[dewolf]

Science these days is political. It's about who has the most cash to come up with a solution, cure or better crop. Then we are held to ransom by these a-holes. Need those meds to cure your sick kid, sure science can help you but it's gunna cost you $1000 a month to keep your child alive.

[tabs]

In the defense of science it iis either pay or die. In the old days it was just die.

[968rz]

WOW! Did I just fall into a 60's hash party? These are some rather deep thoughts (or perhaps flash backs?)