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Liberal and Conservative Personality Types

The differences between Liberal and Conservative personality types became starkly clear while watching the Obama, McCain public forum on CNN. Obama is the prototypical Liberal in that he is equivocal in nature. The Liberal recognizes that he has a dark side to his personality and is always questioning his motives for acting and thus can be hesitant in his actions.

The Conservative on the other hand does not tend to contemplate his dark side but chooses from right or wrong. This either or dichotomy tends to make their personalities rigid in nature, and can lead to zealotry which can put them on dubious moral ground. Senator McCain transcends this prototypical Conservative behavior for one reason. He was held as a POW for 5 years. This abyss forced him to confront his dark side, from which he was able to transcend Conservative dogma. This is the reason why he is considered to be a maverick in his own party.


This was posted to Charlie Rose Comment Board as well as Radio Tabs....there is awhole host of new stuff on the TABSTERS Radio Network.

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Senator McCain transcends this prototypical Conservative behavior for one reason. He was held as a POW for 5 years. This abyss forced him to confront his dark side, from which he was able to transcend Conservative dogma. This is the reason why he is considered to be a maverick in his own party.
Early in McCain's political career it became clear that he would not toe the party line, even under tremendous pressure. Some party leaders tried to isolate him, jeopardizing his political career. McCain just dug his heels in. I'm not sure if McCains stubborn streak is a good thing or not. One thing's certain; it's hard to scare a man who spent 5 years in a prison camp.
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McCain also see tyhat life is to short to do anything but what you think is best for yourself and or nation.
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An old cartoon strip comes to mind:

“174 to nothing! How could we lose when we were so sincere?” __Charlie Brown

Many people are sincere about their beliefs, but they are sincerely wrong!
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Depends on how you define personality type.

I am very conservative in many areas -- from mountaineering to engine C.R.'s but fairly liberal politically - except fiscally (back to conservatism). OTOH, a basic conservative personality trait is supposed to be a degree of adverseness to new phenomena. But I welcome that and always like to shake things up or try new things. Again (back to the big C) if I think it may be risky I'll let some other moron go first.
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Does anyone ever consider that there are actually people who take issues one at a time, and who thus do not fall nicely under the labels "conservative" vs "liberal"?

The instinct to categorize people under two opposing labels - us vs them, race or religion A vs B, or liberal vs conservative - is one of the most primitive and disappointing tendencies of the human race.

Humanity has reached a state of complexity such that the two party system, which is seemingly equivalent to conservative vs liberal, is seriously limiting our ability to operate on the world level.
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That's way too complicated for some here to consider. Please stick to putting everyone into neat little boxes. It makes demonizing them so much easier.
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Early in McCain's political career it became clear that he would not toe the party line, even under tremendous pressure. Some party leaders tried to isolate him, jeopardizing his political career. McCain just dug his heels in. I'm not sure if McCains stubborn streak is a good thing or not. One thing's certain; it's hard to scare a man who spent 5 years in a prison camp.
That's not what I watched. I would agree that for a time McCain was ruggedly, doggedly, independent. Then came the immense pressure. And the rumor of his black 'love child.' And then John McCain caved. Since that day, his 'platform' has been difficult to pin down because of the many policy shifts. He had his chance. And blew it. If this campaign begins to focus on waffle-behavior, McCain will be crucified.
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If this campaign begins to focus on waffle-behavior, McCain will be crucified.
I'm no fan of John McCain, but Obama is the Grand PooBah of waffling. Obama has radically revised his positions on nearly every single issue of importance. Obama's instincts seem anti-business. If you want full employment with lots of happy taxpayers, that's BAD for America.

McCain scares me for a whole host of reasons. He's wrong on Iraq. Period. He has a reputation for stubbornness that may not serve us well. We have no good choices, IMO.
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We have no good choices, IMO.
+1, unfortunately.
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Like usual, I agree with Moses. McCain is unsuitable. Obama is not really even aware of the duties of the job.
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Like usual, I agree with Moses. McCain is unsuitable. Obama is not really even aware of the duties of the job.
I get that he knows this and my hope is that he is able to put together the right team of people to fill in the blanks. There is some good leadership in Washington, not much but some, and he's got plenty of good names to choose from. Im eagerly awaiting his choices.

McCain, the maverick (what a stupid worn out term), on the other hand is surrounding himself entirely with lobbyists, and dirty ones at that. Its expected really, he's a mega-millionaire, he's connected to industry, he's a suit... like a less corrupt Ted Stevens. The closest analogy I can think of is if Obama was taking direct public advice from George Soros and Richard Gere, it would raise eyebrows and I would personally rethink my support for him.
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Obama has been leased by the Kenndys. He is now their creature. Caroline Kennedy is on the vetting commitee for the VP nomination...She is serving as Teddy's proxy.

Obama says nothing without the approval of the Kennedy machine. David Axelrod is his keeper. When Obama was first fronted by the Daleys, they hired David Axelrod. Sat Obama down in the office and slapped him across the face and told him to do everything that Axelrod tells him to do, and not to open his mouth unless Axelrod tells him to. They told him that they were fronting a lot of money so he could run and that he better not screw it up with his Socialist ranting.

The Kennedys get their choich of VP and the nominations to the Supreme Court.

This is the last hurrah for the Kennedys.
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Have you noticed Obama's comments about the VP candidate...'We are going to get it right." That means that he doesn't even know what is going on.
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Obama is so ANTI-Business that Jamie Dimon of Morgan Stanley has said, "The Democrats are crazy if they get their way they will ruin the country."

Dimon for you who don't know was a big HIllary supporter and is one of the Democratic Whales on Wall Street. As part of Hillarys going away party she had to introduce her big donors to Obama, that meeting happened on June 27. On July 1st Dimon made those comments. That was his take on Obama from that meeting.
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Yeah, I heard that opinion from Morgan Stanely too. I also heard Wall Street workers were pouring money into the Obama camp, much more so than McCain. Perception <-> Reality
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Let me clue you Michigan...the Boyz over at the Fed DON"T LIKE OBAMA....in other words the people who control the money supply are besides themselves.
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It sounds like you guys are scared ****less.

Then again, you always were. If it's not WMD, then it's the Men In Black who are scheduled to confiscate all your guns. If it's not that, then it's terrrrists. But the main, over-riding fear is.......liberals. Are you guys really that scared of me?

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