Dems Build Secret Prison

[Mule]

DENVER - Activist groups say the converted warehouse poses a threat to civil liberties. The city maintains the facility is needed in case of mass arrests during the Democratic National Convention.
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"The public was never going to view this place, it was just found out," Spagnuolo said. "They got caught with this place. They told our lawyers in negotiations that this place didn't even exist."

The makeshift holding center, dubbed "Gitmo on the Platte" by activists, is located on city-owned property near Steele Street and 38th Avenue. Newly-installed security cameras guard the exterior, chain-link fences and barbed wire form cells inside.

"We feel the city should be ashamed of this secret prison they've set up," said Re-create '68 organizer Glenn Spagnuolo.

Spagnuolo and other activists gathered outside the formerly-secret facility on Friday to protest the city's plan to use it as a processing center for all those arrested outside the DNC.

"The public was never going to view this place, it was just found out," Spagnuolo said. "They got caught with this place. They told our lawyers in negotiations that this place didn't even exist."

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=97741&catid=188

[Scott R]

The city built it actually, buddy of mine did some of the electrical on the place and his checks came from The City Of Denver. Honestly I think this is a good idea, any group that comes to my city to cause grief should be detained. I believe something like this happened in 2004 with the RNC and fingerprinting but my memory is foggy.

[BeyGon]

Sounds like good place to keep them, the Republicans could never get away with something like that.

[Mule]

The republicans would be called fascists, nazis, etc, etc, till Jesus comes.

[Jim Richards]

Both political parties are different wings of the same bird, so, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone [except Mule] that both sides play from the same rulebook:

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2004 Republican National Convention protest activity
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Protesters gather in Union Square before the march2004 Republican National Convention protest activity includes the broad range of marches, rallies, performances, demonstrations, exhibits, and acts of civil disobedience in New York City to protest the 2004 Republican National Convention and the nomination of President George W. Bush for the 2004 U.S. presidential election, as well as a much smaller number of people who marched to support Bush at the convention.

Hundreds of groups organized protests, including United for Peace and Justice, a coalition of more than 800 anti-war and social justice groups, and International ANSWER. Over 1800 individuals were arrested by the authorities, a record for a political convention in the U.S. However 90% of those charges were eventually dropped.

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Police tactics and Pier 57

Inside Pier 57, concerns have been raised about police tactics in arresting nonviolent protesters with many apparently innocent people being swept up in mass arrests.

Guantanamo on the Hudson was a term coined during the Republican National Convention by a lawyer who, amongst 1000 other people, was detained in a facility by the New York City Police, in such conditions that he said that the city had created its "own little Guantanamo on the Hudson" (an allusion to the tortures reported in prisoners camps in Guantanamo).

The City police reportedly closed a whole street where some protesters were marching, and arrested protesters and bystanders alike. People were required to show identification cards or face arrest; the arrested people were not immediately informed of charges against them.

The facility was the then-recently closed Hudson Pier Depot at Pier 57 on the Hudson River in Manhattan, a three-story, block-long pier that has been converted into a temporary holding facility, though unfit for detention of prisoners. Arrested protesters have complained about extremely poor conditions describing it as overcrowded, dirty, and contaminated with oil and asbestos. People reported having suffered from smell, bad ventilation, and even chemical burns and rashes.

Numerous troubling cases were reported, notably:

A 15-year-old diabetic girl on her way to a movie was arrested.
A former vice president of Morgan Stanley was arrested while riding her bicycle.
A 16-year-old protestor was lost to her mother for two days, even though her mother knew about and supported her daughter's participation.
Small pens were used to contain "30 to 40 people" at once.
Many people were detained longer than 24 hours on relatively trivial charges. One was a 23-year-old Montreal student arrested for disorderly conduct and released three days later. "He says he spent a total of 57 hours between the pier and Central Booking, during which time he says he was moved 14 times and repeatedly handcuffed and shackled to other protesters as young as 15."
The City reportedly refused to release the prisoners until a judge threatened to fine it for every extra hour every prisoner would spend in prison. The victims of the arrests have filed lawsuits against the City of New York.

One of the most prominent personalities arrested was Eric Corley "Emmanuel Goldstein", an important advocate of public rights and independent media, and editor of 2600: The Hacker Quarterly. The complete report of 2600 is available at http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/.


An unknown arrested protester sprawls out on the vast space of the Pier to stretch and rest in the eveningSeveral cases have since gone to court, and it has come out that the charges of resisting arrest in those cases were completely fabricated. Video evidence was shown of defendants complying peaceably with police demands. Many of the cases have since been summarily dismissed.

The New York Times has reported on two occasions that the police videotaped and infiltrated protests, as well as acting as agents provocateurs during the protests.

In addition, the New York Times reported that prior to the protests, NYPD officers traveled as far away as Europe and spied on people there who planned to protest at the RNC.

[Mule]

So the RNC arrested the diabetic girl or did the NYPD?

[Jim Richards]

Obama did it. With help from his UFO buddy.

[Scott R]

The media leaves out a few key issues here, we have two jails in Denver, one is condemned and the other is full. The condemned jail houses prisoners in areas that are still livable, but its not much. The city has been trying to build a new jail for a long time now, however no one can decide where to put it. Its not surprising that they did this as we would have no space to house a large group of people should we need to.

[Mule]

Key word, "secret!"

[Jim Richards]

How come we all know about it?

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Obama did it. With help from his UFO buddy.

I heard he was a MUSLIM!

[gtc]

I don't see why they bother corralling/detaining/arresting the protesters... politicians aren't interested in what protesters have to say.
For the most part, American protesters these days just seem to make fools of themselves. What we need is 10 million angry rednecks marching on Washington with pitchforks.

[Racerbvd]

Kinda funny that they are moving the homeless out f town too

[Jim Richards]

I think they are all in DC now. It's like South Park. Change, change, change...

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by gtc

I don't see why they bother corralling/detaining/arresting the protesters... politicians aren't interested in what protesters have to say.
For the most part, American protesters these days just seem to make fools of themselves. What we need is 10 million angry rednecks marching on Washington with pitchforks.

There's rednecks outside my workplace with picket signs. That close enough?

[Jim Richards]

They heer'd 'bout yer pink box, hmmm?

[onewhippedpuppy]

Shhhhhhh!

[Jim Richards]

Oh, yeah, it's a secret.

[RWebb]

"any group that comes to my city to cause grief should be detained"

Eh??? Is your city in Russia??

It cannot be a US city, because all of them are under the US Constitution. Freedom of Speech, remember?

Or did you mean something unusual when you used the word grief?

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by RWebb

"any group that comes to my city to cause grief should be detained"

Eh??? Is your city in Russia??

It cannot be a US city, because all of them are under the US Constitution. Freedom of Speech, remember?

Or did you mean something unusual when you used the word grief?

I'm after the ones that tip over cars, throw rocks at police cars, cause bodily injury and such. Peaceful protesters don't bother me.