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DanL911sc 08-20-2008 03:54 PM

Do you trust your electronic voting machines?
 
From How I bought used voting machines on the Internet (an oldie but a goodie):

"The AVC Advantage can be easily manipulated to throw an election because the chips which control the vote-counting are not soldered on to the circuit board of the DRE. This means the vote-counting firmware can be removed and replace with fraudulent firmware. Under the sheet-metal panel (the "CPU cover"), I found the circuit board containing computer chips, other electronic chips, and four chips that--unlike most of the chips on the circuit board which are soldered in place--are mounted in sockets so that they can be removed and replaced. These are ROM (read-only memory) chips that hold the computer program (firmware) that operates the voting logic. These chips are not held in place by any seals. They can be removed using an ordinary screwdriver and they (or other ROM chips containing other firmware) can be replaced simply by pressing them into place. You can see the ROM chips in the picture above; they have the white labels pasted onto them, and you can see me in the process of prying one loose with a screwdriver. "

id10t 08-20-2008 04:53 PM

Check out blackboxvoting.org

Also, there is a slashdot.org posting today on how a bunch of machines have been de-certified by the states that use them...

Really fun part is the last armed revolt against the govn't was over voting issues (battle of athens, ten. 1946)

Rick Lee 08-20-2008 04:57 PM

I would think that anyone could manipulate vote counts if they were determined to do so. Trouble is how they would get enough conspirators to go along with it to make a difference AND do so unknowingly so they'd never be caught. It always amazed me that people thought FL in 2000 was rigged. Why would they have rigged it by only 537 votes, not knowing about absentee ballots not yet counted and with New Mexico being almost as close, but with their polls closing two hours later?

widebody911 08-20-2008 06:20 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1219285227.jpg

pwd72s 08-20-2008 06:34 PM

I'd trust 'em about as much as I trust Oregon's register and vote by mail system...


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