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JFK, His Brothers and His Presidency
Whether of not JFk was a Great President remains a question mark. His Presidency only lasted a 1000 days. On the negative side of the equation stands the Bay of Pigs, The Khrushchev meeting in Vienna which directly led to the Cuban Missile Crisis, his do nothing stance on Civil Rights, the assassination of Diem in South Vietnam, and his continued escalation of American involvement in Vietnam. On the positive side of the ledger was his tempered handling of the Cuban Missile crisis and the unfulfilled promise of his August 1963 speech in which he said we all have to live in this world together, as the opening of a thaw in the Cold War. However Lee Harvey cut his Presidency short. The idealization of the JFK administration as being a "Camelot" was the work of Jackie Kennedy after the fact.
Robert Kennedy until the death of his brother was an arrogant punk. To quote someone who knew him, "He was a real dog." After his brothers death Robert was able to rise again with a sense of purpose and humility tempered by the despair that he felt. However his time was cut short and we will never know what he would have been able to accomplish. Edward Kennedy as the sole surviving brother has continued the work of his brothers out of an emotional sense of duty as a personal memorialization of their memories. However Teddy has had an interrupted journey with a Bridge and has anethetized himself with alcohol, even into drunken debauchery in his boxer shorts in his old age. So what do we have here, a flawed lion?
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the point is????
I saw JFK as the last icon of true US leadership, plain and simple. His older brother may have been the best one, but the next 2...... |
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Joe Jr was a shadow of his father, Nothing orginal. JFK was the one who challenged his fathers political stance with regards to appeasing Hitler. Joe Sr and Neville Chamberlin were close friends (Joe sr was Ambassador to England). JFK as his Senior Thesis at Harvard wrote "As England Slept" which was a tome that one couldn't appease a mad dog like Hitler. JFK turned it into a best selling book. To quote someone who knew JFK, "He was quiet a unique indivdual."
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The Kennedys have an arrogance about them that they don't think they have any limitations. Americans have idolized the Kennedys thinking that going beyond your limitations is a admirable quality. However each of the brothers and even into the succeeding generations this arrogance of the rules of gravity don't apply to them amounts to foolhardy recklessness. Amost to the point of being a death wish.
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If your last name is Kennedy, as in those Kennedys, you can run for dog catcher in pretty much any municipality in the US and be pretty sure you'll get elected.
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Back when I lived in Massachusetts, Romney was running against Ted. My wife and I went over the issues, and she agreed that Romney was the better candidate.
She voted for Ted. I asked her why. She said it was tradition. The Kennedys have so many people snowed that they are something special. They are the most arrogant bunch of people ever. 2 recent ones come to mind: The one killed in a skiing accident and the one caught sleeping with the teenage baby sitter. The first one, they were playing "football" on the slopes with a bag of wine. Whoever picked up the wine bag, had to drink. Insert tree = one less Kennedy. Then the Kennedy congressman who slept with the baby sitter. He didn't even think it was wrong! Great family.
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You are right. I did forget that JFK jr. Killed himself, his wife and her sister, due to arrogance.
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JFK sucked sofa-king bad it's unreal that he is mentioned as a good PROTUS.
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What relation is William Kennedy Smith? Teddy's nephew somehow, rapist.
My buddy did his residency in Albequerque at the same time this guy was there.
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