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Lothar 10-22-2008 07:20 PM

How 'bout a World Series Thread?
 
It's top of the 8th. Phillies lead Tampa Bay 3-2.

This update is brought to you by a life-long Phillies fan. :D

m21sniper 10-22-2008 08:06 PM

LIGHTS OUT LIDGE!!!

3 wins to go! Go phils!

Lothar 10-22-2008 08:11 PM

Phillies take game 1 by the score of 3-2. One more game and the series can move to a real ball park. Baseball in a dome? Tisk, tisk.

DavidB911 10-22-2008 08:12 PM

What? The series is still going?? A couple months ago someone said the Cubs had it locked up. Then about a week or 2 ago someone said the Red Sox won it. Now you guys say its still going??:confused::D

I really hope the Phills take this. They have a great bullpen and really good offense.

m21sniper 10-22-2008 08:12 PM

Lidge is a machine. In all my 35 years of watching baseball, he is having maybe the best season of any Phillies player i can ever remember. 50+ straight saves??? LOL.....LIGHTS OUT!!!

Lothar 10-26-2008 07:36 PM

Game 4 and the Rays are getting crushed. Another Phillies pitcher has earned a win with both his arm and his bat. What a dominant performance after a thrilling Game 3!

Lothar 10-26-2008 07:40 PM

The Phillies are one win away!!! What a performance.

Pazuzu 10-26-2008 07:51 PM

Cubbies are gonna win it this year.

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m21sniper 10-27-2008 12:11 AM

Can the DROUGHT finally be over?!?!?!?!?

ONE MORE WIN TO GO!!!

GO PHILS! :D

Rich76_911s 10-27-2008 08:18 PM

So anyone else feel like the Phils got robbed tonight?

I got to admit I am pretty ticked off right now that they had to go out there and play defense in that slop. While the devil rays will get a perfect field for the 6th inning whenever the game resumes. I'd love to know the reason not to call the game after the phils hit in the 5th inning. Particularly when they weren't going to call it a game without 9 innings played anyway.

Also want to point out I would not want to have seen the Phils win without the game going to 9 innings.

m21sniper 10-28-2008 01:31 AM

The game should have been postponed/delayed the moment Jimmy Rollins had to run around the infield like a keystone cop chasing that pop up all over. The run the Rays scored in the 6th is never scored in 'baseball' conditions because Jimmy Rollins gobbles that ball up cleanly and tosses that 2 out base runner out...the same base runner that scored to tie it when they DID call it.

adrian jaye 10-28-2008 04:58 AM

how come the world series... AINT world series?

which other countries play then ?

The Gaijin 10-28-2008 05:07 AM

The best players in the world play in the US. But that is besides the point..

Why does the season go so long that they are now competing against basketball and hockey?

The World Series should have been weeks ago and played over two weekends and at an hour when children (future potential fans..) can watch.

widebody911 10-28-2008 05:56 AM

Watch baseball? No thanks! It would be more fun to pound my nuts flat with a ball peen hammer and then storyboard A Midsummer Night's Dream in my own blood on the floor.

DavidB911 10-28-2008 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrian jaye (Post 4266256)
how come the world series... AINT world series?

which other countries play then ?

the japanese winner usually wants to play mlb's winner. i dont know of any other country.

DavidB911 10-28-2008 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 4266266)
Why does the season go so long that they are now competing against basketball and hockey?

This is the leagues fault. They string out the early series' that results in these games being played so late. Also, they used to just have a world series after the regular season. Since they have 30 teams now that want to be in the playoffs and the league doesn't want to miss out on possible revenue they have 3 rounds now. 2 rounds seems like a good compromise to me, but i will stop here.

JeremyD 10-28-2008 07:18 AM

Well I have been watching and I'm going to comment on a few things -

Number one why the 8 pm starts = Two east coast teams - Baseball is short sighted here - hell even the Saturday game was scheduled for 8:00 (which didn't even start till 10:00) in 10 years when baseball wonders where all their fans went because they didn't start at a reasonable time where the kids could watch and become fans.

Number two - The umpires - Good god - do they need to bring instant replay? Missed calls on both sides - if you are going to show the strike zone graph - then follow it. They'd be better off not showing it because all it has done is highlight the inconsistency of the umps in calling strikes. MLB uses it to grade the umps? Give em an F

Number three - the season is too damn long. There's a chance of snow tonight - 40 degrees and raining is not ideal for baseball. My hands were stinging when the players were batting in that crap. diong! Shorten the season - World series should end the beginning of October - end of story.

Number four - baseball should be played outside - yep - they are positioning for a new baseball stadium in Tampa Bay - yep - an outside stadium - STUPIDEST thing I have heard in years - if you don't think it's stupid - and you insist on OUTSIDE baseball - I'd be glad to get you tickets to one of the first Tampa Bay Bucs games of the season. After you bake and I do mean BAKE in the stadium for two hours we can revisit the question. In August here it's even hotter - and it rains EVERY afternoon.

Last comment - the games last night. What a friggin sham - it probably should never been started. I really think MLB was grateful the game was tied so they could postpone it. They didn't want to call the game (which would have ended the world series with the Phillies ahead). The phillies have played better ball. The Rays (not devil rays, just Rays) are a young team - and they have nutted up during the WS - not the same team that won the ALCS. If they get back to being the team that they were and start swing their bats - They will give them a run for their money. From a last to first - and with the lowest payroll in history they have exceed all expectations by just being in the world series.

adrian jaye 10-28-2008 07:44 AM

therefore its not world series then ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidB911 (Post 4266383)
the japanese winner usually wants to play mlb's winner. i dont know of any other country.


adrian jaye 10-28-2008 07:46 AM

it is the point,
it's not a world series because no other teams in the world play it !

are you saying that players from "all over the world" come to play in the world series ????? :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 4266266)
The best players in the world play in the US. But that is besides the point..


gassy 10-28-2008 08:23 AM

Although the "Fall Classic" as we know it didn't begin until 1903, Major League Baseball had several versions of a post-season championship series before that. In 1884, the Providence Grays of the National League outplayed the New York Metropolitan Club of the American Association in a three game series for what was originally called "The Championship of the United States." Several newspapers penned the Grays as "World Champions" and the new title stuck.

m21sniper 10-28-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidB911 (Post 4266383)
the japanese winner usually wants to play mlb's winner. i dont know of any other country.

You guys never heard of Canada then? Last i checked both Toronto and Montreal are not in the US.

The fact is that MLB is heavily populated by natives of various South and Central American countries. And most of the very best Japanese players also come to the US. So pretty much all the best ball players in the world play in MLB, so it really IS a world series.

Baseball is definitely an international sport. The title is appropriate.

That game should have been suspended after the 4th Inning, and the score should be 2-1 Phils, in the top of the 5th when the game is resumed.

thekidd 10-28-2008 11:04 AM

Good job gassy, that is how it started. Living in philly as an Atlanta fan, I think the game should have been played out, or ended earlier/ or never been played. You are going to have a deciding game be post-poned till the next day (now it is snowing here in PA and wontr be plated foe 48 hours after the first pitch.) Now, we have a 2 and a half inning, possible final game, where any pitcher can come in and pitch. Thats not basebal to me. Phils have 3 at bats left, and the Rays 2 6out to 9 out, fair? I dont think so. Price for 3 innings, and either Hamels or Madsen for 1 inning, then Ligde to close. Its just not right. Its like saying the Flyers are in the Cup against Edmonton? and the ice melts, they stop the game and wait till the ice freezes up. They drop the puck in the Flyers zone, Edm. shoots and scores in the 4th overtime of the final game. F-ed up.

JeremyD 10-28-2008 11:18 AM

I agree the kidd - messed up

They ought to call it a draw - and play 9 innings on Wednesday night -

Per MLB

"Game 5 of the 2008 World Series will not resume tonight due to inclement weather. Game 5 is now tentatively scheduled to resume on Wednesday evening at 8:37 p.m. (ET), weather permittin"

Pazuzu 10-28-2008 11:21 AM

So...rain is the new Steve Bartman?

Rich76_911s 10-28-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thekidd (Post 4267055)
Good job gassy, that is how it started. Living in philly as an Atlanta fan, I think the game should have been played out, or ended earlier/ or never been played. You are going to have a deciding game be post-poned till the next day (now it is snowing here in PA and wontr be plated foe 48 hours after the first pitch.) Now, we have a 2 and a half inning, possible final game, where any pitcher can come in and pitch. Thats not basebal to me. Phils have 3 at bats left, and the Rays 2 6out to 9 out, fair? I dont think so. Price for 3 innings, and either Hamels or Madsen for 1 inning, then Ligde to close. Its just not right. Its like saying the Flyers are in the Cup against Edmonton? and the ice melts, they stop the game and wait till the ice freezes up. They drop the puck in the Flyers zone, Edm. shoots and scores in the 4th overtime of the final game. F-ed up.

First of all the rays still have 9 outs to go. The innings being played are 1/2 of the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th. So the phils have 12 outs, while the rays have 9.

If you want to go to the beginning of the 6th and lose the run, and get your 3 outs fine by me. I'd bet the Rays would rather keep the run than have to start the 6th inning over again. The run wasn't even earned in the first part. Rollins makes that play on Upton 99.5% of the time in decent weather.

The Phillies had to make 18 outs in terrible weather, while the Rays only had to make 15. Hamels had to pitch an additional 3 outs, after waiting 10+ minutes for the field to get taken care of.

Hamels will not be able to pitch in the second edition of this game, which NO QUESTION plays into the favor of the Rays.

For the Rays this is a winning proposition almost any way you cut it. True they have 3 less outs in this 2.5 inning game, BUT they had 3 more when it was advantaguous to the offense to have 3 more outs.

The only advantage that I can see for the Phils is that with the games getting stretched out it gives Hamels a better chance of getting to pitch in a game 7.

DavidB911 10-28-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4266898)
You guys never heard of Canada then? Last i checked both Toronto and Montreal are not in the US.

um, Toronto is the only candian team. the montreal team is in washington now.

DavidB911 10-28-2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4267095)
So...rain is the new Steve Bartman?

i think all REAL baseball fans have forgotten who he is.;)

Pazuzu 10-28-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidB911 (Post 4267300)
i think all REAL baseball fans have forgotten who he is.;)

I'm going to hunt you down and throw snowballs with rocks in them at you.

Macroni 10-28-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich76_911s (Post 4267229)
The only advantage that I can see for the Phils is that with the games getting stretched out it gives Hamels a better chance of getting to pitch in a game 7.

You meant to say if there is a game 7.

thekidd 10-28-2008 01:28 PM

Whocares if J-Roll would of made that play. It didnt even come come close to catching it the pocket of his glove, it hit him in the hinge of his glove. Both teamshad to play in the rain, yeah, have some advantage to the Rays, but it super tough to play in the D or bat in the rain. Could have called the game if played the extra half inning and the Phills won, but there would have been an * next to the series. Kinda like *Barry Bonds* But it does give the Series some extra excitment. If Phils loose the rest of game 5, Its a whole new series.

Rich76_911s 10-28-2008 02:34 PM

After 4 1/2 innings the game becomes an official game if the home team is winning or after the completion of the 5th inning if the away team is winning. So it was an official game after the 4 1/2 innings.

The commissioner ensued as much that the game would have been "suspended" had they called it in the 5th or not. NO *, whether they called it after the 5th or made the Phillies play defense in the 6th the game was going to continue at a later time.

I for one care if Rollins would have made that play, it led to a run that was UN-EARNED. If the Rays go on to win the series there ought to be an *. In a series where 2 runs or less has seperated winner from loser in all but 1 game I'd have to say that 1 run is pretty important.

m21sniper 10-29-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidB911 (Post 4267296)
um, Toronto is the only candian team. the montreal team is in washington now.

I believe my point was that for many decades there were 2 Canadian teams.

m21sniper 10-29-2008 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thekidd (Post 4267445)
Whocares if J-Roll would of made that play.

Everyone in Philadelphia cares.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thekidd (Post 4267445)
Both teams had to play in the rain, yeah, have some advantage to the Rays

Enough said. Even the Devil Rays players were saying afterward it should've been stopped in the 4th Inning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thekidd (Post 4267445)
Could have called the game if played the extra half inning and the Phills won, but there would have been an * next to the series. Kinda like *Barry Bonds* But it does give the Series some extra excitment. If Phils loose the rest of game 5, Its a whole new series.

This series is over, regardless of what happens in this TOTAL JOKE of a Game 5.

The Devil Rays are nowhere near in the Phillies league. Even with the Phils bats totally struggling, the Rays cannot compete with the Phils pitching. In the one game where the Phils had a good offensive night, it was a total blowout.

Of course, the best part about the Phillies is that they're at the beginning of their window...this is a very young team. Multiple world series titles could possibly follow this one.

If the phillies get a 1 run lead in this 1/3 of a game, it's over. Lidge will make sure of that.

JavaBrewer 10-29-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4269933)
The Devil Rays are nowhere near in the Phillies league. Even with the Phils bats totally struggling, the Rays cannot compete with the Phils pitching.

Dude...save the fan boy dreams for your buddies in the corner bar. Nobody outside of Philly thinks your team is very good. LOL. The Phillies played over their heads in this WS and the Rays (especially their bats) never showed up.

m21sniper 10-29-2008 07:31 PM

The Phillies have back to back NL MVP's, the best young power hitter in the NL, the best power hitting 2nd baseman in the NL, one of the best young #1 aces in the majors, the best bullpen in the NL, and the best closer in the game. The reason the Rays "bats didn't show up" is because the Phillies pitching shut them the hell down. (To the Rays credit, they also had fantastic pitching as well, just not good enough to muzzle the Phils high octane lineup) The team that took down the "mighty" Boston Red Sox got dismantled by the Phils in 5 games, just like every team the Phils faced in the post season. No one even managed to force a long series with this team in the post season.

When leading after 8 innings the Phillies are 89-0 this season (Citation: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnQM5UWy8YITI7T7VxSxuxy4u7YF?slug=ap-worldseries-phillies&prov=ap&type=lgns). So if you don't think they're very good, you just don't know what good baseball teams look like.

And the Phillies, who you don't think are very good, are WORLD CHAMPIONS.

WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!

Hahahaha...Suck on that. :D

Dottore 10-29-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 4266356)
Watch baseball? No thanks! It would be more fun to pound my nuts flat with a ball peen hammer and then storyboard A Midsummer Night's Dream in my own blood on the floor.


Credit where credit is due: that's a very fine line.

Tobra 10-29-2008 07:37 PM

I used to watch baseball, then they cancelled the Series due to greed, sort of lost interest.

Had sort of a messed up finish to it this year, maybe God hates baseball too, or is itjust global warming

trekkor 10-29-2008 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4270319)

Hahahaha...Suck on that. :D


I most certainly will not! :mad:


KT

JavaBrewer 10-29-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4270319)
And the Phillies, who you don't think are very good, are WORLD CHAMPIONS.

WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!

Hahahaha...Suck on that. :D

Enjoy the WS win. The Phillies ARE the 2008 Champions and they are still are a second rate team in my book.

I'll keep sucking on my Bass Ale thanks ;)

Rich76_911s 10-30-2008 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmoolenaar (Post 4270195)
The Phillies played over their heads in this WS and the Rays (especially their bats) never showed up.

I'd agree that the Rays underperformed in the field and at the plate, but I also don't think except for a Ruiz and Moyer that the Phillies really played over their heads. Certainly the Phillies offense never quite got going up to its level, particularly the top of the order. Shoot if you watched any of the games on Fox they took pleasure in highliting how many times the Phillies left runners stranded in scoring position.

I'm not quite as confident about the world domination M21 is talking about, but I also think it is a low blow to call them a second rate team. I actually really enjoy seeing both clubs in the series. They both seem to be focused on the TEAM and not on the overly swollen heads of super-stars. If a first rate team to you is the Red Soxs or the Yankees then you can have them. I'll take watching second rate teams.

I'm just really happy to see a Championship in Philadelphia for the first time that I can remember. The last in 1983 was the sixers and basketball is the one sport I absolutely don't follow, plus I was only 5 at the time. It is fun to see and I am happy for all the players and Charlie Manuel. Charlie got blasted pretty hard by a donkey of a talk radio host here for years (howard eskin), and I am glad Chalrie got the last laugh.


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